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A couple weeks won't kill you..act like the worlds ending because somebody gets a statue before you :lol

My point was that I don't think there is a rhyme or reason to how they choose which customers go into which batch. I was in first batch for batman, and I was on single payment, so I don't think SS intentionally caters to flex pay customers. I think it's random.
 
My point was that I don't think there is a rhyme or reason to how they choose which customers go into which batch. I was in first batch for batman, and I was on single payment, so I don't think SS intentionally caters to flex pay customers. I think it's random.

You keep going over and over with this stuff man. Just WAIT.



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My point was that I don't think there is a rhyme or reason to how they choose which customers go into which batch. I was in first batch for batman, and I was on single payment, so I don't think SS intentionally caters to flex pay customers. I think it's random.

Bmutha I was providing a rationale as to why it would make sense for Sideshow to cater to flex paying customers. I apologize if my original post came across as a declaration that Sideshow absolutely, positively caters to flex paying customers. There are inherent advantages for any business to receive a portion of their sale proceeds prior to completing the actual job / sale.

I have spent 20 years in Commercial Banking either lending to or approving loan requests for manufacturers like Sideshow. I have listened to Controllers and other Finance people talk about the advantages of receiving a portion of sales proceeds in advance. It's not a totally risk free proposition...Sideshow may receive your cash in advance, and they are free to use that cash as they wish, but there is still an offsetting liability (unearned revenues) sitting on their balance sheet. Obviously Sideshow still needs to make sure all flex payers receive their statues or they are obligated to give the money back.

But think about it, as a business owner if you receive a portion or all the sales proceeds up front...that is a huge advantage. You are not as dependent on Banks for working capital lines of credit. As a business, if you are not borrowing as much from banks, the amount of interest expense you pay on an annual basis is less. This translates to more of your revenues flowing to the bottom line. Think about the freedom of being able to invest those funds, and earn a nice rate of return prior to having complete the sale. Not only does Sideshow earn the profit margins embedded in the cost of their statues, but they could also generate interest income from investing your pre-payments. And even if you elect to cancel your flex pay agreement....I believed you are charged a fee. So at the very least, Sideshow earns the cancellation fee and is free to sell your statue to someone else on another flex pay agreement. My whole point was there is incentive for Sideshow to encourage more of their customers to use flex pay. Therefore I would not blame Sideshow if they made a conscious decision to include more flex payers in the first batch of shipments.

IMHO flex pay agreements are good for Sideshow and beneficial for customers as well. Flex pay allows many customers to budget for their purchases...which is a good thing. I know a number of fellow collectors that are leveraged to the hilt with credit card debt from engaging in this hobby. The only downside of the flex pay agreement for customers is an opportunity cost. In other words, by giving your money to Sideshow in advance, it obviously prevents you from using it to do other things such as reduce any interest earning obligations you may have (mortgage, car payments, credit cards) and/or you are unable to invest those funds and earn your own rate of return.
 
Bmutha I was providing a rationale as to why it would make sense for Sideshow to cater to flex paying customers. I apologize if my original post came across as a declaration that Sideshow absolutely, positively caters to flex paying customers. There are inherent advantages for any business to receive a portion of their sale proceeds prior to completing the actual job / sale.

I have spent 20 years in Commercial Banking either lending to or approving loan requests for manufacturers like Sideshow. I have listened to Controllers and other Finance people talk about the advantages of receiving a portion of sales proceeds in advance. It's not a totally risk free proposition...Sideshow may receive your cash in advance, and they are free to use that cash as they wish, but there is still an offsetting liability (unearned revenues) sitting on their balance sheet. Obviously Sideshow still needs to make sure all flex payers receive their statues or they are obligated to give the money back.

But think about it, as a business owner if you receive a portion or all the sales proceeds up front...that is a huge advantage. You are not as dependent on Banks for working capital lines of credit. As a business, if you are not borrowing as much from banks, the amount of interest expense you pay on an annual basis is less. This translates to more of your revenues flowing to the bottom line. Think about the freedom of being able to invest those funds, and earn a nice rate of return prior to having complete the sale. Not only does Sideshow earn the profit margins embedded in the cost of their statues, but they could also generate interest income from investing your pre-payments. And even if you elect to cancel your flex pay agreement....I believed you are charged a fee. So at the very least, Sideshow earns the cancellation fee and is free to sell your statue to someone else on another flex pay agreement. My whole point was there is incentive for Sideshow to encourage more of their customers to use flex pay. Therefore I would not blame Sideshow if they made a conscious decision to include more flex payers in the first batch of shipments.

IMHO flex pay agreements are good for Sideshow and beneficial for customers as well. Flex pay allows many customers to budget for their purchases...which is a good thing. I know a number of fellow collectors that are leveraged to the hilt with credit card debt from engaging in this hobby. The only downside of the flex pay agreement for customers is an opportunity cost. In other words, by giving your money to Sideshow in advance, it obviously prevents you from using it to do other things such as reduce any interest earning obligations you may have (mortgage, car payments, credit cards) and/or you are unable to invest those funds and earn your own rate of return.

Jesus! After reading this I feel like I just completed a college course. Lol
 
Therefore I would not blame Sideshow if they made a conscious decision to include more flex payers in the first batch of shipments.

Good post, and I agree for the most part. I'm just not entirely sure that shipping to flexpayers first was some premeditated move to encourage people to use flexpay going forward. Clearly, they benefit from flexpay, and lately they've been offering longer plans with smaller payments to entice people to buy. But for them to deliberately plan their shipments to prioritize flexpayers, so as to entice the rest of us to use flexpay for future purchases, they'd have to assume that this exact conversation would take place on the message boards. The only reason we're even talking about this is because we're impatient mo-fos spending our days trying to determine exactly when we're getting our pieces, and it's only though a series of inquiries from some more enthusiastic collectors that we've determined that flexpayers are getting served out of this first batch. If this is part of some bigger scheme to get people to use flexpay, that's some intense puppet-master type marketing.

All we know for certain is that *some* flexpayers are getting served out of this first batch, and there may be some mundane logistical reason that we're not privy to behind it.
 
I absolutely agree and understand why Sideshow would want to get more money up front (yet, strangely, they don't allow 100% prepay upon PO). I just want to know whether, in fact, Sideshow will be catering to flex pay customers in the future.

I don't think there is anything wrong with trying to find out what is going on with our orders.

P.S. I'm clearly annoyed and in a bad mood...apologies of my venting is offending anyone.
 
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Jesus! After reading this I feel like I just completed a college course. Lol


Here ya go Tavegg. Congratz! :lecture

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Really comes down to replacements. The earlier you are in the pecking order is a huge advantage if something is wrong. For as big as the Batman ES us, they ran out of replacements fairly quick.
 
I'd like to add in that I would rather SSC accept PayPal on PO. With bill me later I wouldn't have to worry about shelling out cash for the item until next month or make payments for 6/12 months, if I so choose. In fact, they should do it and do it like Hollywood Collectors Group (HCG); they allow PayPal on PO but you have the choice of paying for the full thing through PayPal, in which you can use Bill Me Later,or just charging the monthly payments to your PayPal-again using Bill Me Later account to spread the payment. And by using Bill Me Later you are not tied to a certain payment monthly you can pay whatever you want. Of course, the down side is you have to pay it off before 6 or 12 month or you will be paying accrued interest.


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Bmutha I was providing a rationale as to why it would make sense for Sideshow to cater to flex paying customers. I apologize if my original post came across as a declaration that Sideshow absolutely, positively caters to flex paying customers. There are inherent advantages for any business to receive a portion of their sale proceeds prior to completing the actual job / sale.

I have spent 20 years in Commercial Banking either lending to or approving loan requests for manufacturers like Sideshow. I have listened to Controllers and other Finance people talk about the advantages of receiving a portion of sales proceeds in advance. It's not a totally risk free proposition...Sideshow may receive your cash in advance, and they are free to use that cash as they wish, but there is still an offsetting liability (unearned revenues) sitting on their balance sheet. Obviously Sideshow still needs to make sure all flex payers receive their statues or they are obligated to give the money back.

But think about it, as a business owner if you receive a portion or all the sales proceeds up front...that is a huge advantage. You are not as dependent on Banks for working capital lines of credit. As a business, if you are not borrowing as much from banks, the amount of interest expense you pay on an annual basis is less. This translates to more of your revenues flowing to the bottom line. Think about the freedom of being able to invest those funds, and earn a nice rate of return prior to having complete the sale. Not only does Sideshow earn the profit margins embedded in the cost of their statues, but they could also generate interest income from investing your pre-payments. And even if you elect to cancel your flex pay agreement....I believed you are charged a fee. So at the very least, Sideshow earns the cancellation fee and is free to sell your statue to someone else on another flex pay agreement. My whole point was there is incentive for Sideshow to encourage more of their customers to use flex pay. Therefore I would not blame Sideshow if they made a conscious decision to include more flex payers in the first batch of shipments.

IMHO flex pay agreements are good for Sideshow and beneficial for customers as well. Flex pay allows many customers to budget for their purchases...which is a good thing. I know a number of fellow collectors that are leveraged to the hilt with credit card debt from engaging in this hobby. The only downside of the flex pay agreement for customers is an opportunity cost. In other words, by giving your money to Sideshow in advance, it obviously prevents you from using it to do other things such as reduce any interest earning obligations you may have (mortgage, car payments, credit cards) and/or you are unable to invest those funds and earn your own rate of return.

I just love it when someone posts a wall of text basically giving their resume as to why their speculation why company X is doing something is more accurate then someone else's speculation is. FWIW, the Batman PF orders started out the exact same way. Flex pay people got their notices first, but a lot of the rest of us who ordered early still had theirs shipped in the first batch, we just got our shipping notices on the day of shipping, not the day of final payment. Until these things actually show as shipped and/or they start arriving in people's hands there really is no point in speculating who's is getting shipped when. Let's talk about something more useful like edition size :rotfl
 
FWIW, the Batman PF orders started out the exact same way. Flex pay people got their notices first, but a lot of the rest of us who ordered early still had theirs shipped in the first batch, we just got our shipping notices on the day of shipping, not the day of final payment. Until these things actually show as shipped and/or they start arriving in people's hands there really is no point in speculating who's is getting shipped when.

Well according to SS Alex..The first batch is for the Flex payer's and second batch is gonna be for the one timer's..
 
Well according to SS Alex..The first batch is for the Flex payer's and second batch is gonna be for the one timer's..

Yeah I keep seeing you post that. I believe something similar was also said when the same thing was happening when Batman started shipping. I was among this complaining that they should ship in the order that people ordered, and when all was said and done that is exactly how they shipped.
 
Yeah I keep seeing you post that. I believe something similar was also said when the same thing was happening when Batman started shipping. I was among this complaining that they should ship in the order that people ordered, and when all was said and done that is exactly how they shipped.

Hey man I'm just relaying the info :lol...But hey, if that's what happens this time with Supes, that would be awesome...I really hope it does..
 
I found the flex pay cancelation penalties and it quickly refreshed my memory why I have never chosen to flex pay.

flex pay said:
Due to the increased administrative costs of the Flex Pay option, Sideshow will charge Flex Pay customers a cancellation fee when a flex pay order is canceled by the customer or by Sideshow (due to a credit card decline, incomplete shipping info, etc.).

Fee chart
The fee will be $20.00 for cancellations occurring 48 hours after order placement up until the first payment date, $40.00 for cancellations occurring after the first payment and before the second payment date, and $60.00 for cancellations occurring after the second payment and before the third payment date. (The fees are based on a average three payment plan of $199 or more, but fees may increase with number of payments.) If the item’s cost is less then $199, the cancellation fees will be reduced in proportion to the item’s SRP.
Payment plans with Non-refundable Deposits (NRD)
If an item requires a non-refundable deposit combined with a payment plan, then the NRD will take the place of the cancellation fee schedule listed above.

When fees are charged
The cancellation fee will be charged directly to the customer’s credit card within five business days after the order cancellation.

Card disputes /charge backs
By choosing the Flex Pay option when placing your order, you will be agreeing to pay any applicable cancellation fee. This is clearly noted on the item’s ordering page as well as during check out. We strongly suggest that you read the terms before agreeing to the contract. Non-payment of cancellation fees will result in the suspension of your online account until any outstanding cancellation fees are paid in full. Credit card companies submitting charge back disputes on behalf of a Flex Pay collector, will be given a copy of the legal agreement that they entered into, resulting in a dismissal of the dispute. All accounts that have submitted charge backs are temporarily disabled, in order to avoid further billing and shipping issues, while charge disputes are being resolved.
 
it's not a problem if you're sure you want something

Yeah, if only I was psychic and knew exactly what was going to happen to me financially two years after my order date. When I order something I generally have the money in hand, yet sideshow won't take full payment. So my other choices are flex pay, which if I have a financial emergency a year or so later I could conceivably incur a penalty of $60-$100 plus my NRD, or I can choose to pay in full later and possibly incur just the NRD. It makes little financial sense to flex pay. You are better off putting the money away in a savings account and paying in full when it's due.
 
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