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In the DVD featurette, GL tells the art crew to think of the most terrifying thing ever, they came up with a "clown." Never heard the circuit inspiration one before, but makes sense.

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[jedibear]

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love this figure

 

[chemicals]

But... so cool he ended up "murdered" anyway?

How is not going there and getting murdered way cooler if the result is exactly the same (saves the day but dies doing it) and if he's actually there he also takes on all that risk. That's inspiration for future rebels, whereas holo-phoning it in feels less so. Maybe it's clever what he does, but it really doesn't feel brave - and heroes certainly need both but bravery is the more valued attribute. And actually showing up to the fight also gets hero points.

I guess it hinges on this very unclear/poorly explained idea of "you can die doing the holo-prjection thing" - but it's pretty unclear and you don't really sense the risk of it before and during the process.

And even as a clever bit it just feels a bit virtual reality Madden NFL vs actually running that yard line if you know what I mean. Like it was a cool goal and all but he was never really even there to begin with, so where's the "aspirational" aspect for the kid watching it?

So did you want him to get chopped in half by Kylo or go out peacefully looking into the binary sunset?


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[chemicals]

The wider question I had is why Luke had to "go out" at all. Hamill was great - as I've said before, partnered with a young lead, Luke could have been a wizened, badass co-lead for a new trilogy instead of a one film mentor-must-die guy. I would love to have seen an older, warrior-wizard Luke's (so different to OT Luke) journey through the SW universe. Oh well, what's done is done - suck it up.

Cause they’re not the main characters anymore lol. The trilogy is about Rey, Kylo, Finn and Poe. Luke is a mentor like Obi Wan- That’s the point lol. Now he’s a force ghost and more powerful that you can possibly imagine.

Yes he’s different, he grew as a character and person. It’s been 30 years lol, I guess you just wanted him to randomly go super sayian god mode and lift AchTo out of the ground and fling it at Kylo like a frisbee

 

[BagginsOfBagEnd]

Great photo jedibear

 

[TaliBane]

So did you want him to get chopped in half by Kylo or go out peacefully looking into the binary sunset?

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Neither - he didn't have to die.

And you seem to assume that any scenario where Luke actually traveled to Crait had to play out exactly as it did in TLJ. It obvioulsy wouldn't - and in fact that set-up of him walking out to the ATATs, facing Kylo etc was obviously set-up to pay off the "he's not actually there" joke, which is played as kind of a gag and obviously intended to subvert (and yes, kind of mock) our view of Luke as this invincible hero savior.

And I noticed no-one ever seems to touch on my comments about the total lack of rules that govern the whole projection idea (ie if he didn't stop to chat, he would have saved time and therefore not died by doing the projection, why he doesn't tell Leia his plan, etc. etc.)

Major logic gaps aside, the issue is that we use these rules to assess Luke's choice and behavior - so how can we even judge what he did on Crait when it's totally unclear what kind of risk he was taking by doing the projection?

Cause they’re not the main characters anymore lol. The trilogy is about Rey, Kylo, Finn and Poe. Luke is a mentor like Obi Wan- That’s the point lol. Now he’s a force ghost and more powerful that you can possibly imagine.

Yes he’s different, he grew as a character and person. It’s been 30 years lol, I guess you just wanted him to randomly go super sayian god mode and lift AchTo out of the ground and fling it at Kylo like a frisbee

The point is, that didn't have to be the case.

And I never understand these responses where people say "oh, you wanted lightning bolts to come out of Luke eyes, he lifts a little finger and all the ATATs collapse and he has four lightsabers twirling - you wanted Luke to be this God." No, I just wanted him to actually show up, do something brave and clever. With emphasis on the showing up.

And you "lol" that they aren't main characters anymore? I would guarantee that most SW fans would rather have seen a ST with a badass, wizened-warrior old Luke (such a different vibe to OT Luke) as co-lead teamed with a strong young lead - for all three films - mixed with Han as an active more major character throughout (yes, maybe with his and Leia's son in the mix as counterpoint to Luke's potential padawan.) As I stated earlier, a "Logan" type film like this, directed by a Fincher or a Nolan (and yes, they would have done it,) would have been great - and a true continuation of the OT.

 

[SilverStar17]

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love this figure

Excellent shot.

 

[jedibear]

Thanks everyone! Really digging this figure...HT did a phenomenal job here...

 

[The Entity]

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And you "lol" that they aren't main characters anymore? I would guarantee that most SW fans would rather have seen a ST with a badass, wizened-warrior old Luke (such a different vibe to OT Luke) as co-lead teamed with a strong young lead - for all three films - mixed with Han as an active more major character throughout (yes, maybe with his and Leia's son in the mix as counterpoint to Luke's potential padawan.) As I stated earlier, a "Logan" type film like this, directed by a Fincher or a Nolan (and yes, they would have done it,) would have been great - and a true continuation of the OT.

I totally agree with this. I understand this ST is about new characters but the way they have handled these legendary characters is just a waste IMO. Han got killed off rightaway, effectively eliminating the possibility of seeing Han, Luke and Leia together again. And that is something that I'd love to have seen even if it was a short moment at the end of TFA. Like the celebration at the end of ROTJ.

Then in TLJ they could've gone on separate journeys with the new characters that may or may not have lead to their meaningful deaths.

 

[Sithblade]

Cause they’re not the main characters anymore lol. The trilogy is about Rey, Kylo, Finn and Poe. Luke is a mentor like Obi Wan- That’s the point lol. Now he’s a force ghost and more powerful that you can possibly imagine.

Yes he’s different, he grew as a character and person. It’s been 30 years lol, I guess you just wanted him to randomly go super sayian god mode and lift AchTo out of the ground and fling it at Kylo like a frisbee

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Which is funny because I've never read or heard anyone say they wanted a "Superman" Luke but there was a huge range of options between what we actually had and "Superman".

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[TaliBane]

Thanks everyone! Really digging this figure...HT did a phenomenal job here...

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I'm sticking to my guns with getting Crait Luke over this one, but you're not making it easy.

I do think if they don't tweak the Crait sculpt I still might flip over to this Luke - not sure yet. Even though as some have said the outfit is a bit LOTR-looking, I do like the "Mythos Luke" vibe to this one, but the Crait one feels more like "Luke 30 years after ROTJ" that would pair really well with ROTJ Luke with the black outfits.

The lighting and colors in this pic looks like a comic book piece of artwork.

 

[jedibear]

Here's a couple shots in natural light...

 

[LinktheJedi]

 

[Rudimus]

Nice photos guys, really like those outdoor shots! My contribution photo & idea. I don't really trust the guy that didn't have Leia & Chewie hug in episode VII after Han died.

 

[pixletwin]

Great group shot! I love seeing all the classic characters together... and in the Tantive IV corridor, no less!

 

[BagginsOfBagEnd]

Some great pics in this thread!

 

[LinktheJedi]

 

[Rudimus]

Great group shot! I love seeing all the classic characters together... and in the Tantive IV corridor, no less!

Thanks pixletwin! Just missing Lando to recreate the end of ROTJ, sans Ewoks & Wedge haha.

 

[chemicals]

Neither - he didn't have to die.

And you seem to assume that any scenario where Luke actually traveled to Crait had to play out exactly as it did in TLJ. It obvioulsy wouldn't - and in fact that set-up of him walking out to the ATATs, facing Kylo etc was obviously set-up to pay off the "he's not actually there" joke, which is played as kind of a gag and obviously intended to subvert (and yes, kind of mock) our view of Luke as this invincible hero savior.

And I noticed no-one ever seems to touch on my comments about the total lack of rules that govern the whole projection idea (ie if he didn't stop to chat, he would have saved time and therefore not died by doing the projection, why he doesn't tell Leia his plan, etc. etc.)

Major logic gaps aside, the issue is that we use these rules to assess Luke's choice and behavior - so how can we even judge what he did on Crait when it's totally unclear what kind of risk he was taking by doing the projection?



The point is, that didn't have to be the case.

And I never understand these responses where people say "oh, you wanted lightning bolts to come out of Luke eyes, he lifts a little finger and all the ATATs collapse and he has four lightsabers twirling - you wanted Luke to be this God." No, I just wanted him to actually show up, do something brave and clever. With emphasis on the showing up.

And you "lol" that they aren't main characters anymore? I would guarantee that most SW fans would rather have seen a ST with a badass, wizened-warrior old Luke (such a different vibe to OT Luke) as co-lead teamed with a strong young lead - for all three films - mixed with Han as an active more major character throughout (yes, maybe with his and Leia's son in the mix as counterpoint to Luke's potential padawan.) As I stated earlier, a "Logan" type film like this, directed by a Fincher or a Nolan (and yes, they would have done it,) would have been great - and a true continuation of the OT.

What? Leia clearly notices when, they both give a look to each other. Telling her would ruin the surprise to the audience.

I mean projecting himself across the galaxy with his mind isn’t badass enough for you? Seriously? What did you want him to do flip around cgi on top of the walkers and take them out? Maybe he didn’t wanna yet vaporised. Seriously, I don’t get how the most amazing Force power we’ve ever seen isn’t badass lol. Luke threw down his saber in ROTJ, this isn’t that far off from that. He tried to resolve the issue without violence, same way with this. Going there physically would have solved nothing. Also how did you expect him to get there? His x wing that was underwater for years and scraped for parts across the island?

Lol, how is the most badass Force power ever a “joke” lmao
How on Earth was that a joke? He outplayed Kylo and resolved conflicts peacefully just like he would in the OT. It’s not that hard to understand.

“which is played as kind of a gag and obviously intended to subvert (and yes, kind of mock) our view of Luke as this invincible hero savior.” Okay this is so damn out of touch I cant even begin. How was a badass Force projection mocking him LOLL. Cause he didn’t jump around like crazy with his lightsaber? How would that have made sense? It’s a twist you didn’t appreciate cause you already had it in your mind for something else. It literally turned him into a legend across the galaxy, it literally made him invincible but in a realistic way. And now he’s more powerful than you can possibly imagine. Obi Wan didn’t have to die either but he did. If the prequels came first and then he died in the first episode of a sequel, everyone would have moaned about it. Now they’re both back with the force.


Yeah this is so mocking Luke.

If Obi Wan did the same thing in ANH I guarantee you would have loved it.

Finding a peaceful conclusion and apologising to Ben for his mistakes is way more OT Luke than anything before. It’s been 30 years, people evolve and change. He had to deal with the dark side just like Yoda said in the OT. That he would have to deal with it his whole life.

At the end of the day, these are films aimed for children. Nitpicking every little tiny thing does nothing to help anyone. You’re just making up things to be mad over now.

Luke is not the main character this time. He plays an Obi Wan character passing the torch, that’s exactly what he did. You say you don’t want superman Luke but that’s exactly what you seem to keep describing. He’s not the lead he’s a supporting mentor character- dealing with the guilt of what happened with Ben. Dealing with failure. It’s spelled out in the movie plainly.

But the real question is, if you hate it so much then why are you here on the thread for the figure? Why spend money on something you seemingly hate.

 

[TaliBane]

Welp, you responded at length, so...

What? Leia clearly notices when, they both give a look to each other. Telling her would ruin the surprise to the audience.

You are confusing your inferences with what's actually onscreen. The fact Leia OBVIOUSLY doesn't know is proven by the fact she doesn't pass this on to the Resistance group (who simply stands gawking at Luke when they would have been fleeing had Leia told them.) Do you understand this?

And I'm not saying we should see him tell her - I'm saying he should have shown up and immediately said "I have something to tell you..." then cut out.

I mean projecting himself across the galaxy with his mind isn’t badass enough for you? Seriously? What did you want him to do flip around cgi on top of the walkers and take them out? Maybe he didn’t wanna yet vaporised.

Why do you keep saying this? I already said:

And I never understand these responses where people say "oh, you wanted lightning bolts to come out of Luke eyes, he lifts a little finger and all the ATATs collapse and he has four lightsabers twirling - you wanted Luke to be this God." No, I just wanted him to actually show up, do something brave and clever. With emphasis on the showing up.

Seriously, I don’t get how the most amazing Force power we’ve ever seen isn’t badass lol.

Because it occurs in a confusing context so we can't judge if it's "badass" - or not. As I mentioned, it's totally unclear what risk Luke is actually taking by doing it, so whether it's badass or stupidity is unclear. Again, if every second he's doing it is killing him, why does he sit and chat?

Luke threw down his saber in ROTJ, this isn’t that far off from that. He tried to resolve the issue without violence, same way with this.

He threw down his saber because he didn't want to kill his father. You see it as a generic act of "non-violence"? You don't see a difference?

Going there physically would have solved nothing. Also how did you expect him to get there? His x wing that was underwater for years and scraped for parts across the island?

How do you know that? You can't imagine any scenario where Luke actually goes there and pulls off a similar result? That's a bit of a failure of imagination, right?

And as has been discussed ad-nauseum, the shot of the X-Wing underwater is not clearly wrecked as it was in the pre-pro artwork, so was INTENDED to be unclear whether it was functional or not.

And if he DIES by doing the force projection idea anyway, aren't you at least open to the idea he could have showed up, achieved a similar outcome and LIVED?

Lol, how is the most badass Force power ever a “joke” lmao
How on Earth was that a joke? He outplayed Kylo and resolved conflicts peacefully just like he would in the OT. It’s not that hard to understand.

Both the scene where he's OVER-blasted by the ATATs (as in, a barrage that would have blown up the Death Star directed at one man) and the "dust off the shoulder" thing was indeed played as a joke. Did you not lmao like everyone else in the theater did?

“which is played as kind of a gag and obviously intended to subvert (and yes, kind of mock) our view of Luke as this invincible hero savior.” Okay this is so damn out of touch I cant even begin. How was a badass Force projection mocking him LOLL.

Most fans expected Luke to somehow show up and "save the day" - the whole idea that he achieves the same result sitting in his La-Z-Boy back on Ach-To is intended to subvert our expectations and mock our desire to see "the hero" show up and "be heroic."

Cause he didn’t jump around like crazy with his lightsaber? How would that have made sense?

Stop it. You're back with the lightning bolts coming out of eyes/sabers twirling thing again.

It’s a twist you didn’t appreciate cause you already had it in your mind for something else.

It's a twist I didn't appreciate because it is totally unclear in its rules (thereby making his act impossible to judge) and because it upends a lot of the OT where Ben/Vader/Yoda could-should have used the same power.

It literally turned him into a legend across the galaxy, it literally made him invincible but in a realistic way. And now he’s more powerful than you can possibly imagine. Obi Wan didn’t have to die either but he did. If Obi Wan did the same thing in ANH I guarantee you would have loved it.

He doesn't show up but STILL dies - I think that kind of undoes the "cleverness" kudos. And legendary is reserved for people who actually show up in my book - maybe I'm too old school.

And... with the Obi Wan thing you're now you're saying that Luke deliberately committed suicide by doing this?

Finding a peaceful conclusion and apologising to Ben for his mistakes is way more OT Luke than anything before. It’s been 30 years, people evolve and change. He had to deal with the dark side just like Yoda said in the OT. That he would have to deal with it his whole life.

Peaceful conclusion? You mean letting the guy who murdered Han walk and leaving the might of the FO intact so they can pursue the Resistance as soon as Luke's died?

At the end of the day, these are films aimed for children. Nitpicking every little tiny thing does nothing to help anyone. You’re just making up things to be mad over now.

People keep saying that (in trying to defend bad SW films) but the audience stats don't support this falsehood.

Luke is not the main character this time. He plays an Obi Wan character passing the torch, that’s exactly what he did. You say you don’t want superman Luke but that’s exactly what you seem to keep describing. He’s not the lead he’s a supporting mentor character- dealing with the guilt of what happened with Ben. Dealing with failure. It’s spelled out in the movie plainly.

I 100% understand that. But it did not at all have to be that way.

And no, for the last ****ing time(dude - ,) I wanted a very much human, badass wizard-warrior Luke in all three films as a co-lead with a younger lead. Can you not envision that?

I get it - yes, they made him the mentor so he had to die. To me that was throwing away/wasting the greatest asset SW has.

But the real question is, if you hate it so much then why are you here on the thread for the figure? Why spend money on something you seemingly hate.

As I have stated... slap) I'm a Luke fan and want a 30-years-post-ROTJ Luke and it's either this figure or the Crait version, and the Crait version needs a tweak and if they don't I will likely buy this figure. Capiche?

It is still Hamill as Luke - what they had him do in TLJ aside, you understand that people can still want an older Luke but have issues with the way Luke was depicted in the movie.