Is SS coping with the EU CRISIS

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There are plenty of signs that the decline in American purchasing power around the world has effected Sideshow, but I don't think selection of product is one of them. Their role as distributor for other companies has been long established.

Other than the closing of the EU warehouse years ago, I can't think of anything that's directly related to Europe's troubles.

Devil, how can a business prosper if their export dollar is compromised by the import cost's. Let us all be realistic, SS products are generally manufactured in China, if SS commission a product (SS, Bowen, Hot Toys) we can assume that they have been produced in China and an item that does not sell well due to production costs, means that the business runs at a loss. This thread is not about gov' financial policy, it is about how SS can produce products within this current financial environment that are to their high standards and accessible to their base market you and me! That is not cost inhibitave.
 
I've always assumed that their distribution deals were supplemental. There is little to no overhead on product they don't have to manufacture, and if the cost of importing was prohibitive, I doubt we'd see them moving any foreign product.
 
I've always assumed that their distribution deals were supplemental. There is little to no overhead on product they don't have to manufacture, and if the cost of importing was prohibitive, I doubt we'd see them moving any foreign product.

Overhead, what do you think that the US dollar has parody with the Chinese 'Renminbi'
Dude, when was the last time you bought a SS product that did not have MADE IN CHINA on the box? Foreign products everything in America is foreign. Take a look at your Nike's....Reebok.....Banana Republic.
 
I'm talking about the product they distribute for foreign companies, such as Hot Toys, Medicom, Alter, etc.

If you're talking about them importing their own product, then what they've done is raised prices, instituted non-refundable deposits, gone to greater lengths to discern the most profitable edition sizes, and other things that I'm sure people who pay more attention than I do could tell you about.

And how is this conversation not about government policy when Europe has become so hostile to imorts that they had to close their warehouse there, and when America is so hostile to manufacturers that the only place worth producing is China?
 
No, he's right. Europe is a self-important has-been, much the way the U.S. is becoming because so many here believe there's something virtuous about European economic models. I think the state of both economies is a clear sign of how full of crap that presumption is, but the fact that the EU is in far worse shape should be enough to show which region has retained the greater share of fiscal rationality.
 
To formulate any reasonable argument on this subject, you'd need to have hard stats in front of you. You'd need to know how much per unit it costs for Sideshow to manufacture each piece, how much they pay to import their pieces, the sales records for not just the EU, but worldwide, etc. You're essentially guessing that they're suffering because the EU's in a financial crisis and you don't like any of the pieces they've produced in a while. That's flawed logic. :huh
 
I'm talking about the product they distribute for foreign companies, such as Hot Toys, Medicom, Alter, etc.

Devil, do you understand that the US forged trade agreements with most of the nations of the EU. You could say that the hens have come home to roost.HT, Med, Alt, they need SS to optimize their global network. Asia is the blossoming SUPER power. SS are a manufacturer and purchaser, if production cost's in Asia/China increase due to global issues then they pass those costs on to the consumer. And then the SS design team review the best option's for the coming year. It's not politics it's business.
 
No, he's right. Europe is a self-important has-been, much the way the U.S. is becoming because so many here believe there's something virtuous about European economic models. I think the state of both economies is a clear sign of how full of crap that presumption is, but the fact that the EU is in far worse shape should be enough to show which region has retained the greater share of fiscal rationality.

:goodpost: I agree with this completely. The U.S. is in bad shape and will continue to be so until we are in default unless we learn from what is going on around us. We have a global economy now, and if things don't improve it's bad news for everyone including China.
 
That's a fact.

Sennalupo said:
It's not politics it's business.

And until politics gets its thieving socialist hands out of business, all business will be politically relevant.

Yes, I realize that the U.S. has been too densely pragmatic to avoid European trade like the plague. And no, Asia is only an emerging superpower so long as the U.S. supplicates itself to nonsense progressive economics, they likes of which are throwing molotov cocktails all over Greece (coming soon to a street near you).

All of that aside, how any of it relates to the fact that you don't like what they've been producing is anyone's guess. Europe is not that significant of a market to have an impact on Sideshow's art direction.
 
Are you serious, I am not sprouting the decadence of a few, all I am saying is that I personally have noticed a change in the products being produced by SS. Hell I'm not saying that I want to be provided with an array of high priced goods, I was just commenting on the sudden change in products being offered. Social responsibility is a requirement of the elected government, or the philanthropy of the 1%.

Oh the philanthropy of the 1%!!! That is the new catch phrase now...isn't it? If people want to share that's fine, but no one should made or punished because they have more money. I am in the 1% but I work 60 to 70 hours a week to try and be more successful. Success is rarely given but it is more often than not earned. I am not disparaging giving in any way and I do think it's the right thing to do but there just seems to be this sentiment that we should just take (not implying you by any means here). It's just what I keep hearing these days.
 
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To formulate any reasonable argument on this subject, you'd need to have hard stats in front of you. You'd need to know how much per unit it costs for Sideshow to manufacture each piece, how much they pay to import their pieces, the sales records for not just the EU, but worldwide, etc. You're essentially guessing that they're suffering because the EU's in a financial crisis and you don't like any of the pieces they've produced in a while. That's flawed logic. :huh

Can you honestly tell me that over the past six (6) the production and selection of items presented have been up to the standard and variety of the previous 6 months? Lets not get into semantics all I am saying is that design decisions appear to be made on an economic rational rather than a artistic passionate group one.
 
Can you honestly tell me that over the past six (6) the production and selection of items presented have been up to the standard and variety of the previous 6 months? Lets not get into semantics all I am saying is that design decisions appear to be made on an economic rational rather than a artistic passionate group one.

Whether or not I feel they are or aren't, would not change the fact that it's entirely subjective. If all the pieces disappeared from Sideshow's website like the Rick O'Connel PF, I might say you could potentially have a point. But they haven't, and believe it or not, SSC is not solely dependent on the EU market. You're basing it solely off of your opinion and an economy that's fractionally contributory. There are no hard facts at all that support your opinion here. So there's really no meat in your argument. :huh
 
I think it's starkly apparent, and if it weren't obvious enough already, the howls of protest (from those who have the most to lose if we fix the problem) would be a dead giveaway. They frantically blame the people who create the wealth they want to loot, scream with indignation that it really belongs to the people who didn't produce it, and expect their proclamations to be taken seriously as an explanation of why wealth is disappearing hand over fist. :lol
 
Except for Greece n whatever other countries i thought it was the US who is worse off.

There are a few countries in Europe like Germany that are in good if not great shape but as a whole Europe isn't doing so well. That's not saying the US is doing much if any better. This is a global recession and next will be news coming out of china of a large economic slowdown which could further exacerbate the issue. However, china, does by large measure control what data is released and what news will come out so we will see. The whole world's economy is in poor shape my friend. When you start investing and talking things over with your financial consultant trying to find good/safe areas to invest your money, you start to get a clearer picture of just how bad things really are.
 
There are a few countries in Europe like Germany that are in good if not great shape but as a whole Europe isn't doing so well. That's not saying the US is doing much if any better. This is a global recession and next will be news coming out of china of a large economic slowdown which could further exacerbate the issue. However, china, does by large measure control what data is released and what news will come out so we will see. The whole world's economy is in poor shape my friend. When you start investing and talking things over with your financial consultant trying to find good/safe areas to invest your money, you start to get a clearer picture of just how bad things really are.

Hasn't that already happened? I read somewhere that they were being criticized over falsifying the value of the RMB.
 
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