Deak Starkiller
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Spoiler:The guy was corrupted for a while started as a young boy, was shipped off to his uncle by his mom who lied to his father about what she knew, was then trained by his uncle who was the most powerful Jedi known to exist, and the completely turned by Snoke. He is the first dark side user we have seen who actually has multiple family members alive and out there that he actually knows about. All of the ones we have seen prior either have no more family or was taken as a young child and has no knowledge of them. Kylo Ren is literally what young Anakin should have been.
People who keep regurgitating this "emo" "bratty" "spoiled" garbage clearly misunderstand the character completely and should be required by law to read the Novelization.
Spoiler:The guy was corrupted for a while started as a young boy, was shipped off to his uncle by his mom who lied to his father about what she knew, was then trained by his uncle who was the most powerful Jedi known to exist, and the completely turned by Snoke. He is the first dark side user we have seen who actually has multiple family members alive and out there that he actually knows about. All of the ones we have seen prior either have no more family or was taken as a young child and has no knowledge of them. Kylo Ren is literally what young Anakin should have been.
Spoiler:Snoke: "I have never had a student with such promise-before you"
Kylo: "It is your teaching that make me strong, Supreme Leader."
Snoke: "It is far more than that. It is where you are from. What you are made of. The dark side, and the light. The finest sculptor cannot fashion a masterpiece from poor materials. He must have something pure, something strong, something unbreakable, with which to work. I have you."
Snoke: "Kylo Ren, I watched the Galactic Empire rise, and then fall. The gullible prattle on about the triumph of truth and justive, of individualism and free will. As if such things were solid and real instead of simple subjective judgements. The historians have it all wrong. It was neither poor strategy nor arrogance that brought down the empire. You know too well what did."
Kylo: "Sentiment"
Snoke: "The elements align, Kylo Ren. You alone are caught in the wings of the storm. Your bond is not just to Vader, but to Skywalker himself. Leia..."
And then later in the book;
Leia: He knew our child would be strong with the Force. That he was born with equal potential for good or evil.
Han: "You knew this from the beginning? Why didn't you tell me?"
Leia: "Many reasons. I was hoping that I was wrong, that it wasn't true. I hoped I could sway him, turn him away from the dark side, without having to involve you. You had, you gave, wonderful qualitied Han, but patience and understanding were never among them. I was afraid your reactions would only drive him father to the dark side. I thought I could shield him from Snoke's influence and you from what was happening."
Han: "So Snoke was watching our son."
Leia: Always. From the shadows, in the beginning, even before I realized what was happening, he was manipulating everything, pulling our son toward the dark side."
So basically Snoke targeted him as a young boy to corrupt, and then did so. Or at least began to.
I just downloaded the audiobook. I'll listen to it over the next few days. See what was missing from the movie.
I'm about an hour into the audiobook. Ok so far.
I'm about an hour into the audiobook. Ok so far.
Other than some additional dialogue about Lor San Tekka there isn't much new until about 3 hours into the audio version.
People who keep regurgitating this "emo" "bratty" "spoiled" garbage clearly misunderstand the character completely and should be required by law to read the Novelization.
A second headsculpt with a sliced up face.
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