Black Widow (July 9, 2021)

matticus said:

Assuming she is in IT? Better to have boring, quiet shifts than a loud, heavy labor job.

Living in the Midwest, I took offense to that humor! I'm sure the Texas citizens as well with the Thor: Ragnarok comment. Don't see NY or CA getting those shots!

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It was a joke about allergies relax lol

chrisstruthers said:

I'm sure they're able to see exactly how many accounts have spent the $30 on Black Widow.

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But we're not.

jye4ever said:

My sister actually tracks this exact data for D+ in real time she just told me it’s legit.

She literally sees the premier access opening up once paid for her team tracks the flow of data back and forth in crazy ass detail that would blow your mind.

She swears that she can’t look through our cameras but I don’t believe her lol

She tracks:

What is being watched
How long it’s watched for
How many are watching
What is being brought up on the screen even if play is not pressed
From what device

Plus her team handles the health of the stream.

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That's frightening.

jye4ever said:

Not if you see what she looks like lol

I know I might not seem like a nice brother but she appreciates my honesty lol

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Is she married or is she a single career woman in her late 30's/40 that lives with a male cat companion?

The Clown Prince of Crime said:

Is she married or is she a single career woman in her late 30's/40 that lives with a male cat companion?

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Single with 2 cats lol

jye4ever said:

I’m just going to come out and admit it I got choked up during the post credits scene...

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You shouldn't have. We're going to make fun of you now.

This girl is going to be a star

I guess I have to give her props for attempting to due a Russian accent . Too bad she couldn’t use her real accent.

Don’t hate me ..we need to see her Daisy Ridley do a film together in the future

guyver1 said:

This girl is going to be a star

I guess I have to give her props for attempting to due a Russian accent . Too bad she couldn’t use her real accent.

Don’t hate me ..we need to see her Daisy Ridley do a film together in the future

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Her accent will be gone in Hawkeye, almost a guarantee.

chrisstruthers said:

Her accent will be gone in Hawkeye, almost a guarantee.

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That’s right ..Wanda..yes it needs to happen Wait does anyone know if she can do a American accent

Well since spoilers are abundant in our conversations,

Valentino Allegory de Fountain has recruited a Cap and a Widow so far. Is this going to be a Dark Avengers team rather than a Thunderbolts? Maybe a combo of both? Who knows if the Taskmistress and Widows will ever be seen again. Will a Hawkeye be Kate Bishop? Abomination/She Hulk as Hulk? Jane Foster/Valkyrie as Thor? Hammer/Ironheart as Iron Man? I feel like this would be for a Cap4 movie.

matticus said:

Well since spoilers are abundant in our conversations,

Valentino Allegory de Fountain has recruited a Cap and a Widow so far. Is this going to be a Dark Avengers team rather than a Thunderbolts? Maybe a combo of both? Who knows if the Taskmistress and Widows will ever be seen again. Will a Hawkeye be Kate Bishop? Abomination/She Hulk as Hulk? Jane Foster/Valkyrie as Thor? Hammer/Ironheart as Iron Man? I feel like this would be for a Cap4 movie.

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Most likely…Your suspicions are correct…Shang Chi is going to tease even more Phase 4 ideas supposedly also

matticus said:

Not going TLJ will keep the train going and it will take a number of flops to derail the brand. Looks like everyone went out to see this one! Got to see how the next weekend performs to see long term performance. China/India has no release date yet.

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I think it will tank in China and elsewhere in Asia. Going straight to streaming just means it is easy to pirate. It is more likely people will pirate this movie in a lot of Asian territories. I know for one in my country, maybe 90% of the people that watched this over the weekend would have pirated it because theaters aren't open yet and we don't have D+.

generalszabo said:

Was her beat down more shocking than the one at the start of avengers? It's all just PG 13 violence to me, it doesn't matter if she's beating up a guy or a girl or of she's getting hit by a man or woman

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I agree here. I do think that part of the "shock" is looking at it at a more prejudiced lens. If you were aware of the "agenda" while watching this, you'd probably start seeing things as if it were the "agenda" being pushed to you. Maybe it was intentionally shown that way to reflect Weinstein and other abusive men like him, maybe it was meant to reflect domestic abuse, but if you weren't aware of the agenda, then it is no different to that general slapping her around while she was tied to a chair in Avengers Assemble.

jye4ever said:

I’m just going to come out and admit it I got choked up during the post credits scene when she put her head on the gravestone their relationship was that well structured but then in true MCU fashion the moment was quickly ruined by humor lol

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Hahaha yeah even on my re-watch last night with my family I got choked up on this moment. That said, this is the first post credits scene that ties directly to a series. Looks like D+ shows will become very relevant from now on. It might start getting tough to follow for a lot of normal folks.

Was it a empty grave though..thought her body was back in the other dimension ..forgot the name of the planet

guyver1 said:

Was it a empty grave though..thought her body was back in the other dimension ..forgot the name of the planet

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It was, and to me it only added to the emotional impact of the scene.

I do wish they let the weight of that scene linger a bit more before they had that "funny" part happen.

e30ernest said:

I agree here. I do think that part of the "shock" is looking at it at a more prejudiced lens. If you were aware of the "agenda" while watching this, you'd probably start seeing things as if it were the "agenda" being pushed to you. Maybe it was intentionally shown that way to reflect Weinstein and other abusive men like him, maybe it was meant to reflect domestic abuse, but if you weren't aware of the agenda, then it is no different to that general slapping her around while she was tied to a chair in Avengers Assemble.

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I didn't think about any 'agenda' when I saw that scene; it did seem a helluva lot more gritty and violent than the A1 interrogation, but in a hard-edged spy movie way, same when she broke her own nose.

If anything it reminded me a bit of the badass in the comics. Not that it happened by choice, but she was immobilized and underwent some kind of impromptu surgical procedure in one issue (I can't remember the particulars) -- because in the comics she's enhanced, as I remember it she was paralyzed but could feel everything. She kind of shook it off with a scowl afterwards because she's a frightening badass.

I also think in one Marvel story Cap straight up kills her with a shield to the jaw/skull and makes Spider-Man sad.

Nope don’t agree she was clearly having her Me Too revenge moment mocking Drakov Weinstein’s manhood.

jye4ever said:

Nope don’t agree she was clearly having her Me Too revenge moment mocking Drakov Weinstein’s manhood.

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You may be right, I just didn't see it.

ZE_501 said:

You may be right, I just didn't see it.

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I only started seeing it when Jye mentioned it here.

jye4ever said:

Nope don’t agree she was clearly having her Me Too revenge moment mocking Drakov Weinstein’s manhood.

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What she say about his manhood? Did she described it?

It really was a recreation of the Loki scene. It had more impact with the toll she had to endure in order to win. They did go all out with the victimization though.