What is it about the Predator character in general that attracts people?

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i've always felt that the predator is one of the most believable alien beings to ever grace the silver screen. he just looks and feels totally real. and he has a culture and background that simply clicks, at an intuitive level. a race of ritualistic hunters with a clear code of conduct.

plus he's badass.
 
Same as the others. He's a badass like Boba, Vader (before the prequels) and Terminator. He looks cool and I would add he doesnt "say" a whole lot so there is this wonderful mystery about him....
 
Yeah mystery is good. Hope they never screw that up as they did the force in the star wars prequel trilogy. I didn't care to know that the mysterious cause of it was "bugs".
 
Because thier faces and the design on their head remind me of spiders for some reason and spiders freak me out.
 
I thought that it was pretty obvious that the reason he blew himself up was so that he left little to no trace of his presence behind, but whatever.

Yeah, that was my thought on it as well... sure some sense of an honorable death, but also helps to erase the evidence that he was ever there.

I still don't think that's it. The Predator earlier discarded its mask and weapon in the water before fighting Dutch. If Dutch was able to survive the blast by running a few feet then surely the weapons and mask made it too. With the honor explanation, why would the Predator choose to repeat Billy's laugh? It seemed to understand it and it was certainly fitting for the moment.

I think the film is great, and the character design is very impressive and memorable, but the Predator itself, its nature and how it behaves, when you really think about it is pretty lacking. People kind of misrepresent how it truly appears in the film, it seems to me, with all this after-talk of 'code of conduct,' 'honor,' etc, etc. Re-watching the film just a moment ago I saw a few other things I'd forgotten that make me feel more certain about this. It seems like the Predator half the time basically shoots people in the back of the head. It also seems the gun it has finds targets automatically and so the 'hunt' and 'sport' of the Predator consists of little more than turning invisible and jumping around unseen and every so often pointing its shoulder at people, most frequently when they're resting or looking the other way. At one point, towards the end of the film, the Predator shoots an unarmed and injured man in the back of the head, that's the craziest part. Dutch is trying to drag this guy to safety, he can't walk, and the Predator appears in the tree, invisible, and shoots the guy in the back of the head.

I really wonder if anyone can think of a single moment where the Predator went into a situation where the odds weren't well in its favour.

To think about it really, the Predator, at least going by the first film, is as impressive as a man bragging that he managed to kill a bunch of toddlers, as though this were some great achievement. There's no challenge in what the Predator does. What it does is really no different than me going out into my backyard with a can of fly spray and killing all the ladybugs that I can find, then carefully cutting their little heads off and making a necklace out of them, which I wear like a record of my skill and conquests...

I don't mean to put the character down, I just truly don't understand all this talk of honor and so forth that people always seem to attach to it.
 
I still don't think that's it. The Predator earlier discarded its mask and weapon in the water before fighting Dutch. If Dutch was able to survive the blast by running a few feet then surely the weapons and mask made it too. With the honor explanation, why would the Predator choose to repeat Billy's laugh? It seemed to understand it and it was certainly fitting for the moment.

I think the film is great, and the character design is very impressive and memorable, but the Predator itself, its nature and how it behaves, when you really think about it is pretty lacking. People kind of misrepresent how it truly appears in the film, it seems to me, with all this after-talk of 'code of conduct,' 'honor,' etc, etc. Re-watching the film just a moment ago I saw a few other things I'd forgotten that make me feel more certain about this. It seems like the Predator half the time basically shoots people in the back of the head. It also seems the gun it has finds targets automatically and so the 'hunt' and 'sport' of the Predator consists of little more than turning invisible and jumping around unseen and every so often pointing its shoulder at people, most frequently when they're resting or looking the other way. At one point, towards the end of the film, the Predator shoots an unarmed and injured man in the back of the head, that's the craziest part. Dutch is trying to drag this guy to safety, he can't walk, and the Predator appears in the tree, invisible, and shoots the guy in the back of the head.

I really wonder if anyone can think of a single moment where the Predator went into a situation where the odds weren't well in its favour.

To think about it really, the Predator, at least going by the first film, is as impressive as a man bragging that he managed to kill a bunch of toddlers, as though this were some great achievement. There's no challenge in what the Predator does. What it does is really no different than me going out into my backyard with a can of fly spray and killing all the ladybugs that I can find, then carefully cutting their little heads off and making a necklace out of them, which I wear like a record of my skill and conquests...

I don't mean to put the character down, I just truly don't understand all this talk of honor and so forth that people always seem to attach to it.

The "Billy" laugh at the end was creepy and i LOVED it. It was a cool way for the Predator to say goodbye.


The Predator killed:

Hawkins:a swift blow to the face via his blade...while invisible
Blane:a couple of shoulder cannon blasts to the chest while invisible
Mack: a shoulder cannon blast to the forehead while invisible
Dillon:a shoulder cannon blast to the arm while insvisble and eventually impaled by blades
Billy:if i had to guess he had a hand to hand battle and eventually injuring and throwing billy off the log/bridge
Poncho: shot by mistake in the head...aiming for Dutch.

he shot one character who was unnarmed in the "in the back" head...by mistake. He was aiming for Dutch.

Toddlers (compared to most other newborn species) are the most DEFENSELESS babies on the face of the earth. If it wan't for their parent, the human chaild has ABSOLUTELY NO cHANCE OF SURVIVING ON IT'S OWN. I don't know about you, but these following pictures clearly show the characters had a shot at defending themselves.
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This movie's cast was one of the most muscle bounds casts ever assembled...the only rival is Universal Soldier and Pumping Iron :) this cast is far from "LADYBUGS"


Honor: when it was time for the final battle the Predator could have easily used his TECH to defeat Arnold but he gave him a shot...The Pred's HONOR can also be seen in Predator 2 after Danny Glover killer the Predator. he was encircled by Preds who could';ve easily taken his life but they didn't because it wasn't fair.


DUDE, i can go on and on much like you did....it sounds like you're not a fan of there character...i suggest moving on and not watching the film anymore.

hey, i think AQUAMAN is a flawed character but you don't hear me tearing him down.
 
the Predator itself, its nature and how it behaves, when you really think about it is pretty lacking. People kind of misrepresent how it truly appears in the film, it seems to me, with all this after-talk of 'code of conduct,' 'honor,' etc, etc.

:rolleyes:

nope, when i really think about it, the predator's behavior makes sense and is very well-conceived for the little screen time that he has. sorry u can't get it.


At one point, towards the end of the film, the Predator shoots an unarmed and injured man in the back of the head, that's the craziest part. Dutch is trying to drag this guy to safety, he can't walk, and the Predator appears in the tree, invisible, and shoots the guy in the back of the head.

WRONG. poncho was armed. he pointed his weapon at the predator. so he became fair game and got his head blown off. go watch it again and you'll see.
 
Was it not James Cameron's idea to apply mandibles to this characters design?.
 
yes it was. cameron was on a flight with the late great stan winston, and he showed cameron some early conceptual art for the predator. cameron remarked that he'd always wanted to see a creature with mandibles. and winston subsequently incorporated that into the predator's design.
 
The "Billy" laugh at the end was creepy and i LOVED it. It was a cool way for the Predator to say goodbye.

I like the laugh at the end too. I mentioned it though because it seems to me that it confirms that the Predator thought it was going to wipe out Dutch with the blast.

Toddlers (compared to most other newborn species) are the most DEFENSELESS babies on the face of the earth. If it wan't for their parent, the human chaild has ABSOLUTELY NO cHANCE OF SURVIVING ON IT'S OWN.

This movie's cast was one of the most muscle bounds casts ever assembled...the only rival is Universal Soldier and Pumping Iron :) this cast is far from "LADYBUGS"

I'm not say that Dutch and his crew are children, but in relative terms, when pitted against the Predator, I'd say they are. It would be the same as if Arnold Schwarzenegger in his prime, someone of his size, were to pick a fight with Zac Efron. No one's going to say, 'Wow, that Arnold sure is a badass,' particularly if Arnold fought him while invisible and with a self-aiming gun on his shoulder... And yet that's a frequent compliment we see paid to the Predator.

Toddlers with their inability to run so quickly was not a good example, but to say a ten-year-old, that fits better with what I was trying for...

What did their muscles add? What did they do, with their musclebound bodies, that a ten-year-old in the same situation couldn't also have done?

As to the honor in the Predator putting down its weapons: If I shoot children with a gun and then in the end, alone, decide to try hand-to-hand combat with a child, that doesn't make me honorable, heh. The Predator lifts him off the ground with one hand and his punches do nothing, he's clearly not a match even in the slightest.

nope, when i really think about it, the predator's behavior makes sense and is very well-conceived for the little screen time that he has. sorry u can't get it.

I agree that it makes sense and that everything is fitting, I'm making no argument against that. What I don't understand, and what I'm wondering about, is how people can watch the original film and come away talking about the Predator having 'skills' and an 'honor code' and being a 'badass' and so forth. I watch that film and I see the exact opposite. How can one call the Predator honorable and skilled when its entire method/sport consists of it standing invisible in a tree and shooting people from afar?

What I see in that film is a creature in line with a cat hunting mice, there's no bravery there, no honor, no real risk. It's just a creature killing people with no regard for whether they're even paying attention. The film is still great, with these people trying to evade this creature, but as far as the creature being 'honorable,' etc, and it hunting them because it's a challenge or test of strength, there's nothing like that on screen that I can see. It takes nothing for the Predator to kill people in the way it does.

WRONG. poncho was armed. he pointed his weapon at the predator. so he became fair game and got his head blown off. go watch it again and you'll see.

Yeah, I saw that before. I flicked through it after the other person said the Predator was aiming for Dutch. Still, shot in the back of the head... To the claim that he was aiming for Dutch, the situation still would've been that a man was shot in the back of the head be an invisible creature in a tree…

I feel I'm going too much into this now and so I finish here if others will let me... I began first just wondering if there was any discussion about the Predator blowing itself up, whether that was seen as like a childish tantrum on its part, and then got too much into all after re-watching the film with these sort of thoughts in mind. To end my thoughts/argument here, it is a great film, the creature design is great and how the creature behaves is fine for the film, but when you truly consider some of the things the creature does, and couple that with people saying they are attracted to the Predator because of its 'code of conduct' and 'sense of honor' and 'skills,' it's kind of funny, it seems to me. Going solely by what I see in the film, it seems as illogical as saying, 'What I like about Predator is their gentlemanly nature and their appreciation of a good coffee.'
 
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