Bioshock

[The ill Jedi]

^^^^ yeah bro. Got the Brass Balls achievement last night. #51 and this is my first game with all the achievements as well.

 

[Moonloop]

Think we'll get some news about Bioshock 2 at E3 this week?

 

[Darth Loki]

Think we'll get some news about Bioshock 2 at E3 this week?

Doubt it. They just announced it a few months ago and the original only came out in October.

 

[tylerd]

i haven't read all the posts in this thread, but was surprised to find a bioshock movie in the works. On May 9, 2008, Take Two announced a deal with Universal Studios to produce a BioShock movie, to be directed by Gore Verbinski (Pirates of the Carribean, The Ring) and written by John Logan (Gladiator, The Aviator, Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street) COOL!!!

 

[Moonloop]

Doubt it. They just announced it a few months ago and the original only came out in October.

Bioshock came out in August not October .

Plus they only announced Bioshock 3 one-two months ago.....can't they show us BS2 already

 

[Darth Loki]

i haven't read all the posts in this thread, but was surprised to find a bioshock movie in the works. On May 9, 2008, Take Two announced a deal with Universal Studios to produce a BioShock movie, to be directed by Gore Verbinski (Pirates of the Carribean, The Ring) and written by John Logan (Gladiator, The Aviator, Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street) COOL!!!

Such a unique story. If done well, this could be great.

 

[apache_rulez]

I love bioshock it is my favourite game. Nice graphic and the best of all the the storyline. Not alot of games has good and interesting storylines. More bioshock stuff bring it on.

 

[warrioe-sage]

Such a unique story. If done well, this could be great.

I love how the game Bioshock has an Atlantean vibe to it..
and the underwater city the game takes place in is called Rapture..
water is the symbol of the The Age of Aquarius or the collective consciousness
Rapture is symbolic for enlightenment or next stage of human evolution

https://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=rwUkDPyXYvA

I like all the hidden, occult, biblical meanings.
And how plot deals heavily with genetic manipulation, and the main resources in the game are ADAM, EVE, and Money.

The game takes place during 1960 in Rapture, a fictional underwater city secretly built in 1946 on the mid-Atlantic seabed, entirely self-sufficient and powered by submarine volcanoes. Constructed by business magnate Andrew Ryan, Rapture was envisioned as the only place on Earth that could support individualism, and populated by those Ryan believed exemplified the best in humanity. During the early 1950s, this population peaked at several thousand, though ranks of elite emerged from the rest, discomforting many.

Anyone else find these games to be telling of where the social mind-Psyops are being focused right now?

These are some pretty HEAVY gaming concepts. Although I guess gamers are eating this stuff up which only creates more of it...pushing boundaries all over the place.

Of course A.Ryan is a reference to Hitler



https://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=rwUkDPyXYvA


The ARYAN race was a term used in the early 20th century by European racial theorists who believed strongly in the division of
humanity into biologically distinct races with differing genetics. Such writers believed that the Proto-Indo -Europeans constituted a specific race that had expanded across Europe, Iran and India. This meaning was, and still is, common in theories of racial superiority which were embraced by Nazi Germany. This usage tends to merge the Sanskrit meaning of "noble" or "elevated" with the idea of
distinctive behavioral and ancestral ethnicity marked by language distribution. In this interpretation, the Aryan Race is both the highest representative of mankind and the purest descendant of the Proto-Indo-European
population.

I remember when I first watched part of the opening trailer of Bioshock and I have to say it was very disturbing. It reminded me of some dreams I've had... The definition of Aryan was surprising to me because the Nazi's used it to refer to fair blonde and blue eyed people, but if it represents indo-europeans I would think Aryans would be closer in appearance to Turkish or Indian people who have very different phenotypes. Strange how it evolved that way.

Aryan I have often thought must relate to Iran, I-raanyans, A-raanions, like Oniyons the layers peel away. Carrion
its all wierd in-breeding, pure my arse. Purity , a concept destroyed once one thinks about it - tough ^^^^ nazis and other puri-fires.
Alan Greenspan comes to Prague , with Cherie Blair - Cthulthu and Alice
Greenspan makes me think of bridges
or even Green Pan

There seems to be a lot of Armageddon implications in games lately. The fear (Or desire) for the world to meet its end seems to always be a constant in every generation. This good vs evil theme is really just a war within ourselves. Humanity is this worlds' worst enemy. People who control religion and government are the devil. Video games, movies, colleges hint at their identity, but most are naive to see it. I believe the wicked 33% put the information out just to see who bites.
most games coming out lately, they have nothing in common with each other except ONE: propaganda!

Choose rapture!

https://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=rwUkDPyXYvA

 

[NSFolsom]

Ahem.

Ayn Rand anyone?

 

[warrioe-sage]

Ahem.

Ayn Rand anyone?

I believe that some ideas of the story were taken from Ayn Rand's (similar to Andrew Ryan) book called Atlas Shrugged (by the way atlas is another term that means Atlantis). you never know where the team could have got their ideas from.

It's funny you say specifically Andrew Ryan's name may have be connected with Ayn Rand.

I always imagined it evolved from A. Ryan. Aryan. Aryan because in many ways Ryan reminds me of Adolf Hitler, who of course also led a movement to his personal vision of a "perfect society", the nazi interpretation of Aryan race..

CVG has released another morsel of information from their talks with BioShock senior designer Joe McDonagh. In addition to the game being turned down by countless publishers, McDonagh also talked about the game's origins, providing the interesting note that "BioShock for instance started out on a tropical island with Nazis."

We're trying to imagine our surviving protagonist facing off against countless evil soldiers hell-bent on creating superhumans enemies. We envision something of an amalgam between Return to Castle Wolfenstein and Gilligan's Island. The Little Buddy collects life essence while Big Daddy Skipper keeps him protected with coconut-fueled weaponry.
https://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/15/bioshock-started-as-a-tropical-island-with-nazis/

nazi's would make sense for something like this though since they were seeking the "perfect human" and that seems to be what the humans in Bio-Shock were initially after.


Fascism (like our western society's) or objectivist.
I think it's kind of a study on how every philosophical ideal can fall apart under extremely desperate circumstances. These people have been reduced to basically hardcore drug users; desperate for their next fix of plasmids and willing to do whatever is neccessary to obtain it.

A co-worker recently insisted I watch Rob Zombie's 'House of a Thousand Corpses'. After watching the movie I said I could see some similarities in art direction between this movie and Bioshock, also that I wouldn't be surprised if it was used as reference material. Can you guys comment on this at all?

 

[Darth Caedus]

So I started the game yesterday and it is bomb, great game so far. Put it on easy, just to run through it, might change it to hard and do another run through. Can't wait to get the plasmid that has the bee swarm

 

[IronFingaz]

Need to start playing this game.

 

[Darth Caedus]

Need to start playing this game.

I've had it since the beginning of the year and just never got around to playing it, once you start, you'll be glad you did.

I just got to the level where everything's like a forest. How far, if you guys know, am I into the game and how much more do I have???

 

[The ill Jedi]

So I started the game yesterday and it is bomb, great game so far. Put it on easy, just to run through it, might change it to hard and do another run through. Can't wait to get the plasmid that has the bee swarm

Yes, you should be killed for not playing this sooner.

Need to start playing this game.

You need to go out and buy this now.

 

[Darth Loki]

Need to start playing this game.

There's a reason it won so many 'Game of the Year' awards

 

[IronFingaz]

I've had it since the beginning of the year and just never got around to playing it, once you start, you'll be glad you did.

I just got to the level where everything's like a forest. How far, if you guys know, am I into the game and how much more do I have???

You need to go out and buy this now.

I've had it since release last year (August, right?). Just never got around to it.

 

[Vader AL]

I've had it since release last year (August, right?). Just never got around to it.

that smell you smell is the food in your fridge you bought months ago and didn't eat.

 

[Entropy]

I believe that some ideas of the story were taken from Ayn Rand's (similar to Andrew Ryan) book called Atlas Shrugged (by the way atlas is another term that means Atlantis). you never know where the team could have got their ideas from.

It's funny you say specifically Andrew Ryan's name may have be connected with Ayn Rand.

I always imagined it evolved from A. Ryan. Aryan. Aryan because in many ways Ryan reminds me of Adolf Hitler, who of course also led a movement to his personal vision of a "perfect society", the nazi interpretation of Aryan race..


nazi's would make sense for something like this though since they were seeking the "perfect human" and that seems to be what the humans in Bio-Shock were initially after.


Fascism (like our western society's) or objectivist.
I think it's kind of a study on how every philosophical ideal can fall apart under extremely desperate circumstances. These people have been reduced to basically hardcore drug users; desperate for their next fix of plasmids and willing to do whatever is neccessary to obtain it.

A co-worker recently insisted I watch Rob Zombie's 'House of a Thousand Corpses'. After watching the movie I said I could see some similarities in art direction between this movie and Bioshock, also that I wouldn't be surprised if it was used as reference material. Can you guys comment on this at all?

You make interesting points but I think Bioshock has much much more thematically in common with Ayn Rand and her philosophy than any Hitler/Aryan stuff. The plot and themes are similar to both Atlas Shrugged as well as The Fountainhead.

 

[kain4521]

Trophy list:

Maxed One Track-
The player has purchased every slot in one of the Plasmid or Tonic tracks

Maxed All Tracks-
Purchased every slot in all four Plasmid and Tonic tracks

Bought One Slot-
The player has purchased one slot in any Plasmid or Tonic track

Upgraded a Weapon-
The player has acquired at least one weapon upgrade

One Fully Upgraded Weapon-
The player has fully upgraded one weapon

Two Fully Upgraded Weapons-
The player has fully upgraded two weapons

Three Fully Upgraded Weapons-
The player has fully upgraded three weapons

Four Fully Upgraded Weapons-
Fully upgrade four weapons

Five Fully Upgraded Weapons-
Fully upgrade five weapons

Weapon Specialist-
Acquire all upgrades for all weapons

Fully Researced Thug Splicer-
The player has fully researched the Thuggish Splicer

Fully Researched Gun Splicer-
The player has fully researched the Leadhead Splicer

Fully Researched Spider Splicer-
The player has fully researched the Spider Splicer

Fully Researched Houdini Splicer-
Fully research the Houdini Splicer

Fully Researched Nitro Slicer-
Fully research the Nitro Splicer

Fully Researched Rosie-
Fully research the Rosie

Fully Researched Bouncer-
Fully research the Bouncer

Fully Researched Little Sister-
Fully research the Little Sister

Prolific Photographer-
Take at least one photo in every research group

Research PhD-
Max out all possible research

Research PhD-
Max out all possible research

Quality Research Photo-
The player has taken a Research Photo of the highest grade

Researched a Splicer-
The player has taken at least one Research Photo of a Splicer

One Successful Hack-
The player has performed at least one successful hack

Hacked a Security Bot-
The player has successfully hacked a security bot

Hacked a Security Camera-
The player has successfully hacked a security bot

Hacked a Security Camera-
The player has successfully hacked a security camera

Hacked a Turret-
The player has successfully hacked a turret

Hacked a Vending Machine-
The player has successfully hacked a vending machine

Hacked a Safe-
The player has successfully hacked a safe

Skilled Hacker-
The player has successfully completed 50 hacks

Basic Inventor-
The player has successfully invented at least one item

Avid Inventor-
Successfully invent at least 100 items

Ammo Inventor-
The player has successfully invented all possible ammo types

Tonic Collector-
Collect or Invent 58 Tonics in the Physical, Engineering and Combat tracks

Seriously Good at This-
The player has completed the game on the Hard difficulty setting

Dealt with every Little Sister-
The player has either Harvested or Rescued every possible Little Sister

Lucky Winner-
Hit the jackpot at a slot machine

Toaster in the Tub-
The player has shocked an enemy in the water

Historian-
Find every audio diary

Brass Balls-
Complete the game on Hard difficulty without using a Vita-Chamber

A Man Chooses-
Complete the game on Survivor difficulty

I Chose the Impossible-
Complete the game on Survivor difficulty without using a Vita-chamber

PLATINUM TROPHY-
Collected all other Bioshock trophies

Secret Trophies

Completed Welcome-
The player has successfully completed the Welcome To Rapture Level

Defeated Dr. Steinman-
The player has defeated the crazed Dr. Steinman

Defeated Peach Wilkins-
The player has defeated Peach Wilkins

Restored the Forest-
The player has restored the forests of Arcadia

Completed Cohen's Masterpiece-
The player has completed Sander Cohen's great masterpiece

Defeated Andrew Ryan-
The player has defeated Andrew Ryan

Broke Fontain's Mind Control-
The player has broken Fontaine's mind control

Became a Big Daddy-
The player has become a Big Daddy

Defeated Atlas-
The player has defeated Atlas

Irony-
The player has taken a picture of Sander Cohen's corpse

Found Cohen's Room-
The player has entered Sander Cohen's personal quarters

Little Sister Savior-
The player has completed the game without harvesting any Little Sisters

 

[bagelsncheesey]

Yes, you should be killed for not playing this sooner.


You need to go out and buy this now.