"Terrorist" attack in Monterrey, Mexico...

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It's a sad day for Mexico...
it's been getting worse and worse with the Cartels for the past few years,
but it's completely out of control... I fear for what's to come... specially because the authorities and the military are widely outgunned, outmanned and outwitted...


https://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/08/26/mexico.attack/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Dozens killed in Mexican casino fire attack
By the CNN Wire Staff
August 26, 2011 10:09 a.m. EDT


(CNN) -- At least 53 people were killed in a fiery attack at a casino in an upscale area of Monterrey, Mexico, government and emergency officials said.
Eight others were injured in the Thursday afternoon attack, the Red Cross said.
Witnesses have told investigators that up to six people entered the Casino Royale and asked for the manager, according Adrian de la Garza, the state attorney general for Nuevo Leon.
When the manager refused, they set the building on fire, he said.
It's believed a solvent was used to start the blaze, possibly gasoline, de la Garza said.
Earlier reports that a grenade attack caused the fire could not be verified, he said. An investigation is under way.
Between 20 and 30 people were trapped in the casino by debris, said Cmdr. Angel Flores with the Green Cross.
Video from the scene showed a burned-out building as firefighters made rescue attempts to break the wall of the facade of the casino to release the smoke inside the building.
Authorities suspended rescue efforts Thursday night for fear that the building could collapse.

Mexican President Felipe Calderon responded to the incident through his official Twitter account.
"With deep consternation, I express my solidarity with Nuevo Leon and the victims of this abhorrent act of terror and barbarism," he said. "These reprehensible acts require us all to persevere in the fight against gangs of unscrupulous criminals. All the support to NL."
Monterrey is the capital of Nuevo Leon.
Gustavo Madrazo was one of many waiting outside the casino for information from authorities. He said his wife, Martha, and her sister, Miriam Gonzalez, were inside.

The federal government has made contact with local officials and Calderon has spoken to the governor of Nuevo Leon to offer support, said Alejandro Poire, Mexico's top national security spokesman.
The National Commission on Human Rights in Mexico said it has opened an investigation regarding the response to the events at the casino.
"The priority is to help safeguard the human rights enshrined in the Constitution of the United Mexican States and international treaties," it said in a news release.

The agency said it has also sent personnel to the scene including physicians, psychologists and lawyers to work jointly with authorities.
Nuevo Leon, in northeastern Mexico, has been the scene of recent violence.

In July, gunmen entered a downtown bar in Monterrey and shot 20 people dead. A public safety spokesman told CNN the attack was likely sparked by a dispute between organized crime groups for control of the El Sabino Gordo nightclub, where drugs were allegedly sold.
Nuevo Leon and the neighboring states of Coahuila and Tamaulipas have been the scene of clashes between organized crime groups. The Gulf Cartel and Los Zetas are vying for control of trafficking routes into the United States.

In November 2010, the federal government launched the Coordinated Operation Northeast, which involves sending more security forces to the area to tackle crime.
 
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It's a sad day for Mexico...
it's been getting worse and worse with the Cartels for the past few years,
but it's completely out of control... I fear for what's to come... specially because the authorities and the military are widely outgunned, outmanned and outwitted and too corrupt....

Fixed. :lecture:lecture:lecture

Most of their issues stem from corruption and the ease in which the cartel pays off public officials and law enforcement. :(
 
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They need to send someone down there to clean up that country...

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Unfortunately and in all seriousness, Mexico's issues are too widespread and deeply systemic to be fixed. The only possible answer would be the most extreme, for the Mexican government to turn Mexico into an authoritarian police state, and that probably wouldn't work. The days of crossing the border for a fun day in Mexico are over (they have been for a while, IMO). The chance of getting caught in a cross fire or being kidnapped for ransom aren't worth it.
 
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Sounds about par for the course in Mexico these days. This isn't even as bad as other mass killings, last August Los Zetas killed 80 some migrant workers in one night. Its insane. They don't report much,if any of it here. We get a lot of reports at work about the drug cartel activities, its beyond belief what's going on down there on a daily basis. People think Iraq is bad, they should educate themselves on the ____ going on right next to us.
 
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No kidding... people here might not know this,
but since this "War on Drugs" started, almost 50k people have been killed...
The corruption goes all the way up to the US unfortunately as well...
and with all the guns being sent from here, it's just such a cluster____ I honestly don't see what a viable solution is there...
and I hope it doesn't end with an intervention...
 
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F'n chaos down there.... And like Chase said, they don't report much of what happens up here. It takes mass killings to even register with our media.
 
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Yeah just a week or two ago an entire police force quit in a small town, about 30 officers. In the couple months prior they killed 5 officers and the chief from that town. And even that's not uncommon, if they can't buy you off they just kill you. Cop, judge, lawyer, reporter, it doesn't matter.
 
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Yeah man its crazy over there. I have family in El Paso, Texas and man there always telling me about what happens over in Juarez. Its just scary these days man
 
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No kidding... people here might not know this,
but since this "War on Drugs" started, almost 50k people have been killed...
The corruption goes all the way up to the US unfortunately as well...
and with all the guns being sent from here, it's just such a cluster____ I honestly don't see what a viable solution is there...
and I hope it doesn't end with an intervention...

This would be my biggest fear as well. But honestly, they're not capable of dealing with it. Hopefully, if something like this happens, someone else will step up to the plate considering U.S. involvement would be a HUGE conflict of interest.
 
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There is nothing more despicable than a drug dealer or the activities they have no problem carrying out. I feel for the people of Mexico and what its going through. I had a great time in the Mayan Riviera, its a beautiful country.
 
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People of Mexico need to step it up and take their county back. Look at the rebellions in the middle east...it can be done.
 
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Legalizing drugs would be a good place to start.

To some extent, I agree with this. Legalize it and tax it and treat it like alcohol.

I also still like the idea of annexing Mexico.

This I don't agree with. U.S. starts this ____ and they'll have a war to fight on home turf first, hence my "conflict of interest" statement earlier. Too many ignorant people who wouldn't see past the "U.S. is attacking Mexico" aspect to understand that something on that level needs to be done to make Mexico safer, cleaning it up and not necessarily put a stop to corruption (that's impossible), but cripple it.
 
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The thing with legalization is that you would legitimize the industry, give it the protection of property laws, remove the need for armed conflict, remove the need to bribe officials, etc. You make it legal, the criminal element will wilt.

I'm mostly kidding about annexation, but I believe it would do an amazing amount of good for both sides of the border. It's a pity intellectual evolution is so slow. Damn learning curve.
 
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Legalizing drugs would be a good place to start.

I also still like the idea of annexing Mexico.

This is not surprising. Mexico has been a blood bath a for a long time now. l doubt legalizing drugs would even do anything. Not only that the main stuff they deal in is Cocaine and the US ogvernment will not legalize drugs. infact if you mean legalize cocain, meth, heroin and those kind of drugs, that is the stupidest idea in the world. People abuse everything, hell people get hooked on and abuse prescription pills, overdose and die. So legalizing any drug other then pot would be a national meltdown with addicts everywhere. Hell they won't even legalize pot. So this will never happen, thank god. The only drug that should be legal is pot. Even if the US did legalize drugs, the drugs they would sell would be crap quality, and these cartels and street dealers would always have better more pure stuff, so legalizing it wouldn't really change anything.

I wouldn't even go to Mexico if l got free round tickets first class with what is going on there. These cartel members are just like terrorists, doing the same kind of attacks, making execution and beheading videos and putting them on the internet.
 
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The thing with legalization is that you would legitimize the industry, give it the protection of property laws, remove the need for armed conflict, remove the need to bribe officials, etc. You make it legal, the criminal element will wilt.

Some of it will. To this day there are still tobacco and moonshine smugglers. :lol
 
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