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Take that PC lovers. :pfft::lol

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NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Microsoft's dominance as the tech industry's most valuable player has ended.

On Wednesday, Apple's market capitalization edged past its longtime rival's as investors made official what consumers have long suggested: Microsoft is no longer the industry's alpha dog.

Just last month, Microsoft's market cap exceeded Apple's by about $25 billion, but now Apple is in the lead by nearly $3 billion.




Microsoft's consumer products business is struggling to compete as Apple's hot new items like iPad and iPhone capture the attention of customers.

Microsoft (MSFT, Fortune 500) fell 4% to close at $25.01 on Wednesday, while Apple (AAPL, Fortune 500) lost 0.45%, closing at $244.11.

Shares of Microsoft have dipped more than 15% in the past couple weeks, while Apple's stock is down just over 6%, despite recent market volatility.

"What this really means is that Wall Street has more confidence in Apple's growth prospects than it does in Microsoft's growth prospects," said Matt Rosoff, lead analyst at Directions on Microsoft, an independent firm.

"Apple is showing high growth, with the launch of its iPad and its new iPhone coming out, and while Windows is a great competitor versus the Mac, Microsoft just hasn't come up with new areas of growth."

Microsoft's reputation as a market leader took another hit Tuesday when the company announced that it plans to shake up its management structure.

Amid the shuffle, Robbie Bach, who was in charge of years-long effort to turn Microsoft into more of a threat to Apple by heading the entertainment and devices group and overseeing innovative consumer products like Xbox and Zune, will retire from Microsoft in the fall.

"This just means those efforts didn't work out," said Roger Kay, president of analyst firm Endpoint Technologies. "It's sort of like Japanese samurai ethic, which says you need to fall on your sword to maintain your honor."
Tow the line or keep up with the Joneses?

Part of Microsoft's problem is that, instead of finding its own audience, it has fallen into a game of catch-up and is focusing too much energy on finding products to directly rival Apple's, said Kay.

"I don't know if they have to compete," he said. "What seems to be working for Microsoft is its serious applications for businesses, education institutions and other enterprises, and if they stay focused on their commercial business that gives them a lot."

While Microsoft's first quarter earnings were boosted by the success of its new operating system, Windows 7, Apple's record profit and revenue in the first quarter was driven by iPhone sales.

And many of Microsoft's efforts to branch out have been met with little success. For example, the company's Zune music player, meant to rival the iPod, has failed to create the same buzz as Apple's device, with sales dropping significantly in 2009.

Microsoft even looked into creating a tablet computer that would have competed directly with the iPad, which Apple introduced at the beginning of April, selling more than 1 million in the first 28 days of release. But Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer ended up pulling the plug on the project before the tablet ever made it to market.

"Zune hasn't gone anywhere, their tablet is dead, their phones are having trouble establishing a market position -- but consumers still use Office and Windows," said Kay.

Other experts say that Microsoft shouldn't stop at its core business, and that it simply needs to innovate more -- and faster -- in order to stay competitive.

"They have to continue to try to find other businesses, otherwise growth is always going to be bound by the PC market," said Rosoff.

Until Microsoft develops a clear direction and finds new ways to innovate, Apple will continue to push ahead, he said.

"Wall Street believes in Apple because Apple continues to put out new products that capture the imaginations of the press and tech pundits," said Rosoff. "Microsoft just hasn't been able to come up with a new multi billion dollar business like Apple." To top of page
 
This should go in the Mac vs. PC thread, where all fan crap belongs.

This really isn't crap. Sure I took a poke but the thread was meant to simply share their numbers. I can't believe how far they have come. Never would have thought their numbers would topple micrsoft. If you see it is as fan crap then go elsewhere. :wave Or better yet, write CNN and tell them to stop reporting on "fan crap". :lol
 
We own a macbook and a pc. Reason we own a pc? Cause it's affordable for us. Had a mac been in our price range, we would own another.
 
They did the smart thing and expanded their product line since they cannot compete with Microsoft's OS, etc. as far as sales for just that.

Although I'm not sure most people really understand what these number/graphs mean. It's just on paper, it doesn't rely on profits or market share really but rather just what the stock is worth....that can change in one day because it's all dependant on the stock market.

Here's a pretty good explanation:

The tech world is abuzz today over the news that Apple has surpassed Microsoft as the largest technology company by market capitalization. Based on intraday trading, Apple now has a market cap of $227.1 billion versus Microsoft’s $226.3 billion. Even more alarmingly, Apple is now the second-most highly valued American company: Only Exxon-Mobil’s is higher, at $282 billion.

Now, market cap is a volatile thing, and Microsoft could easily surpass Apple once again based on the whims of the stock market. The bigger objection to using this as a gauge of Apple’s worth lies in the meaning of market capitalization itself, which is calculated by the number of shares of a company outstanding multiplied by the price per share. In a nutshell, this means it’s less a gauge of the intrinsic value of a company than of what people think it’s worth — or, in many cases, what people think other people think it’s worth. Is Apple really the most valuable technology company in America, then, or simply the most overhyped?


Let’s compare market cap to a metric that value investors like to use to roughly gauge a company’s long-term prospects: Its price/earnings ratio, which consists of the market value per share divided by the earnings per share. Apple currently has a P/E ratio of of 20.96, meaning investors are willing to pay $20.96 for $1 of Apple’s present earnings. Microsoft’s, on the other hand, is much lower: 12.93. Exxon’s is 13.49. The value investor Benjamin Graham, who counseled a conservative investing approach, considered any P/E higher than 15 or 16 to be “speculation” rather than true investing.

But that’s not all: Apple recently changed its accounting rules to “allow them to account for iPhone sales immediately rather than spread the effect over a 24-month subscription period.” If Apple had not made this change, its P/E ratio might be above 30, and thus even more speculative.

Higher P/E ratios, which are common in the tech world, aren’t necessarily bad: They just reflect greater faith that a company will continue to grow and deliver for the foreseeable future. But whose faith? A person or entity who’s buying stocks but not holding them forever, Warren Buffett-style, might buy Apple stock not because they think it’s the most valuable thing in the tech world, but because there are enough people who do that they can unload their stocks on someone who thinks it is in the near term and make a tidy profit.

Does all of this mean that Apple is experiencing a big valuation bubble? Not necessarily, but you’ve got to have a lot of faith that current trends will continue or that Apple will stay on top of what changes occur. With, to name but two examples, Android continuing to gain market share at the iPhone’s expense, and with all-you-can-eat streaming music services like MOG and Spotify challenging iTunes’ costlier a la carte model, that’s hardly a sure thing.
 
This really isn't crap. Sure I took a poke but the thread was meant to simply share their numbers. I can't believe how far they have come. Never would have thought their numbers would topple micrsoft. If you see it is as fan crap then go elsewhere. :wave Or better yet, write CNN and tell them to stop reporting on "fan crap". :lol

I'm on it!

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Unless Apple computers all of a sudden become as affordable as pc's, I could care less, but my Iphone is still pretty cool.............but I will stick with pc unless I get some phat cash.
 
Take that PC lovers. :pfft::lol

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NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Microsoft's dominance as the tech industry's most valuable player has ended.

On Wednesday, Apple's market capitalization edged past its longtime rival's as investors made official what consumers have long suggested: Microsoft is no longer the industry's alpha dog.

Just last month, Microsoft's market cap exceeded Apple's by about $25 billion, but now Apple is in the lead by nearly $3 billion.




Microsoft's consumer products business is struggling to compete as Apple's hot new items like iPad and iPhone capture the attention of customers.

Microsoft (MSFT, Fortune 500) fell 4% to close at $25.01 on Wednesday, while Apple (AAPL, Fortune 500) lost 0.45%, closing at $244.11.

Shares of Microsoft have dipped more than 15% in the past couple weeks, while Apple's stock is down just over 6%, despite recent market volatility.

"What this really means is that Wall Street has more confidence in Apple's growth prospects than it does in Microsoft's growth prospects," said Matt Rosoff, lead analyst at Directions on Microsoft, an independent firm.

"Apple is showing high growth, with the launch of its iPad and its new iPhone coming out, and while Windows is a great competitor versus the Mac, Microsoft just hasn't come up with new areas of growth."

Microsoft's reputation as a market leader took another hit Tuesday when the company announced that it plans to shake up its management structure.

Amid the shuffle, Robbie Bach, who was in charge of years-long effort to turn Microsoft into more of a threat to Apple by heading the entertainment and devices group and overseeing innovative consumer products like Xbox and Zune, will retire from Microsoft in the fall.

"This just means those efforts didn't work out," said Roger Kay, president of analyst firm Endpoint Technologies. "It's sort of like Japanese samurai ethic, which says you need to fall on your sword to maintain your honor."
Tow the line or keep up with the Joneses?

Part of Microsoft's problem is that, instead of finding its own audience, it has fallen into a game of catch-up and is focusing too much energy on finding products to directly rival Apple's, said Kay.

"I don't know if they have to compete," he said. "What seems to be working for Microsoft is its serious applications for businesses, education institutions and other enterprises, and if they stay focused on their commercial business that gives them a lot."

While Microsoft's first quarter earnings were boosted by the success of its new operating system, Windows 7, Apple's record profit and revenue in the first quarter was driven by iPhone sales.

And many of Microsoft's efforts to branch out have been met with little success. For example, the company's Zune music player, meant to rival the iPod, has failed to create the same buzz as Apple's device, with sales dropping significantly in 2009.

Microsoft even looked into creating a tablet computer that would have competed directly with the iPad, which Apple introduced at the beginning of April, selling more than 1 million in the first 28 days of release. But Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer ended up pulling the plug on the project before the tablet ever made it to market.

"Zune hasn't gone anywhere, their tablet is dead, their phones are having trouble establishing a market position -- but consumers still use Office and Windows," said Kay.

Other experts say that Microsoft shouldn't stop at its core business, and that it simply needs to innovate more -- and faster -- in order to stay competitive.

"They have to continue to try to find other businesses, otherwise growth is always going to be bound by the PC market," said Rosoff.

Until Microsoft develops a clear direction and finds new ways to innovate, Apple will continue to push ahead, he said.

"Wall Street believes in Apple because Apple continues to put out new products that capture the imaginations of the press and tech pundits," said Rosoff. "Microsoft just hasn't been able to come up with a new multi billion dollar business like Apple." To top of page

This has nothing to do with PCs, but with iPads, etc. Soooo......

:pfft::pfft::pfft::pfft::pfft::pfft:
 
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