Avengers: Infinity War - (warning: Spoilers)

[Buttmunch]

Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

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I cannot remember, but did Rocket and Groot vanish?

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just Groot. Rocket is the sole remaining Guardian

 

[batfan08]

Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

Does anyone else think it would be awesome if...

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Marvel completely subverted everyone’s expectations and all the changes stuck? If Black Panther 2 created an entirely new dynamic where we were watching Wakanda pick up the pieces post-Infinity War with Shuri as next in line to the throne reluctantly taking up the mantle of the Black Panther, if Spider-Man 2 has Miles Morales as the new Spider-Man, the next Doctor Strange having Wong trying to reconcile himself as the new Sorcerer Supreme, and Guardians of the Galaxy vol. 3 pulling an about-face and flipping the comics timeline on its head so that Peter and his crew were the original Guardians and the second iteration of the team is Stallone and his crew of Ravagers. I imagine everybody would lose their ****, but no one would ever be able to accuse Marvel of not having any balls, anymore.

 

[ShadowX81]

Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

The previous 18 films were the build up. This film only has those things you want because of the establishment of the previous films. This film only worked because they laid the ground work. They didn’t have time to explain everything and introduce everyone. Just a mega comic cross over, they expect you to know everyone and what their connections are. This film is unprecedented in that regard. It is only able to stand alone because of the previous 18 films setting it up - just as this is setting up Dust in the Wind, or whatever they call Avengers 4.

But you cannot rely on all the previous films for character moment groundwork when most of them are in very different places in thier lives since we last spent time with them, and we are expected to connect to who they are now. Captain America is a great example. Where is his head at now? How has his values changed since he dropped his moniker? Where has he and his crew even been for the past couple years? These are all very important questions for character building, but we dont get any answers. He's just sort of there.

Characters that haven't even met yet or have very important dramatic baggage left over from previous films have all character growth tossed aside just to squeeze in another fight scene.

Imagine in the first Avengers if they had just thrown everyone together and told them to instantly work as a team because there was a supervillain that needed to be stopped. Makes logical sense, but also eliminates all character or drama in the movie. That's basically what this was.

Both Civil War and Age of Ultron managed to have places where the action slowed down and we had room to explore the characters so we actually cared when things started going boom around them. This film had none of that. It felt like a Michael Bay movie or Justice League that tried to give itself a pass on its writing flaws based on the good graces of its predecessors. Explosions after explosions after explosions.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

Just got home from my second viewing damn it’s 2am i’ve been up for almost 22 hours.

My favorite comedic moment was the “I am groot” and Cap’s return greeting of “I’m Steve Rogers” loved it.

Man did I think Stark was going to die but nope lol

Sold out again even the neck bending front row seats were occupied I never see that.

 

[Buttmunch]

Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

But you cannot rely on all the previous films for character moment groundwork when most of them are in very different places in thier lives since we last spent time with them, and we are expected to connect to who they are now. Captain America is a great example. Where is his head at now? How has his values changed since he dropped his moniker? Where has he and his crew even been for the past couple years? These are all very important questions for character building, but we dont get any answers. He's just sort of there.

Characters that haven't even met yet or have very important dramatic baggage left over from previous films have all character growth tossed aside just to squeeze in another fight scene.

Imagine in the first Avengers if they had just thrown everyone together and told them to instantly work as a team because there was a supervillain that needed to be stopped. Makes logical sense, but also eliminates all character or drama in the movie. That's basically what this was.

Both Civil War and Age of Ultron managed to have places where the action slowed down and we had room to explore the characters so we actually cared when things started going boom around them. This film had none of that. It felt like a Michael Bay movie or Justice League that tried to give itself a pass on its writing flaws based on the good graces of its predecessors. Explosions after explosions after explosions.

I felt they managed to squeeze that in the

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Secretary Ross conference call scene. It’s been a rough time for Cap’s team, but he is still putting the good of the world first. Just before that, he’s helping Vision, who was on Iron Man’s side in Civil War. Just like Vision picking up Thor’s hammer in AoU, that little moment says a lot without actually stopping and explaining it. Cap isn’t going to put personal issues ahead of saving people. Inevitably, we’ll see Iron Man and Csp face each other in A4. I think that will even show Tony moving past their quarrel and move forward together. It wasn’t by luck they both survived the snap.

There obviously wasn’t much quite time in this film but the times where it was, there was actually quite a bit of development and resolution between characters IMO. I didn’t feel like obvious issues were ignored, but they didn’t waste any time they didn’t have to. The acknowledge Banner has been gone for a while but they don’t stop to explain it - they know the audience watched Ragnarok. Falcon spoke for everyone about the awkward reunion, but it’s obvious they can deal with that later so they move on. Something like that could have been drawn out and resolved but because it wasn’t, it only adds to the urgency of the situation. I’m sure they will eventually resolve stuff these loose ends but that isn’t what this film was about. It really was like A1 in that setting aside differences and coming together for the greater good is what is important.

I understand where you are coming from though. It’s a fast paced film with TONS going on. They had a lot to fit in and they cut some corners where they could, but I would say they did a fair job in the end. They focused most of their quiet moments on Thanos and I think that was the best choice seeing as he’s basically the only new character here. I suspect A4 will have the closure you were wanting here. Despite what has been said officially, this really is just part 1 of a larger story.

 

[matticus]

Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

Forget characterization. Just go for suspense and action. I don't hear about Batman Begins. I hear about TDK and TWS. This movie was awesome.

 

[Rulk]

Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

BEST.MOVIE.EVER.MADE

My heart is so full

#ThanosdemandsThorsPubes

 

[Rulk]

Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

I cried

I feel happy and like I’ve been kicked in the stomach

Excellent characterization and story arcs

Thanos was deep

 

[Rulk]

Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

No one but Brolin..

Honest to Gawd he was born to play that role

Beautiful fight scenes... my gawd it’s good to be alive to witness such a masterpiece

 

[greygoose]

Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

I really liked all those points too. Besides all the obvious “problems,” they did a great job setting up the conclusion (avengers 4). I also really hope to see Ebony Maw in future movies. Who voice acted the black order? I never figured out who they were. Strange and Thor definitely seemed to be the strongest two of the movie.

Yep. Strange and Thor were both great in the movie.

 

[Rotfish]

Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

Forget characterization. Just go for suspense and action. I don't hear about Batman Begins. I hear about TDK and TWS. This movie was awesome.

These are good movies. Well-written, well-cut, and not overstuffed. There's breathing room that allows the suspense to, you know, build.

Infinity War is not the same.

 

[Theokan]

Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

But you cannot rely on all the previous films for character moment groundwork when most of them are in very different places in thier lives since we last spent time with them, and we are expected to connect to who they are now. Captain America is a great example. Where is his head at now? How has his values changed since he dropped his moniker? Where has he and his crew even been for the past couple years? These are all very important questions for character building, but we dont get any answers. He's just sort of there.

Characters that haven't even met yet or have very important dramatic baggage left over from previous films have all character growth tossed aside just to squeeze in another fight scene.

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You have to remember that Cap and Tony didn't actually speak to each other the entire time during the movie, Tony hesitated to call Cap when Thanos' children arrived, he missed his chance and that was it. He's now in space and have no way to contact Earth, and Cap doesn't know where Tony is, literally nothing has changed since Civil War, so there shouldn't be any development between them until the next one where they finally meet up and make amend.

This movie isn't about the Avengers, Thanos is the main focus here. You do get character building, but only on Thanos, this story is 100% about him, from backstory to character building, loosing a loved one, and finally reaching his end goal. They even show you that Thanos is different from someone like Red Skull, and that he's probably the most worthy person to wield the six stones, heroes included.

Cap gets the right amount of screen time as a human trying to protect the mind stone, he isn't any one special within the context of the movie.

The next one will have Cap and Tony finally meeting up since Civil War, and a lot of development and explanations about the Avengers' past will happen there.

 

[Captain Clown]

Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

No one but Brolin..

Honest to Gawd he was born to play that role

Yeah, he really bulked up for this.

 

[MaulFan]

Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

I’m back to this thread after a long break to avoid spoilers and so glad I did. I knew this movie would be full of surprises and wanted to experience the surprise, and I did, a few times I even turned to my girlfriend and said whoah I didn’t see that coming. This movie met all my expectations, the action, the mixing of characters for the first time. I felt like the humor was very well handled so as not to detract from the overall serious tone but keep things sufficiently lighthearted.

There were a few moments where I totally geeked out as much as I did in Avengers 1, between the music and the surprise of the moment.

The only negative for me is having to wait a year for the resolution.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

The charge into battle had me screaming 'YESSSS!!!' out loud in the theatre. Loved Cap and Panther leading the way.

The next year will be very exciting here. If set pics are anything to go by we could be getting some great 2.0's.

 

[Thomascrown17]

Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

You know what. They did such a good job with Thanos I im only now realizing those TWO avengers never met wow lol.


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[YoNoSe]

Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

My favorite comedic moment was the “I am groot” and Cap’s return greeting of “I’m Steve Rogers” loved it.

My favorite was "I'm gonna get that arm."

 

[Otomofan]

Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

Was that blond chick that flirts with Cap but never bones him in this?

Poor bastard really needs to get laid. It's been what, like 80 years? Assuming he wasn't still a virgin when he got frozen?

 

[Chakor]

Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

Well... I LOVED it.

To be able to orchestrate a semblance of a movie with all these characters and relationships... got to tip my hat to the Russos.

Movie wasted no time. Moved fast and kept the pedal to the metal. Definitely high on the re-watchability scale.

Best experience I've had from Marvel since the first Guardians of the Galaxy.



Highlights:

Doctor Strange was bad ass -- I never saw his standalone so wasn't sure what to expect.

Ebony Maw rules. Better than all other IW villains, even Thanos, sorry.

Despite Maw, Thanos was great. He is finally the great villain the MCU has needed for so long. Still don't like his casual-wear.

Loved when they almost "caught" Thanos, until you-know-who screwed up.

This review caught me off guard. I thought for sure you'd hate this one because of how messy it was structure-wise.

 

[MaulFan]

Re: AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR - (April 27, 2018)

Despite knowing a sequel was coming, they did such a good job of making you think at a few points the fight was won because you couldn’t conceive in the moment how it could go any other way.

I will say I was let down that the group shot from the trailer was fake, and I’m curious to see where the 3 part Banner/Hulk arc ends in Avengers 4, while screen time bothered me, I do feel that between Ragnarok and now this, they’re exploring some interesting things.

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Hated Loki dying but thought it was well handled and loved him using Stark’s words, we have a Hulk.