Which SW character will be the first on a Prometheus body?

[OSCORP]

SW will always have the buck. GI joe will have the pro, methinks.

I'm kinda thinkin the same thing. And it's pretty much BS considering the price hike.

 

[The Craw]

I'm kinda thinkin the same thing. And it's pretty much BS considering the price hike.

personally id like to see this prometheus body in hand before i make any judgments. everybody is saying how great it is but nobody's actually "played" with one. who's to say it doesnt have the same flaws as any other body. SS made those new hobbit bodies and they arent perfect. loose joints everywhere, which is my biggest turn off when it comes to figure bodies. that is my number one gripe with the buck. too many loose joints. if the pro body is gonna be riddled with loose joints then i wont be impressed.

 

[OSCORP]

I think the hobbit body is a case to case thing. At a comic shop near here i saw frodo and sam on display and checked em out and both of the joints were a lot tighter than my frodo.

The pro can't be any worse than the buck, and should rival the HT body. And even if it don't it will still be better than the buck lol.

 

[Puay]

this may be a stupid question, but, what will the difference be in this new body? and are there any figures using it right now?

The first figure on the new body is Indy, the estimate shipping date is published on the Sideshow website, I think its about 2 months time.

Since no one has the figure yet, we don't really know the difference in detail. You can check out the image of the Prometheus at the Sideshow website though.

 

[Puay]

One thing I don't quite understand though. Why is there a price gap between the Buck and the Prometheus?

Assuming both are made of the same material but simply produced with a difference mold. I don't really see the Prometheus using up more material.

I wonder is the manufacturing process more complicated with the Prometheus?

 

[IrishJedi]

One thing I don't quite understand though. Why is there a price gap between the Buck and the Prometheus?

Assuming both are made of the same material but simply produced with a difference mold. I don't really see the Prometheus using up more material.

I wonder is the manufacturing process more complicated with the Prometheus?

Some companies are kind enough to pass their R&D costs onto the consumer.

And if the SW line continues to use the Buck for all non-armored characters, I'll soon be out of it entirely for good. And will probably sell off many of those I have. I refuse to pay modern prices for a painfully outdated figure.

 

[Puay]

Some companies are kind enough to pass their R&D costs onto the consumer.

And if the SW line continues to use the Buck for all non-armored characters, I'll soon be out of it entirely for good. And will probably sell off many of those I have. I refuse to pay modern prices for a painfully outdated figure.

Speaking of R&D. Wouldn't Sideshow be having an easier job by studying what's readily available with the HT and Medicom bodies.

And to be better than them? Hah.

 

[Shalamar]

Speaking of R&D. Wouldn't Sideshow be having an easier job by studying what's readily available with the HT and Medicom bodies.

And to be better than them? Hah.

Licensing Fees. That would be why Sideshow would make their own body. It gives them mroe control over the figures, the ability to freely make adjustments and tweaks sine they 'own' the body. an outsourced body would come with licensing fees more than likely, and if they need something special, it can be difficult or impossible if the owning company isn't interested in making the requested changes.

As well, with Sideshow having their own bodies, they could potentially license the pro out to other companies, if they are interested.

An 'In House' body could also show to various licenses (Star Wars, GI-Joe, etc etc) that Sideshos is VERY serious about the 12" line.

 

[MaulFan]

I can't imagine a conscious decision to only use newer bodies in the SW line where absolutely unavoidable like armor, it's just not smart. If they put out GI Joe and Indy figures with a new body, and the new body really turns out as great as we hope, and the SW line never sees use of it, it'll piss off all the collector's of the Star Wars line and be a total reversal of things. Right now, it's obvious, SW gets the most 1/6 attention and care from SSC, numbers alone tells ya that, but if the body situation turned out that way, it'd look like they don't give a ^^^^ about the SW line or the quality of figures and it'll turn folks off, they're not going to do that. I firmly believe we're still seeing the Buck because we haven't gotten anyone important in the line since the Pro's announcement. To some extent I understand the comments about backlog, but Obi-Wan and Indy were made for Buck's and had their heads modified for the armor and Pro bodies, SSC will update backlog pieces where suited.

Offering up background characters for the die hards at the lowest prices keeps them happy, and then putting the important figures on the newer bodies makes everyone happy. Really, if you're that into SW to buy a Captain Antilles or Rebel Fleet Trooper, you're probably in a mindset where the base body for them is irrellevant to you.

 

[thenammagazine]

I'd say the first Pro Star Wars figure will be one that's been under development for a short period, once the Pro was ready, and a character of importance with a high ES. Since the unveiling of the new body, we've only had low ES background characters and armored important ones. It'll be a Luke or Han or Obi-Wan or Anakin, someone like that where SSC will feel the added cost of the alternate body won't bother collectors. They'll have enough troubles selling Ki-Adi, Fleet Trooper and Captain Antilles at $70 on a Buck, if those guys were like $90 on the Pro, far less folks would be buying them. $90 Obi-Wan Kenobi on a pro from Episode 1 will sell very well.

That's just it. Ki-Adi Mundi, and the Fleet Trooper have both Wait Listed. So will Captain Antilles given enough time. Even given the recent price hike, they'll sell well. I remember hearing similar statements about Aayla Secura and Commander Praji. Both are sold out.

Well, I know the Buck is a deterring factor, but I imagine those background guys would also cost more on the Pro. I think folks griping about the Buck on them want to see them as $70 Pro figures, which I don't think would be the case, I think they're down at $70 because of the Buck.

The strange thing is Belloq being a Pro figure, it makes no sense with him unless they felt his costume would look best on the Pro, hard to say, but it definitely isn't poseability or anything, in that regard he'd be fine on a Buck.

I'm thinking this is to maintain consistency throughout the line. With Indy using the Pro, it'd be odd to have that action figure standing next to someone on a Buck. This decision confirms, to me anyway, that there must be a definite difference between the two, Buck and Pro. If it's significant enough to put a Belloq on it. Using this rational, I think it's safe to say that we'll see Bucks for the remainder of the SW non-armored lines. Which, for consistency's sake, is fine by me.

As for pissing off Star Wars fans, Sideshow does that with EVERY release. People whined about not getting a Vader, then when they do, they whine about it being the ANH version and/or not having a pointing finger, or the choking hand not looking wide enough . I remember all the complaints about Praji. REAL HATE! "Why would you make some insignificant character who has less than 10 seconds of screen time?!" Then it was like, "WTF?! He sold out before I bought one!" They whined about Sideshow making Aayla, but she's since sold out. Same with Ki-Adi-Mundi. "Why waste time on PT figures nobody's gonna buy?!" Yet, again, they've since sold out (and I suspect the Wait Lists will close with few being granted). It really won't matter what body they put the non-armored figures on. For every person who stops buying one, two will rise to the occasion. Star Wars fans are probably the most hating fans of all... but they're also the most loyal.

 

[JustinLuck]

First of all, the Buck is every bit as complicated to manufacture. In fact, it is a more complicated design than the Hot Toys True Type. Cut both into pieces to find the inner workings and you will see the difference.

Secondly, Hot Toys still releases figures like TDK Joker with necks. There is no reason why Sideshow can't do the same for figures that will look better with detailed cervices.

 

[toystales]

As for pissing off Star Wars fans, Sideshow does that with EVERY release. People whined about not getting a Vader, then when they do, they whine about it being the ANH version and/or not having a pointing finger, or the choking hand not looking wide enough . I remember all the complaints about Praji. REAL HATE! "Why would you make some insignificant character who has less than 10 seconds of screen time?!" Then it was like, "WTF?! He sold out before I bought one!" They whined about Sideshow making Aayla, but she's since sold out. Same with Ki-Adi-Mundi. "Why waste time on PT figures nobody's gonna buy?!" Yet, again, they've since sold out (and I suspect the Wait Lists will close with few being granted). It really won't matter what body they put the non-armored figures on. For every person who stops buying one, two will rise to the occasion. Star Wars fans are probably the most hating fans of all... but they're also the most loyal.

I have to agree with you on that. Star Wars fans whine about almost everything but they also buy everything that the manufacturers dish out.

 

[Puay]

Offering up background characters for the die hards at the lowest prices keeps them happy, and then putting the important figures on the newer bodies makes everyone happy.

I too feel this is the best way out.

Hot Toys still releases figures like TDK Joker with necks. There is no reason why Sideshow can't do the same for figures that will look better with detailed cervices.

When head sculpt on the Prometheus comes with the neck on a single piece ( unlike Indy where there is a joint ) , I feel that would better blend into our existing collection of male Bucks.

 

[EVILFACE]

I think the nobody figures like the troopers are fine on the buck.

Being on a Pro isn't going to make me buy a Captain Antilles or a Fleet Trooper.

 

[arnax161]

BOBA FETT on on Prometheus body would RUUUULLLLLEEEE. A Biker Scout or Snow Trooper wouldn't be so shabby either. Here's my custom Hasbro/Dragon/Sideshow Snow Trooper. It sucks, but it must do for now.:emperor

 

[thenammagazine]

BOBA FETT on on Prometheus body would RUUUULLLLLEEEE. A Biker Scout or Snow Trooper wouldn't be so shabby either. Here's my custom Hasbro/Dragon/Sideshow Snow Trooper. It sucks, but it must do for now.:emperor

Boba won't be on the Pro, he'll be on the SS/HT body, so will the scout and the snow trooper.

 

[EVILFACE]

Boba won't be on the Pro, he'll be on the SS/HT body, so will the scout and the snow trooper.

Why would he? He is not covered in armor like a Stromtrooper. He really sint a armored character, just a few pieces. Pro would be find for him.

 

[devilof76]

Stormtroopers, clones and protocol droids (including 4-LOM) are the only characters who would need the armored body.

 

[thenammagazine]

Why would he? He is not covered in armor like a Stromtrooper. He really sint a armored character, just a few pieces. Pro would be find for him.

I agree. But at the same time, Vader also falls into that category too. He has considerably LESS armor than Boba. His only armor really being the shoulder pads and the codpiece. They could've used the large Buck (Freddy vs. Jason's Jason) just as easily. But they didn't. Boba has his whole torso covered, shoulders, forearms, and knees too. So the armored body would do wonders to keep the "bulk" to a minimum and still have the character looking natural and not like some Wookie in Mando armor. I think I remember an "ask Sideshow" where fans were asking them why Boba and Vader hadn't yet been made and their reply was that the new armor bodies were in development.

 

[Puay]

They could've used the large Buck (Freddy vs. Jason's Jason) just as easily. But they didn't. Boba has his whole torso covered, shoulders, forearms, and knees too. So the armored body would do wonders to keep the "bulk" to a minimum and still have the character looking natural and not like some Wookie in Mando armor. I think I remember an "ask Sideshow" where fans were asking them why Boba and Vader hadn't yet been made and their reply was that the new armor bodies were in development.

Its understandable why Sideshow put in their best effort for Vader, considering the important of such a figure to fans.

Imperial troopers that I would love to see turning up on a Prometheus are Snow Troopers and Fighter pilots.