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A perfect example of where people are at with their kids is this. I can't tell you how many stories I hear at work of people having birthday parties for their kids. Not just kids though. I am talking about 1 year old babies! They rent out parks, and other places to throw elaborate parties. One lady even took 2 days off work that wasn't scheduled either because she had to "prepare" for the party. Talk about selfish. Can anyone with children please explain this to me? I find the whole thing to be rather disgusting. :lol
 
LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Michael Jackson's mother and his three children receive an allowance totaling more than $86,000 a month, according to court documents released Thursday.

LOL! Becuase three children need $86,000 a month. :rolleyes:
 
LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Michael Jackson's mother and his three children receive an allowance totaling more than $86,000 a month, according to court documents released Thursday.

LOL! Becuase three children need $86,000 a month. :rolleyes:

Yeah man .......... do you know how ^^^^ing expensive cereal has become??? :mad:
 
LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Michael Jackson's mother and his three children receive an allowance totaling more than $86,000 a month, according to court documents released Thursday.

LOL! Becuase three children need $86,000 a month. :rolleyes:

An allowance from whom? I thought MJ was in debt?
 
An allowance from whom? I thought MJ was in debt?

I think they made a much larger thing out of his debt than was really accurate. He had a lot of debt...but twice as much asset. And the value of the assets will do nothing but grow.

Edit - It seems to me that 86,000 a month is a pittance compared to his estate. MUCH more than the kids need, but a pittance compared to the value of his estate nonetheless.
 
So, this is a Michael Jackson discussion thread, now? :confused:

I am still trying to figure out the significance of a childs 1st birthday. Well not the significance but the elaborate parties that the kid will A not care about and B won't remember.
 
I'm with you. But kids would also prefer to be naked all day, and yet parents put clothes on them. Babies don't need clothes unless it's cold, but people like my sister will by a $40 pair of shoes for a 1-year-old. Parents can be pretty dumb.

And what about those people who buy clothes for their dogs! If my dogs didn't have sweaters, I would say really nasty things about these people.
 
I am still trying to figure out the significance of a childs 1st birthday. Well not the significance but the elaborate parties that the kid will A not care about and B won't remember.

Status? :dunno

They get a chance to show all the other parents how special (expensive) their kid is. Whoever loves their baby the most (wastes the most money) wins.
 
As I think about it, "they" say it is good for babies to experience social situations. Maybe these kinds of things are good for parents who don't send their children to daycare, and who don't have other family members or friends with small children for the babies to interact with. :huh
 
Just seems kind of counter-intuitive. How many people do you know that can't function in society because their first birthday was boring?
 
I'm sure it is a matter of degree, but developmentally, the stuff that happens in the early years follow you through your life in fundamentally important ways. Some kids may be born more introverted or extroverted than others, but the "nurture" element has to play a strong role.

1 year old? I don't know. The person who told me this ran a child care center and had a Master's degree in early childhood development, so I will assume that this is true. But certainly I would expect social involvement in the 2-3 year range would be really important.
 
LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Michael Jackson's mother and his three children receive an allowance totaling more than $86,000 a month, according to court documents released Thursday.

LOL! Becuase three children need $86,000 a month. :rolleyes:

I'm beginning to think you have a fixation with MJ, man...
:lol:lol

I'm sure it is a matter of degree, but developmentally, the stuff that happens in the early years follow you through your life in fundamentally important ways. Some kids may be born more introverted or extroverted than others, but the "nurture" element has to play a strong role.

1 year old? I don't know. The person who told me this ran a child care center and had a Master's degree in early childhood development, so I will assume that this is true. But certainly I would expect social involvement in the 2-3 year range would be really important.

I honestly can't remember anything clearly before I was 4-5 years old,
and just bits and pieces...
 
I would expect social involvement in the 2-3 year range would be really important.

It is important, but I think cognitive skills are infinitely more important. To the extent that social interaction can have a detrimental effect on that, I think it's useless at best.

Kids have fun playing together. I can see it as a boon in the sense that happiness is critical at an early age. I don't see that getting it through social interaction is integral though.
 
As a mother who just threw a party for her 1-year-old, I can comment....

1. Making it through the first year is an amazing feat. I really can't expect anyone who doesn't have children to understand, but that first year of being a parent is THE HARDEST THING YOU HAVE EVER DONE OR EVER WILL DO (if you are doing it right). And it's not very easy on the kid either.

2. The fact is (most) people love babies and embrace any excuse to celebrate them. More people (adults) came to his birthday party than to my own birthday party... and that makes me happy because I want him to grow up surrounded by friends and family!

3. I wanted an excuse to have a party. After 1 year of being home everyday mothering a child, I needed some fun and social interaction for myself!

That being said, our 1-year-birthday party was a simple backyard barbecue with mostly adults in attendance, drinking margaritas and conversing. If they happened to have kids, they brought them, and I had some toys and games outside for them. And balloons. Kids love balloons, sidewalk chalk, and balls. Anything more is overkill. I also do not really understand the insane structured and 'kid-oriented' birthday parties for 1-year-olds.

Also, social interaction is VERY VERY VERY important for kids 0-3 years old. Second only to good nutrition. It's the time when the brain is doing the most. And the only way they learn is through observation and interaction. If they are at home all day with the same person, day in and day out, they aren't gonna learn much. It's not like you can teach them how to add and subtract or discuss philosophy yet. Heck, they don't even really 'play' with toys yet at age 1 - they study them and sometimes try to figure out how they work, but mostly they just want to chew on them.

But they learn TONS when watching social interactions. Watching their parents say please, thank you, hello, goodbye, and conversing with other people is much more beneficial than any 'baby einstein' product.

And they learn best from watching their peers. It's fact. I can spend all day trying to get my son to point to something in a book or interact with a toy in a certain way with no results, but as soon as he watches his friend do it, he's an expert. It's even better if the peer is a little bit older and more advanced - that's why second children hit their milestones and start speaking earlier than first children (in general)... they have someone more their size to interact with and learn from.

It also teaches them how to deal with life when things don't always go the way they want them to. If they spend too much time with only 1 or 2 people, they get "set in their ways"....This is the way mommy does it, so this is the way it must be done ALL THE TIME, etc. That's why kids are bratty these days - way too much "mommy time"! If they spend time with other people, they learn early in life that there are many ways of doing things, so they become less inclined to throw hissy fits if something is 'different'.

All of these reasons are why quality daycare and preschool are very important, IF you can afford them. (unfortunately our family cannot, so I try to get my son the interaction he needs in different ways - swimming lessons, visits to zoos, parks, malls, the Sideshow office, Comic-Con, going to parties, etc)

Not only that, kids who aren't placed in social situations and introduced to a plethora of new experiences during those early formative years tend to have much higher instances of depression, anxiety, weight issues and more.

So, yes, social interaction is ESSENTIAL for a developing 1-year-old! :)
 
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