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I'll keep this short. Ive CLEARLY missed the memo....

What the hell happened to the old Sideshow FREAKS Forum?? Where did this "Collectors Freaks" come from?

This place was amazing back in the day, even if some of the mods were D-bags. But now I get some spam from "Yoda" begging me to pay this forum to stay afloat every month. What the hell do I get out of it? Some sticker and a forum that operates at 10% of what it was when it was SSF? No thank you.

But seriously, did Darklord Dave sell this place? What did I miss??
 
I'll keep this short. Ive CLEARLY missed the memo....

What the hell happened to the old Sideshow FREAKS Forum?? Where did this "Collectors Freaks" come from?

This place was amazing back in the day, even if some of the mods were D-bags. But now I get some spam from "Yoda" begging me to pay this forum to stay afloat every month. What the hell do I get out of it? Some sticker and a forum that operates at 10% of what it was when it was SSF? No thank you.

But seriously, did Darklord Dave sell this place? What did I miss??
The site used to be affiliated with Sideshow, but Sideshow was fed up with unlicensed dollies being talked about in the forum they issued a cease and detest letter to the owner to remove all unlicensed product discussion, which includes custom figures.

Most unlicensed discussion were deleted, a few survived, then the owner decided to cit ties with Sideshow so the forum name has to be changed and we have collectorfreaks.com

Changing site name isnt an issue for me. But the removal of custom threads means alot of people who paid for the customs were left to seek out the customizers whom many had left their customers high and dry.

Also traffic dropped due to the fiasco but mainly a continuous shift from forum to social media platforms and reddit. This is a worldwide issue and this site is considered one of the more active dolly forums.

Naturally a drop in visitors means drop in ads revenue, losing sideshow also reduced the income thus Admins are sending out messages in hope to get people to become a premium member to help keep the site up and running.

i did not subscribe since i am not in the states so i dont get to use most of the perks being a premium member namely buy and selling.
 
The site used to be affiliated with Sideshow, but Sideshow was fed up with unlicensed dollies being talked about in the forum they issued a cease and detest letter to the owner to remove all unlicensed product discussion, which includes custom figures.

Most unlicensed discussion were deleted, a few survived, then the owner decided to cit ties with Sideshow so the forum name has to be changed and we have collectorfreaks.com

Changing site name isnt an issue for me. But the removal of custom threads means alot of people who paid for the customs were left to seek out the customizers whom many had left their customers high and dry.

Also traffic dropped due to the fiasco but mainly a continuous shift from forum to social media platforms and reddit. This is a worldwide issue and this site is considered one of the more active dolly forums.

Naturally a drop in visitors means drop in ads revenue, losing sideshow also reduced the income thus Admins are sending out messages in hope to get people to become a premium member to help keep the site up and running.

i did not subscribe since i am not in the states so i dont get to use most of the perks being a premium member namely buy and selling.

So Sideshow turned on this forum, which is one of the key places that people came to celebrate them? That is freaking wild to me...had no idea.

I was super active during 2006 to 2014 but tapered off my activity since then. So clearly oblivious to what happened, and don't see nearly the same amount of people here that I used to back in the day.

Thanks for your reply.
 
In 2018, Sideshow threatened to drop SSF (now the old forum) as an affiliate due to the sales and discussions of unlicensed figures. In an attempt to appease their demands, Dave nuked the custom section, but Sideshow decided to remove SSF’s affiliate status anyway. It was then that the forum’s name was changed from SSF to CF. Shortly after, though, Dave seemed to spiral into depression (some would say, he was binge-eating cheeseburgers) while leaving the forum to a state of neglect. During this time, Dave was still collecting Premium Membershjp fees while spammers were running rampant in every section. The forum also allegedly suffered some hacks due to poor maintenance.

Then sometime in 2020, Dave sold the forum to Group Builder - a company that buys forums with the intention of turning a profit, by means of donations, membership fees, etc. They’re the ones currently running this place.
 
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In 2018, Sideshow threatened to drop SSF (now the old forum) as an affiliate due to the sales and discussions of unlicensed figures. In an attempt to appease their demands, Dave nuked the custom section, but Sideshow decided to remove SSF’s affiliate status anyway. It was then that the forum’s name was changed from SSF to CF. Shortly after, though, Dave seemed to spiral into depression (some would say, he was binge-eating cheeseburgers) while leaving the forum to a state of neglect. During this time, Dave was still collecting Premium Membershjp fees while spammers were running rampant in every section. The forum also allegedly suffered some hacks due to poor maintenance.

Then sometime in 2020, Dave sold the forum to Group Builder - a company that buys forums with the intention of turning a profit, by means of donations, membership fees, etc. They’re the ones currently running this place.
I wondered what the whole story was.

It’ll be an honor to stay until they turn out the lights. Based on the constant panhandling, I suspect it won’t be too much longer.
 
What the hell happened to the old Sideshow FREAKS Forum??

This place was amazing back in the day..... to pay this forum to stay afloat every month. What the hell do I get out of it? Some sticker and a forum that operates at 10% of what it was when it was SSF? No thank you.

I was gone out of the hobby completely for a little over a decade myself. Came back in late 2022 or so and, like you, everything was different. A lot of the old names were gone. Darklord Dave was gone. My accumulated SSC points were gone. The forum had a name change. Etc, etc. Was told DD sold the site and this forum disaffiliated with SSC in total. No more Chicky, no more SSC Susan, no more board contests, etc, etc. Spooktacular has changed. Many of the dealers from back then are now gone too.

As for supporting memberships, I did it for 2023 for a full year. I decided to opt out of 2024 based on what would happen with a commerce situation I saw that impacted the entire community. But as that resolved, I'm probably open to it again in 2025. There was a half off pricing on a Black Friday for the memberships in late 2022 IIRC. I don't know if that's a consistent thing. From a marketing standpoint, if there was a flat 99 dollar pricing for a lifetime supporting membership, at least once a year ( Again, probably a Black Friday thing) for legacy members ( i.e. been here longer than 10 years or 15 years, a clear participating member, actual accrued good trade feedback, etc) , then I think more people would do it. Given where the economy is heading and how hard many people are hit with inflation/cost of living, and it doesn't look like much relief in in sight, the current pricing might be too much of a push for many people. Instead of three people who give a hard absolute no at 250 lifetime respectively, you might get three people willing to do 99 lifetime a piece, etc, etc. (The mind just processes it differently once it's less than a hundred dollars IMHO) Put it this way, this Black Friday in 8 months or so, if I was offered 99 dollars flat for a lifetime membership, as a forum legacy that participates, I'd probably do it. But that's just me.

Something that I used to say back in the old days at OSW, and it was also said many times by the original site owner there, was that if you were unhappy with posts, topics, participation, culture, tone, etc, etc, that you were seeing, then the best option was to start creating thread topics and participating in a way and manner in which you'd like to see others post. I.E. don't tell others what to post or not post if they are posting within the rules, but set an example. If something ugly happened in the general discussion area and 20 people reacted by starting 5 thread topics each, well supported, on something good and/or interesting about the hobby, think about the total impact. 100 threads, devoted to simply what's best about this hobby. Because if you love the toys, nothing else matters.

I wasn't a prolific poster through volume in the old days. I'm not one now. But I'm supporting two larger thread topics, one in the Military section and one in the Film/TV section, with consistent updates. So it's not just me saying something to you about what folks should consider, and then be caught not doing it myself. I'm doing it now, so I feel comfortable saying it out loud, that everything is an opportunity. Things are what we make of them.

I started into 1/6th back in 1992 or so. I'm forever grateful that I got in the ground floor, that I got to be part of "The Golden Age" of 1/6th, got to see SSC when it was a much different and more fan friendly company, got a lot of product before the price explosions, got to go to major shows when that was simply more viable for folks, and got to meet and learn from a lot of really good people over the years. There are some great people in this hobby, that have enriched the entire experience, and I'll always be appreciative of that.

Every hobby has a "life cycle" What we all got here was much longer than most niche hobbies. I'd say we've got maybe a quarter left, with some clear aspects of a decline phase. There are fewer people, fewer surviving dealers and a lot of people are just out of space or priced out. Some are old enough now to have exited their prime earning years. Since I've been back, I've seen two names I do remember from the old days and also OSW pass away. I'm sure more have died in the decade I was gone. This last bit of mile can be whatever we make of it. I can't change the trajectory of how life cycles work. But I can support two long running thread topics with effort. That's my act of "faith" here. You can choose to do the same. If all the legacy folks did that, just kept up consistent support of two thread topics they started, the total forum impact IMHO would be staggering.

I remember your screen name from the old days. I wish you the best in and out of this hobby, no matter what you choose. Good luck.
 
Sideshow got greedy.
Dave nuked my decade long customs thread.
Collectibles got way more expensive and stale.
People got older, tired of prices and trashing of everything.
Facebook has all your interest groups in one place.
 
Dave sold the site about the time he got involved in becoming the director of a little company known as EXO folks. That's where he spends his time and energy now.

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I'll keep this short. Ive CLEARLY missed the memo....

What the hell happened to the old Sideshow FREAKS Forum?? Where did this "Collectors Freaks" come from?

This place was amazing back in the day, even if some of the mods were D-bags. But now I get some spam from "Yoda" begging me to pay this forum to stay afloat every month. What the hell do I get out of it? Some sticker and a forum that operates at 10% of what it was when it was SSF? No thank you.

But seriously, did Darklord Dave sell this place? What did I miss??
I never even got the supposed promised sticker :lol
 
Sideshow got greedy.
Dave nuked my decade long customs thread.
Collectibles got way more expensive and stale.
People got older, tired of prices and trashing of everything.
Facebook has all your interest groups in one place.
Reddit too.
 
Dave sold the site about the time he got involved in becoming the director of a little company known as EXO folks. That's where he spends his time and energy now.

vulcan-salute-spock.gif
seems he went to a better place, for both himself and maybe startrek fans since they only star trek.
 
Also traffic dropped due to the fiasco but mainly a continuous shift from forum to social media platforms and reddit. This is a worldwide issue
I've always enjoyed using forums and never could adapt to all the different platforms out there. It just seems way easier to keep up with topics/posts, file management, etc. on the old forum style set up. I was cleaning out some old bookmarks and many of the sites I used to visit are completely dead or are no longer up. I'm a bit of a nostalgic person, so I often find myself reminiscing on the 'old times'. It's all bittersweet for me
:sleep:
 
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