Hot Toys- Batman Begins:Batman Demon & Scarecrow spec and pics

[BISHART]

i think they look great. and i really want them

 

[Sachiel]

I don't really get why everyone wants these figures. The price is outrageous, the sculpts mediocre and the extras stingy.

You just want them to go down in price so you could afford them.

 

[Tick-Tock]

I can afford them, I can also afford to buy $50 toilet paper but I'm not going to. Why do people think the price will go down? Has this ever happened in the history of Hot Toys? Seems like prices only go up.

 

[karamazov80]

Has this ever happened in the history of Hot Toys?

Yes. . .

But this isn't comparable to any previous Hot Toys release, because these are essentially mass-produced figures being marketed as rare exclusives, and being sold through middle men who are trying to capitalize on the sham. Prices are and will continue to go down as the market begins to recognize the actual supply available.

 

[Tick-Tock]

Yes. . .

But this isn't comparable to any previous Hot Toys release, because these are essentially mass-produced figures being marketed as rare exclusives, and being sold through middle men who are trying to capitalize on the sham. Prices are and will continue to go down as the market begins to recognize the actual supply available.

Interesting. The guy at Toys Squared has definitely jacked his prices up lately. Considering how much he charges for shipping I won't be buying from him any time soon.

 

[Seditionary]

Yes. . .

But this isn't comparable to any previous Hot Toys release, because these are essentially mass-produced figures being marketed as rare exclusives, and being sold through middle men who are trying to capitalize on the sham. Prices are and will continue to go down as the market begins to recognize the actual supply available.

4000 is a very large number.

 

[DiFabio]

Prices are dropping as we speak. Search "Hot Toys Batman", "Hot Toys Demon", and "Hot Toys Scarecrow" and look at how many come up.

Pretty surprising for a LIMITED EDITION, ONE TIME ONLY, RARE EXCLUSIVE.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Is $100 a good price for each figure?

 

[DiFabio]

Why, do you see some place that has it for that much? If so show me and I'll tell you.

 

[karamazov80]

Yeah, if I can buy them for that price, then I'll tell you

 

[DiFabio]

 

[gotham_collector87]

Is there any chance that some shops in the US will get these maybe like Alter Ego or BBTS? I really like this set but don't like eBay that much and don't want to spend the 50-60 shipping

 

[Wor-Gar]

Why, do you see some place that has it for that much? If so show me and I'll tell you.

Yeah, if I can buy them for that price, then I'll tell you

Thanks guys. I'll let you know.

 

[aussieinnyc]

Not that it matters much I guess, but while I understand wanting to get the best price, I don't quite understand how it's become almost the sole focus of this thread. I mean, I found my one at a price I was willing to pay, so I bought it. Could I have got it cheaper if I'd waited? Yeah, probably, but I was willing to pay the amount I did so I'm not going to waste time complaining about it. I'd be much more unhappy if I'd missed out because I tried to find the best deal than if I paid more than ultimately I had to.

Here's my crappy iPhone pic of my rather cramped display. Definitely only have space to replace 89 Catwoman with Nolan's when she's eventually released, so Nolan's gunna have to not include Bane after all!

 

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Not that it matters much I guess, but while I understand wanting to get the best price, I don't quite understand how it's become almost the sole focus of this thread. I mean, I found my one at a price I was willing to pay, so I bought it. Could I have got it cheaper if I'd waited? Yeah, probably, but I was willing to pay the amount I did so I'm not going to waste time complaining about it. I'd be much more unhappy if I'd missed out because I tried to find the best deal than if I paid more than ultimately I had to.
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I see it the same way actually. The figures look badass to me. There are no better ones out there, not at the moment anyway.

 

[karamazov80]

I'd be much more unhappy if I'd missed out because I tried to find the best deal than if I paid more than ultimately I had to.

No one's gonna "miss out" on this, though. If something is 20-40% overpriced, I think it is worth discussing why. And I personally like speculating on price trends. But if you don't, post more pictures and thoughts while the rest of us bide out time. This thread could definitely use more detailed reviews of this guy.

 

[DiFabio]

Well I just found out something horrible and distasteful. I bid on a few sets that were relatively in the price range I'm seeking ($350-$399 shipped).

I waited until the last second, like I usually do to snipe bid. TWO bidders somehow managed to bid while I was watching at the 30 second mark. I see the price go out of my range, refresh to see what it ends for ONLY to see the price go back down.

Low and behold, there are shill bidders in most of the auctions. I went back and looked at previous auctions, mostly studiosunnies and there seems to be alteast two people that bid to see what the highest bidder has bid, only to retract their bid seconds later and put in a total right under the top amount.

They're basically bidding to find the top price, then pulling out and rebidding to keep it right under the top bidder. That way, they don't win and the auction goes for as high as it possibly can go.

What a ____ing dirty tactic and what's worse, this may very well be the sellers or friends of the sellers.

Buyer beware indeed.

 

[karamazov80]

Doesn't surprise me. Seems like guys in Hong Kong are more inclined, in general, to disregard eBay rules than others. And technically, they aren't forcing people to do anything they don't want to (if you bid that high, presumably, you are willing to pay that much), but they are contributing to the artificial inflation in the price of these figures that we've been seeing. Only when folks decide not to just give HK sellers what they are asking are we gonna see prices really drop. But I think, slowly, that this has to happen. You can only fool the market for so long.

 

[DiFabio]

Oh yeah, I agree.

The prices are coming down, slowly but surely. I've been feeling more and more confident that I'll be able to obtain a set at a "fair" price. Each day it seems prices are dropping a bit. Today most of them ended in the $350 dollar range instead of getting bid up to the high $300s, low $400s.

I think patience will pay off. I just wish the "competition", the bidders we bid against in the auction would see it this way though. Go into the auction with your maximum bid in mind and bid, preferably at the last second. If you lose, you lose, if you win, you win. There is PLENTY to go around. I'm just getting sick of seeing the same _____*r (325) or a***h (40) bidding as soon as they see the auction is up, then increasing it each day with small amounts, increasing the demand and competition for items THEY want.

It doesn't make much sense, unless they want to pay more than they have to.

 

[haytil]

Why do people think the price will go down? Has this ever happened in the history of Hot Toys? Seems like prices only go up.

Yes. Price on HT figs always go down in the short-term. They do go rise again, even more, but that takes several months after they're widely available.

These aren't being made widely available, so the trend is being extended in length and slowed down. But the price has consistently fallen over the last month.