plasmid303
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Yeah some of the points on the "didn't like" list seem like nit-picking just to make it to 20, but some of them are understandable complaints, agreeable even.
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Yeah some of the points on the "didn't like" list seem like nit-picking just to make it to 20, but some of them are understandable complaints, agreeable even.
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I caught that....but he needed to say something...
If that was his point, then swing and a miss because that's not very clear in the wording and could easily be mader clear witha few extra words.
He looks like a confused, constipated cro-magnon the whole film. That's Worthington's whole shtick.
plasmid303
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I'll grant you constipated, but confused and cro-magnon? nope. Clint is rather svelte not blocky and generally projects an air of confidence and aggression, not bewilderment. Plus he has a normal forehead and not the sloped caveman and prominent brow ridge Worthington's got going on. Not saying Sam's performance was bad, just rather one note and ho-hum in a film full of one note ho-hum performances. But I'll give 'em benefit of the doubt as the script and dialogue blows.
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You see and thats the whole problem, the film makers all blew. This film fell short in the writing/directing department imo. Still, Sam did save this film from utter disaster imo.
plasmid303
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Hey, you chose the words, not me. Cro-magnon? That has nothing to do with a performance. Now you're just insulting the person with your choice of descriptors (svelte versus blocky?).
I understand what you mean, but I was watching Worthington's performance and listening to the subtle inflections of his voice when he talks. It's subtle and much less ostentatious as Bale's constant growl and bark. I won't say that Marcus was a particularly fascinating character, he wasn't, and the shoddy script saw to that, but none of it is a fault of Worthington's. I mean, they casted Sam on the recommendation of James Cameron (and you know about Sam and Avatar), so he must have something that takes notice.
But different strokes, different folks I guess. And I'm also a big fan of Clint as Joe. What figure is that in your avatar? It looks great from what I can see.
thin, slim, svelte, blocky, thick, built. whatever floats yer boat. 
But Sam does have a meathead, sloping forehead and prominent brow. He's not ugly or stupid or anything, just the way he is built. He not this bad, but getting there
I took the "subtle inflections" as him struggling to maintain the accent and sometimes slipping. He's not bad, but I don't get the love for his performance. I suppose in an empty, meaningless film one desperately searches for some bright spot.
It's a custom figure.
But Sam does have a meathead, sloping forehead and prominent brow. He's not ugly or stupid or anything, just the way he is built. He not this bad, but getting there
I took the "subtle inflections" as him struggling to maintain the accent and sometimes slipping. He's not bad, but I don't get the love for his performance. I suppose in an empty, meaningless film one desperately searches for some bright spot.
It's a custom figure.
plasmid303
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Hey, if you were too entranced with Sam's rugged physical features to notice his understated performance, that's your problem. 
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Well....I went and saw this again last night and....I liked it even better the second time. Sure, it has some clunky storytelling (especially towards the end), but it has a great "war movie" tone going and I really like Worthington's job with Marcus.
I do wish Conner (Bale) had stayed more a supporting character and had the Reese/Wright part of the story develop more...that seemed like it could have been it's own movie right there.
But I still like this movie a lot as it is.
I do wish Conner (Bale) had stayed more a supporting character and had the Reese/Wright part of the story develop more...that seemed like it could have been it's own movie right there.
But I still like this movie a lot as it is.
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I agree with these guys. Great points of discussion.
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Can anyone tell me the page of 10 things we did like and 10 things we didn't like about the film posted by plasmid?
plasmid303
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Yeah pal, here you go:
https://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37645&page=107
And if you look at TerminatorMan's post right above yours, you'll see a blue arrow button right next to my name in the quote, it'll take to that post with the list also.
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Raaugh....
Looks like this is the official discussion thread.
Saw the movie tonight. I liked it a lot. I thought the homages to T1 and T2 were pretty cool, particularly Marcus looking out at the future LA skyline and the battle between Connor and the Endo on the catwalk. It felt a little *too* dependent on future films and wish it could have had a more satisying finale (ANH, The Matrix, FOTR, and POTC:TCOTBP all did so even though they were the first of a trilogy) but I thought Connor and Marcus were great and it just "felt" like it could have been the future Reese was referencing in T1.
I think I would have preferred that they forego doing a trilogy and just have a satisfying conclusion with John dying at the end after saving humanity. Have Reese a little older, give him the picture, and work in the Terminators and Reese using the time displacement equipment at the end. Still a worthy effort and I look forwarding to watching it again on Blu-Ray.
Saw the movie tonight. I liked it a lot. I thought the homages to T1 and T2 were pretty cool, particularly Marcus looking out at the future LA skyline and the battle between Connor and the Endo on the catwalk. It felt a little *too* dependent on future films and wish it could have had a more satisying finale (ANH, The Matrix, FOTR, and POTC:TCOTBP all did so even though they were the first of a trilogy) but I thought Connor and Marcus were great and it just "felt" like it could have been the future Reese was referencing in T1.
I think I would have preferred that they forego doing a trilogy and just have a satisfying conclusion with John dying at the end after saving humanity. Have Reese a little older, give him the picture, and work in the Terminators and Reese using the time displacement equipment at the end. Still a worthy effort and I look forwarding to watching it again on Blu-Ray.
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