SDCC Update

[spazzy]

I'll take a Scarlett, Baroness, and Lady Jaye. IMO, the line won't be complete unless they're made.

Throw in Zarana and Jinx too!

 

[thenammagazine]

I see both points. Everything in moderation.

SSC needs to release a female character soon, IMO, but when they do I don't want them to all of a sudden as I think Meat Hook implies, go "clone" with them and go 4 or 6 releases straight because SSC is trying to maximize the margin on the female body.

Though on the other hand...Zartan or whoever the first muscle body would have been can be considered a "rubber duck", yet at some point they did need to take the leap of faith that the body would be suitable and release him.

They can't live in fear that the female pro will be an instant disaster.

There's no need to do so since it can be spread just as easily across the 3 1/6 licenses. It'd be great to finally see a decent Padme or a Hoth Leia and I doubt anybody would scoff at a Wonder Woman, Harley Quinn or a Supergirl. Hell, they can revive Indy by doing a Marion or Spalko figure too.

The only reason the Babysitter in the Dead line led to the demise is because they released 4 repaints of the same exact figure after releasing 3 repaints of the Tactical Operator. Trying to apply that logic to characters that are unique is laughable.

 

[ProgMatinee]

You have to admit that if SSC's lineup for 2012 was 10 female figures across 3 or 4 lines SOME people might be a little turned off.

I personally wouldn't mind, but I think there is a certain group that would, just as there is a certain group that is not interested in 10 clones or 10 robots or 10 cobra troopers or 10 of anything.

So the logic that SSC does do that, and that people do respond unfavorable to it, isn't that laughable. Taking it to the extreme and saying that it will kill the line...maybe. SW is still going despite all of the clones and they will keep going after they release a bazillion battle droids next year.

I do agree that the pain for specific lines will be minimized but for anyone collecting all of the lines, I think for a 12-18 month stretch fem figures will be quite the norm.

Thats a good thing for me though as I like a lot of the female designs in these licenses.

 

[Khev]

I hope its true about the new SE coming with both goggles and a visor. Hopefully they made the new visor a little smaller this time.

 

[spazzy]

I love the female designs, I would possibly even pick up some dc characters if cool enough.

 

[TripleCP]

The unpopularity of female actions with kids isn't really a factor with this line. Also, one of the biggest reasons 1:18 figures don't do so well is that they often have butch-looking head sculpts.

I'd buy Scarlett, Cover Girl, Lady Jaye, Jinx, Baroness, Zarana, and a female Cobra Trooper/Officer before I'd buy Serpentor.

Unlike LotR, 1:6 Joe figures don't really have to compete against more detailed PFs and statues.

 

[ProgMatinee]

A lot of times 1/6th females look like crap too. I know its been a while, but most SSC Bond females are atrocious. The Buck body aside, the faces for Princess Leia and the Padme are not great either. Hair is always hard to get right no matter how they pull it off.

The best 1/6th scale female figure from SSC, IMO, is the Assajj Ventress and she's bald and the head is painted grey!

If they can rival what HT has been doing with female figures for the past few years then I can see the females being successful. If we get stuff on the level of the ANH Leia (just talking about sculpt and paint), then it will fall short.

 

[thenammagazine]

You have to admit that if SSC's lineup for 2012 was 10 female figures across 3 or 4 lines SOME people might be a little turned off.

I personally wouldn't mind, but I think there is a certain group that would, just as there is a certain group that is not interested in 10 clones or 10 robots or 10 cobra troopers or 10 of anything.

So the logic that SSC does do that, and that people do respond unfavorable to it, isn't that laughable. Taking it to the extreme and saying that it will kill the line...maybe. SW is still going despite all of the clones and they will keep going after they release a bazillion battle droids next year.

I do agree that the pain for specific lines will be minimized but for anyone collecting all of the lines, I think for a 12-18 month stretch fem figures will be quite the norm.

Thats a good thing for me though as I like a lot of the female designs in these licenses.

You misread what I typed. The Dead "died" because of all the variants of existing figures. Subject 805 had three color variants. This was followed by Subject 1025 who had 4 color variants. Collectors got sick of Sideshow releasing them instead of new figures and stopped buying since, unlike the Clones, there's no reason to be doing so other than milk money out of existing molds to save money. Then, finally when they got around to new ones, they'd run off most of their base which is why Harbinger and Butcher, two excellent figures, were hard sells.

Where it gets laughable is trying to apply that logic to 3 female Joes who amongst themselves, aside from the base body, are 100% different from each other to argue why releasing female Joes anywhere but dead last would cause the Joe line to fail.

A lot of times 1/6th females look like crap too. I know its been a while, but most SSC Bond females are atrocious. The Buck body aside, the faces for Princess Leia and the Padme are not great either. Hair is always hard to get right no matter how they pull it off.

The best 1/6th scale female figure from SSC, IMO, is the Assajj Ventress and she's bald and the head is painted grey!

If they can rival what HT has been doing with female figures for the past few years then I can see the females being successful. If we get stuff on the level of the ANH Leia (just talking about sculpt and paint), then it will fall short.

I agree on the Bond gals. Assaj wasn't bad. Neither was Boussh. My favorite fem from Sideshow is Laura Croft. Best female Buck-based figure IMHO.

 

[Deak Starkiller]

Bored at work...

 

[teemu]

Drop the boring(expensive) environments and just produce more
12" figures!! Bring on Snow Job,Destro,and Alpine!!
I dont care how heavy they make junkyard in the box,they must make Mutt!!

 

[Deak Starkiller]

I'd like to comment on my WWF sign, it's HIlarious.

 

[lerath666]

From the General Joes site:

https://generalsjoes.com/2011/07/27...ling-in-sideshow-collectibles-news-and-intel/

Summary of new info:

They are fine tuning their female body. So that it looks correct with and without armor (indicates that Baroness will lead off?)

They are going with sculpted hair for the females because it gives them more options for styles and the ability to swap out hairpieces for different looks (i.e. windswept, ponytails, etc).

They still have Destro in development – again, fine tuning the new muscular body.

Possibility of small vehicles, specifically the Flight Pod/Trubble Bubble

Condition Red: Urban Threat is coming out in Q1 2012. This will be the last environment for a while.

Desert Cobra Officer should be available by the end of this year. There is also another Cobra trooper that is coming out later this year that they are very excited about.

They plan to play up the more unique and sci-fi aspects of G.I. Joe to keep it from being just another military line.

They also want to focus more on environment specific Joes that have unique looks, with an "alpine" specialist being the example cited.

They’ve begun using a stone washing technique to soften up camo patterns and make them look more worn. Hawk’s pants will be the first example.

They are planning to put out another Storm Shadow at some point using the newer fabric techniques shown with the Red Ninja and Ninja Viper. No timeline or indication of which version.

The plan for the next Snake-Eyes figure is to include both the v1 (commando) and v2 (visor) versions of his head so that owners of the original SE figures can replace its head with an all-sculpted design.

Production of Joes will decrease next year (possibly to only one per quarter) so that fans of Star Wars, G.I. Joe and the upcoming DC Comics action figures will be able to collect all three.

Woot on the new female body. Glad to hear it's not a dead project. I was starting to worry.
My only Remaining concern about is is that is has better QC than the pro did at it's launch.

Also happy to hear that they are going to slow down Joe releases. I'm tired of canceling because too much hits at one time, and then being forced to choose between characters.

I think my head might explode if i had to choose between the viper and hawk, for example.

Concerned with that Sci Fi comment, Battle Force 2000??? WTF

GI Joe has always had a science-fiction element.
The Mass Device
M.A.R.S. using cybertronian tech ( both in the joe/transformers crossovers, AND in the main storyline. Castle Destro anyone?)

And what abou...

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I'm guessing the "sci-fi" element means we'll see figures such as . . .

AIRTIGHT (chemical, biological, radiological)
B.A.T.
DIAL-TONE
FLASH (laser rifle)
GRAND SLAM (w/ JUMP) or maybe STARDUSTER (w/ JUMP)
MAINFRAME
NIGHT-VIPER
SCI-FI (laser rifle)
TECHNO-VIPER
TELE-VIPER

Delta beat me to it I see.

Throw in Zarana and Jinx too!

Most definitely. Speaking of Zarana, did anyone snag one from SDCC or HTS? I completely forgot about her in all the Sideshow goodness.

 

[DeltaForceChung]

Most definitely. Speaking of Zarana, did anyone snag one from SDCC or HTS? I completely forgot about her in all the Sideshow goodness.

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Let's kick it up a notch . . . is a 12" ZARANA even on Sideshow's design/production radar?

It's obvious with regards to THE BARONESS, SCARLETT, & LADY JAYE, but not necessarily obvious when it comes to COVER GIRL, JINX, & ZARANA.

As much as I and others have derided Sideshow over the design of their previous female figures, I am glad that Sideshow is taking their time to ensure their female body design will be worthwhile given the obvious reputation & stake on the line if they <CENSORED> it up.

 

[DeltaForceChung]

Drop the boring(expensive) environments and just produce more
12" figures!! Bring on Snow Job,Destro,and Alpine!!
I dont care how heavy they make junkyard in the box,they must make Mutt!!

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Just a guess, but . . .

IF Sideshow produces MUTT & JUNKYARD . . . We'll see MUTT produced as a stand alone figure and the exclusive version will come with JUNKYARD . . . OR . . . JUNKYARD will come with a GI JOE checkpoint/sentry mini-environment that will compliment MUTT . . . contrary to what was previously stated about 12" environments.

 

[ProgMatinee]

Where it gets laughable is trying to apply that logic to 3 female Joes who amongst themselves, aside from the base body, are 100% different from each other to argue why releasing female Joes anywhere but dead last would cause the Joe line to fail.

I think I 100% agree with you and know where you are going from, I'm just saying that I think if they released 10-12 female figures in 1 year (regardless of license) you will get a lot of people start spouting a lot of hyperbole about how Sideshow has gone soft or looking for more female collectors or something. You know how people around here usually only concern themselves with the immediate future.

So I'm saying that while the talk might be unfounded and unnecessary, the talk will be there.

 

[Deak Starkiller]

Skiman...Flosi, Sam!?!?! Comment on my 1990's WWF sign.

 

[teemu]

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Just a guess, but . . .

IF Sideshow produces MUTT & JUNKYARD . . . We'll see MUTT produced as a stand alone figure and the exclusive version will come with JUNKYARD . . . OR . . . JUNKYARD will come with a GI JOE checkpoint/sentry mini-environment that will compliment MUTT . . . contrary to what was previously stated about 12" environments.

G.I.Joe check point with Junkyard? BOUGHT!

but I prefer Junkyard packaged in with Mutt and also not be the exclusive.

 

[The Josh]

And when all is said and done, Scarlett, Lady Jaye nor the Baroness will kill the line.

Those three ladies right there will help propel the Joe line even further into the awesomeness it already has. Anybody who thinks these will hurt the line is I think being silly at best in their line of thinking. These will help flesh out the line more and even bring in new buyers I would imagine. This line is in need of the 3 most important ladies in the Joe universe so as I said those won't hurt them at all. So I'm with ya after all that text.

 

[thenammagazine]

I think I 100% agree with you and know where you are going from, I'm just saying that I think if they released 10-12 female figures in 1 year (regardless of license) you will get a lot of people start spouting a lot of hyperbole about how Sideshow has gone soft or looking for more female collectors or something. You know how people around here usually only concern themselves with the immediate future.

So I'm saying that while the talk might be unfounded and unnecessary, the talk will be there.

I doubt Sideshow would release 10-12 females in a year though. They'd likely do 1-2 and see how they turned out and then integrate them into the lines as regular releases. They'd almost have to do it with Star Wars considering they've now got Droids and aliens to contend with too. DC, I don't see them doing that as aside from Wonder Woman, the real heavy hitters are all male. For Joes, I doubt it as well. They seem more like the "Vader" releases than anything else, which is unfortunate.

Skiman...Flosi, Sam!?!?! Comment on my 1990's WWF sign.

I hate signs at WWF/WWE events. I paid $$$ to watch wrestling matches, not to see the back of some *********'s sign.

 

[lerath666]

For nam

A List of DC females I expect sideshow to do.

Power girl with "breast enhancements"
Wonder woman
HARLEY
IVY!
Catwoman.