juntao05
Super Freak
The game is great, the statue is great and Nathan broke his arm during climbing.
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Spoiler:that I totally predicted that Sam wasn't trustworthy from the start. Especially his behaviour in Libertalia confirmed my suspisions Sam had been lying about the Alcazar.
Also, this is probably nitpicking but is it ever explained how 15-year old Nate ended up alone in Colombia as shown in Uncharted 3? He was definitely younger than 15 when he left the orphanage and judging from the way the story was told, I got the impression that Nate and Sam stayed together 'til Sam was presumed dead in Panama.
Finished the game last night and I really enjoyed it. Hard to decide which is my fav :Uncharted 2 or 4.
The story was pretty good. You can definitely see the 'Last of Us' influences. I liked how it wrapped the series. My only complaint story-wise isSpoiler:that I totally predicted that Sam wasn't trustworthy from the start. Especially his behaviour in Libertalia confirmed my suspisions Sam had been lying about the Alcazar.
Also, this is probably nitpicking but is it ever explained how 15-year old Nate ended up alone in Colombia as shown in Uncharted 3? He was definitely younger than 15 when he left the orphanage and judging from the way the story was told, I got the impression that Nate and Sam stayed together 'til Sam was presumed dead in Panama.
Spoiler:Nate said to Elena when he was telling her "everything"..., "Since then, one or both of us has been in and out of jail ever since" (until Sam 'died' in Panama), Or words to that effect, I've only watched the scene the once. I got the impression that to write Sam into Nate's life once the U4 script was being penned, that Nate was by himself and alone when he met Sully. At some point during Nate's teens, Sam and Sully met. Clearly there is bad blood between them in the early chapters of the game. I assume that Sam wouldn't trust and have resentment for this older man taking his little brother under his wing. Likewise Sully as shown in the last two games has always stood by Nate and probably thought Sam was constantly trying to lead him into trouble.
Of course, in reality there was no brother at the time the script was penned for U3, so none of those details existed or mattered. Such is the nature of fleshing out a series, changing things, slipping in retcons. I always thought if I was to be picky, that some of the dialogue in UDF didn't work properly after U3 was made. We the viewer for a while there don't know if Sully has double crossed Nate or not. Nate doesn't even seen sure. We are given the impression that Sully is just an associate of Nate, like every other associate of his who has double crossed him, or he has had an uneasy alliance with at some point. (There's a reoccurring theme here. Flynn, Dante, Rafe, and even Eddie Raja if you treat material outside the games as canon, all worked with Nate at some point).. Clearly from the time U3 was fleshed out he was much more than just an associate. So tldr, I don't see how Nate would have doubted his allegiance when he was off with Roman and Navarro..
Also on Sam... my original suspicion when he was revealed in that E3 trailer, was that he would double cross Nate, probably aligning himself with the real antagonist. So to see his trickery in the second Act of the game was no suprise. I did genuinely think he would die redeeming himself, so I was wrong on that. ND has always been sneaky with their game titles, and "A Thief's End" could have pointed to that... but in the end they went for a much more feel good ending after a pretty desperate and almost TLoU dark tone at times.
Honestly. Dissapointed. The game peaked at chapter 10 for me and then it was downhill from there. The way the story was told was well done but story itself to me felt a bit lacking. The gunplay in these games is still mediocre at best. Pacing felt off. Probably my least favourite after the first game
Spoiler:I knew he was lying but I am so glad they didn't kill him off or make him a villain. I'm glad survived and he is an active part of Nate's life/fam.
I missed Chloe though... I wish she was in the game.
Finished the game last night and I really enjoyed it. Hard to decide which is my fav :Uncharted 2 or 4.
It would have been cool if treasures were actually hidden behind death traps, also Nathan is globetrotting all over the world in all these jungles and we don't run into any deadly wild animals. It would have been nice if some treasures were surrounded by deadly wild life, and some treasures possibly hidden behind deadly traps and deadly puzzles.
If they did that they would have called it Rise of the Nathan Drake.
More traps would have been nice I guess but deadly animals, I don't know. It seems like Uncharted has always stuck to its roots and I'm not sure if putting in those would make it, well, 'Uncharted' if you get what I'm mean? I also think the 'teen' rating for Uncharted games does restrict them a bit in terms of what they can do with the violence. With TLOU they just went full throttle with the violence.
And there's no 'deadly' wildlife in UC4 but it there are tons of wildlife seen throughout. I jumped out of my boat and tried to swim next to three dolphins that were following me on chapter 12. I also spotted a deer on the Scotland level and apparently a whale can be seen from one of the cliffs in that level too.
Though it would have been funny to see Sully and Nate get chased by a bear. Imagine the dialogue.
Oh I know there's tons of wildlife you can spot in game, but to me, having some sort of deadly traps and animals would have made the game better paced in my opinion since about 60% of the game is huge open levels without much to really interact with, so what was the point of making the levels so much bigger? I guess you're right about not being able to really pull that off with the T rating but that would have helped a ton with the pacing and kept things interesting. Instead every level consisted pretty much of the same thing, walking, talking, sliding, swinging, puzzles and combat, and most of it was really just walking talking, sliding, and swinging.
With the levels being so huge, sort of side objectives with tracking down treasures really would have helped with the immersion.
Tbh when ya finally get to Madagascar. It felt like MGS:V with the jeep and checkpoints. I was hoping to get a S ranking
Regarding Sam and a character I wished we saw...
Spoiler:I knew he was lying but I am so glad they didn't kill him off or make him a villain. I'm glad survived and he is an active part of Nate's life/fam.
I missed Chloe though... I wish she was in the game.
Spoiler:Yeah, I'd have liked a little more reference to her. Cutter was at least mentioned in name. The Naughty Dog directors go into it in the 'Art of' book. Basically it would have just made it too busy. Too many people. Especially with there being so much focus on the Sam/Nate relationship, and then later trying to heal Nate/Elena relationship (along with cement how much they are soulmates)
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