It means his initial victory stands. They were only able to kill that version of Thanos after the damage was already done. In addition, their plan to undo that damage did not bring back original Loki, Heimdale (sp?), Vision or original Gamora - and it came at the (new) cost of Black Widow and Tony Stark's lives. I think this addresses past complaints that the MCU had no stakes.
Exactly! IW Thanos will always represent a conflict and a villain that they lost to. And as we've said even bringing back the dusted souls wouldn't undo the catastrophic repercussions of that many people disappearing for that length of time.
EG Thanos didnt have the luxury of fighting the Trinity separately and had none of the Stones so I love that they found an excuse to introduce a meaner more a-hole version of himself, effectively a brand new villain altogether, who posed even *more* of a threat who actually doubled (literally) the stakes of the previous version.
Truly ingenious writing as it gives original Thanos lasting victory while also making the heroes even more badass by showing them defeat Thanos at his most deadly and ruthless.
Well if the Russo's came up with a better idea then Time travel like THanos sending the stones different parts of the Universe and its a fight to get them all and then Thanos finds out the plan and attempts to stop them... Thanos goes and gets what is left of his army and we get the same ending...
Difference is this Thanos knows the feeling of victory, has fought IM, Spidey, GOTG, Dr. Strange and his daughter, he knows he killed his one daughter and his other daughter wants to kill him... Its the villain we came to know over the course of a two and a half our movie..
Instead we just got another villain.. Not nearly as interesting and lacks much of the emotional weight it could have carried.. His speech about a gift of killing off only half would be much more meaningful coming from the original Thanos rather then from snidely whiplash.
I find ROTK to be a better comparison. Nothing in EG remotely approaches the level of halfassedness and toy shelf pandering (to the detriment of the story) as ROTJ.
Hmmmm I might agree had EG been nearly as epic... Plus ROTK is a million times better then TTT... SO its hard to call EG the ROTK to IW, EST... I would say Jedi is a better comparison for me because the quality of IW is IMO way better then EG.
That's too bad that EG is what it is for you if for no other reason that now you've got to hold out that Marvel Phase Four (ick) delivers for you.
I can't tell you how liberating it is to have EG end on a home run. So nice to have that finality. Not just for the MCU but I don't know that I see any film matching that experience going forward. SW and EG may very well be the alpha and omega of popcorn entertainment forever more.
Hopefully you get your own EG one day.
I think I did with ROTK.. It was perfect at the time.. It hit every beat that I needed it too. I mean it was expected but still it was perfect.. Having said that I don't think ROTK has aged as well.. Its still great but a bit corny and goofy at times.
EG has not and will not ruin all that came before. Its not so bad that I cant watch it..
I still say that obviously had they fumbled Cap in EG the way they did in A1 you would see all the issues to be had in this film.. But they didn't and thus it is a homerun for you and as I stated before.. I don't blame you at all.
Had it just done a bit better with Hulk would I forgive all the other issues.. Maybe.... If the film had like two great Hulk moments at the end of the film and not felt like a true slap in the face to the character and fans.. Then yeah.. I would be much more forgiving I believe..
But it was an insult how he was completely ignored and as others had said.. He no longer is incredible... Even if he was full beast mode.. Nothing incredible about this Hulk at all anymore.
So the insult stings and puts a cloud over the rest of the film for sure.... So the issues that I would typically ignore stick out like a sore thumb..
But it is what it is... Its not like its going to change... And I am happy for those that love the film...
I expect nothing out of phase 4 and really was not excited about any of the announcements at comic con other then some of the TV shows.. Maybe Dr. Strange if it really does tackle the Multiverse.
