12" lotr line on hold

[The Craw]

Maybe if Hobbits were a little more cool this line would have kicked off. Hobbits are just about the gayest thing I have ever heard of. I mean wtf is a halfling lol.

hey!!!!!!!

 

[pixletwin]

I can't imagine why Sideshow can't at least put out Gimli and the remaining Hobbits with a realy low ES that would be a sure sell out (ie maybe ES of 1000?). Even if they jacked the price up to $90 each I would still pay.

 

[thenammagazine]

Nope. Not sure why people believe this. Go look at the pics of the Hobbit costumes. They are not a simple "mix and match" at all. Their costumes are every bit as complicated as anyone else's. new vest, jackets, shirts, scarf, pants, accessories, heads, etc.

Accuracy tossed to the wind, I for one, would buy a Merry and Pippen if the only things they had that were not reused were the head sculpts. It's a hell of a lot easier to customize a figure, than scratchbuild one.

 

[pixletwin]

Accuracy tossed to the wind, I for one, would buy a Merry and Pippen if the only things they had that were not reused were the head sculpts. It's a hell of a lot easier to customize a figure, than scratchbuild one.

and cheaper. Even at $90 a pop.

 

[King Darkness]

I can't imagine why Sideshow can't at least put out Gimli and the remaining Hobbits with a realy low ES that would be a sure sell out (ie maybe ES of 1000?). Even if they jacked the price up to $90 each I would still pay.

Didn't Unky Dave say that Sidshow has to sell 3000 of a figure before the turn a profit?

If indeed these LotR figures are so expensive to make, Sideshow would probably lose a lot if they only sold 1000 of each figure. Even if the jacked up the price.

Its dead, dead dead dead dead.

 

[Entropy]

Accuracy tossed to the wind, I for one, would buy a Merry and Pippen if the only things they had that were not reused were the head sculpts. It's a hell of a lot easier to customize a figure, than scratchbuild one.

I have no interest in a Merry wearing a mix of Frodo and Sam's clothes. One of the great, if not greatest, thing of this line has been the tailoring and attention to detail. I'd rather no figures than half-assed ones. If accuracy isn't an issue, one could always buy the Toybiz Frodo and call him "Merry".

The head sculpts will be the easy part. These costumes will never be simple to cobble together from other sources and look good. We'll have to either have a tailor picking out fabrics and sewing outfits or wait till Sideshow, or someone else returns to the license, to get a decent Merry & Pippin.

 

[thenammagazine]

I have no interest in a Merry wearing a mix of Frodo and Sam's clothes. One of the great, if not greatest, thing of this line has been the tailoring and attention to detail. I'd rather no figures than half-assed ones. If accuracy isn't an issue, one could always buy the Toybiz Frodo and call him "Merry".

The head sculpts will be the easy part. These costumes will never be simple to cobble together from other sources and look good. We'll have to either have a tailor picking out fabrics and sewing outfits or wait till Sideshow, or someone else returns to the license, to get a decent Merry & Pippin.

You missed my point. That point being that I'd rather make a custom Merry and Pippin based off of the quality Sideshow sculpt and Hobbit body than attempt to scratchbuild it from nothing. Again, you'd have the Sideshow headsculpt, matching paint and the hobbit body for consistency.

Didn't Unky Dave say that Sidshow has to sell 3000 of a figure before the turn a profit?

If indeed these LotR figures are so expensive to make, Sideshow would probably lose a lot if they only sold 1000 of each figure. Even if the jacked up the price.

Its dead, dead dead dead dead.

I'm more than certain, with lines like The Dead that don't have any royalties and extremely low overhead, they can siphon enough cash to at least finish the Fellowship. You can't sit there and tell me that the Dinosauria line is really going to do enough business to foot it's own bill. The sculptors may have been completely giddy about the line, but there was a massive collective groan heard all the way across the Freaks forum and even the IRC Chat when they announced it.

 

[pixletwin]

Exactly. MGM made crappy Elvis movies that turned a huge profit so they could make the real art movies they wanted to without worrying to much about profit.

 

[King Darkness]

Well if we are discussing what Sideshow should do with its Dead line profits, ^^^^ LotR, make an Origins Kurgan

Then worry about LotR.

 

[OSCORP]

yes. it would be equivalent of frodo screaming like a girl, throwing the ring up in the air, and running for the hills when the ringwraiths first set upon him in the shire.

Forward that to SS

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

I can't imagine why Sideshow can't at least put out Gimli and the remaining Hobbits with a realy low ES that would be a sure sell out (ie maybe ES of 1000?). Even if they jacked the price up to $90 each I would still pay.

I remember hearing this same thing about the Lone Gunmen from X-Files, Wesley from Angel, Ygor from Universal Monsters, Roy and Jason part 8 from Friday 13th, Rod Serling from Twilight Zone and several others I'm sure I'm forgetting. It's the eternal lament of the prematurely canceled line.

 

[King Darkness]

I remember hearing this same thing about the Lone Gunmen from X-Files, Wesley from Angel, Ygor from Universal Monsters, Roy and Jason part 8 from Friday 13th, Rod Serling from Twilight Zone and several others I'm sure I'm forgetting.

Origins Kurgan

 

[Entropy]

You missed my point. That point being that I'd rather make a custom Merry and Pippin based off of the quality Sideshow sculpt and Hobbit body than attempt to scratchbuild it from nothing. Again, you'd have the Sideshow headsculpt, matching paint and the hobbit body for consistency.

Ah, yes. Something would certainly be better than nothing. A head and body would be a great start. We have the Sam and Frodo wigs - that's a start, won't have to resculpt those.

Problem is, even with an awesome sculpt and great custom clothing one would have to get another 2 Hobbits just for the bods. If we could churn out some proto heads and clothes I bet SS's remaining Frodos and Sam would start to sell out.

 

[pixletwin]

Well if we are discussing what Sideshow should do with its Dead line profits, ^^^^ LotR, make an Origins Kurgan

Then worry about LotR.

I remember hearing this same thing about the Lone Gunmen from X-Files, Wesley from Angel, Ygor from Universal Monsters, Roy and Jason part 8 from Friday 13th, Rod Serling from Twilight Zone and several others I'm sure I'm forgetting. It's the eternal lament of the prematurely canceled line.

Origins Kurgan

 

[Entropy]

God I wish I could trade Faramir for a Sideshow Saruman or Gimli or Merry/Pippin.

anyone would have been better.

 

[Indiana Fett]

God I wish I could trade Faramir for a Sideshow Saruman or Gimli or Merry/Pippin.

anyone would have been better.

I actually really like Faramir. I think he has a cool outfit, and the outfit on the figure is topnotch. A Les/Josh repaint on the head really is a MUST though. While I would rather have Saruman, Gimli or Merry/Pippin instead as well (now that we know we won't get them), I at least have a plan I'm happy with for what we DID get:

Display 1:

Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli (DID/Toybiz bash) as they appeared in TTT.

Display 2:

Frodo, Sam and Gandalf

Display 3:

The brothers Denethor, back to back.

Heck, at least we got all of these guys.

If I'm feeling more ambitious down the road --

Display 4:

3X customized Toybiz Ringwraith

Display 5:

3X customized Orcs (using a recast of the orc head that came with the Boromir exclusive)

 

[thenammagazine]

Well if we are discussing what Sideshow should do with its Dead line profits, ^^^^ LotR, make an Origins Kurgan

Then worry about LotR.

Granted, and while I'd also love a medieval Kurgan, you're forgetting one very important thing. They still HAVE the LOTR license.

 

[Entropy]

I actually really like Faramir. I think he has a cool outfit, and the outfit on the figure is topnotch. A Les/Josh repaint on the head really is a MUST though. While I would rather have Saruman, Gimli or Merry/Pippin instead as well (now that we know we won't get them), I at least have a plan I'm happy with for what we DID get:

That's a great display plan.

I'm not saying Faramir doesn't have an appeal, it's just that he's one of the absolute last characters I'd have picked.

 

[JustinLuck]

I think the line didn't sell as well as expected because:

1) Line moved WAY too slow to keep interest.

2) Paint application and coloring were substandard.

3) Tailoring was weak in some areas.

But I must say the accessories were very cool.

If Sideshow doesn't want to deal with the license, they should offer it to Hot Toys. They are capable of making figures look so good, they will draw people in who haven't seen LOTR...even asians!

 

[pixletwin]

Hot Toys won't touch LOTR since its a weak customer base in Asia.