the new sculpt looks better, people are ****ting on the old MMS117 because it looks like ****, always has, the DX sculpt doesnt look amazing but the reason people are defending it so strongly is because ignorant people are saying the MMS117 looks more like arnold, which is borderline insanity, and also when ur comparing **** (MMS117) vs decent (DX), thats a big jump, this is a hobby of subtlety, and if something is subtly better, thats actually a huge jump, especially when the original one didnt look like the actor at all it looked like a caricature of the character, the new sculpt actually looks like arnold now, especially with the glasses on, some pics almost look like photographs of arnold, same thing with the old joker, it didnt look like heath at all, it just looked like a caricature of the joker...and if you think the DX batman looks bad then i feel bad for you, it must suck to live a life where almost all things look ****ty to you...ive shown that figure to 15 people who arent involved in this hobby and they were all blown away, the thing looks amazing, you put the frown face on, tilt the head down a bit and it looks unreal, sure if you put a **** face plate on, eyes straight ahead, and take a picture using a full flash 2 inches from the face you could complain, but its easy to pose it so it looks amazing, ive seen pictures of the keaton batman, eyes straight ahead pull flash and it looked poor and thats one of the best figures ive ever seen.. and also all this nonsense about PERS, PERS dont ruin sculpts, all these head shot photos, are closer to the face then you can even get when seeing it in person, it over exaggerates the eyelid, but in person, it isnt noticeable at all, its not the PERS that ruin a sculpt its just a poor sculpt around the eye, thats why some sculpts look good with PERS, if pers was a problem, every sculpt with pers would look horrible, it has nothing to do with pers, its if the sculpts of the eyes are good or not. AMEN.