Torchwood -Declassified (Spoiler thread)

[Oscar_the_Gungan]

Did anyone catch the latest episode?
I have a question about the ending:

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The people burned to cinders in the modules, even though they are a pile of ash are they still alive as a pile of ash or are they truly dead at this point?

It might be a stupid question but just curious what anyone else thinks about it.

 

[DarthTrafford]

Did anyone catch the latest episode?
I have a question about the ending:

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The people burned to cinders in the modules, even though they are a pile of ash are they still alive as a pile of ash or are they truly dead at this point?

It might be a stupid question but just curious what anyone else thinks about it.

I'll say

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Truly Dead

 

[Darth Caedus]

Just watched the latest episode and liked it a lot. If they don't start letting us in on more information about the miracle, I'm going to start checking out. I LOVE the show, but it's starting to wear thin on me.

And it's a bummer what happened to

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dr. juarez she's on the credits for all he episodes, so hope might not be lost yet

 

[Devil_666]

I'll say

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Truly Dead

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When that one dude gets blown up and the docs cut off his head, the head is still living but NOT the body. Which means only 1 part of a person can be "alive" and have consciousness. I would assume that would be a persons head. If you incinerate someone and turn them into ash, unless you believe a single, minuscule particle of dust could still have consciousness.. then yeah those people are REALLY dead now.

The big revelation (at least to me) was..

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It's essentially open season to exterminate anyone with no consequences since by law "Murder" and "Attempted Murder" no longer exist. So all you have to do is injure someone to stop their brain function (like a gunshot to the head) and they'll be classified as "Category 1" which means incineration. No questions asked.

 

[DarthTrafford]

Just watched tonight's episode. Very emotional,towards the end.
A lot was revealed about the Miracle,I won't say what,not even in

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Spoilers

 

[Devil_666]

I'm confused by it all TBH.

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

I'm curious to see how they tie the whole thing up in one episode. There was way too much wheel spinning with this series.

 

[Darklord Dave]

Have to say this show has jumped the shark, wrestled with it and ended up getting eviscerated by it.

What I found charming with Jack was that he was always one step ahead and in control. Now he's not only not the leader of the group but he's getting kidnapped, beat up and being very un-Jack.

And I have no problem with the gay thing, but he was a lot more fun when he was omnisexual and his sexuality wasn't the be-all and end-all of his character.

If they do another season like this - I don't know that I'll bother even Tivoing it.

 

[Devil_666]

What I found charming with Jack was that he was always one step ahead and in control. Now he's not only not the leader of the group but he's getting kidnapped, beat up and being very un-Jack.

Well he IS very un-Jack because he's the only person in the world who's mortal after the "miracle".

 

[DarthTrafford]

I just watched the season finale and it goes out with a bang!
Nicely wrapped up and well worth the wait!
Can't wait to see if STARZ picks it up for another season!

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

I thought the series was too long and drawn out, but that was one hell of a payoff. If it had been 5 episodes instead of 10, I think it could have been right up there with Children of Earth. Hope we get another series.

 

[Shaun & Ed Fan]

I just watched the season finale and it goes out with a bang!
Nicely wrapped up and well worth the wait!
Can't wait to see if STARZ picks it up for another season!

Oswald Danes went out with a bang...literally!!!!

 

[Darklord Dave]

I just watched the season finale and it goes out with a bang!
Nicely wrapped up and well worth the wait!
Can't wait to see if STARZ picks it up for another season!

Let's hope not. If this was the best they could do - they should have left it for dead. The season long story arc does not work - if it's full of twists and turns like a Game of Thrones or Spartacus - but this was just boring. I found myself fastforwarding through a lot of it and not missing a single story point or character beat.

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And let's take the worst character in the history of the series and make him immortal?!!??

WTF x 1000!!!!

 

[Darth Caedus]

Just caught up on the last 4 episodes that I missed and I thought the payoff was quite good. Didn't see

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Ester dying and Rex becoming immortal....should be an interesting next season

 

[sueworld]

Let's hope not. If this was the best they could do - they should have left it for dead. The season long story arc does not work - if it's full of twists and turns like a Game of Thrones or Spartacus - but this was just boring. I found myself fastforwarding through a lot of it and not missing a single story point or character beat.

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And let's take the worst character in the history of the series and make him immortal?!!??

WTF x 1000!!!!

Oh I know. I mean for christ sake what were you thinking Russell???


Apart from a couple of episodes I thought the whole thing fell very flat. What a shame.

 

[ProgMatinee]

And I have no problem with the gay thing, but he was a lot more fun when he was omnisexual and his sexuality wasn't the be-all and end-all of his character.

Just caught this quote, I have to disagree that Captain Jack was ever about anything except sexuality. Pretty shallow character developed by a homosexual to try to show that "homosexuals are heroes too". Nothing wrong with the character being gay by any means, it was just always agenda driven, IMO.

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

I think the biggest problem with Miracle Day (aside from it just flat out being too long), was that it wasn't Torchwood. It was a generic sci-fi espionage thriller with a couple of Torchwood characters in it. I did think it ended strong, so I would like one more series to see where they take it, but they've got to make Torchwood a real organization again, and Jack has to be more than a guest star in his own series.

 

[comiclover47]

Watched it last night.didn't like the Rex been immortal part.Only hope is that they make an American Torchwood with Rex and Jack goes back to Cardiff. It really didn't feel like Torchwood this time.

 

[Kabukiman]

Finally got to watch Miracle Day now that it's on Netflix. Overall, I liked it. It was good, but not even close to Children of Earth. It took me a while to warm up to Rex, but in the end, I liked him.

I had some "SQUEEEEEE!!!" moments when Jack would mention The Doctor and moments with guest stars like Ernie Hudson and especially that scene with Nana Visitor and John de Lancie.

I had major problems with episode 7:

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Jack basically told Gwen that since he's mortal, he'd rather go out like a _____ than a hero. I get why Gwen was doing what she was doing and why she was acting kinda harsh and irrational, but Jack? Just seemed out of character to me. Especially considering his speech about living so many lifetimes and being ready to die at the end.

And then Nana Visitor's character says Jack would come just by giving him a name, which she does and he goes. Why kidnap Gwen's family then? Makes no sense and seemed like an excuse to stretch the series by an episode.

Last thing I wanna talk about is Gwen. This was Gwen's series, imo. I was kind of indifferent to Gwen before this series, but now I'm a pretty big fan. She had more emotion than the rest of the cast combined, and had many kick ass action moments. If not for Gwen, I don't think I would have enjoyed this series as much as I did.

Going forward, if there is a series 5, I hope Torchwood goes back to being "above the government, beyond the police" instead of this rag-tag group of semi-terrorists they've been portrayed as for the past two series.