Avatar: The Way of Water

[ScoutingForToys]

We need threads “Films you watched when you were waay too young” and “Films you were not allowed to watch when you were waay too young”

The first Evil Dead and Hellraiser. Far too young when I saw those.

 

[Khev]

The first Evil Dead and Hellraiser. Far too young when I saw those.

Evilspeak on HBO when I was like 8 or 9 years old. That movie shook me to my core. Haven't watched it since so I can't say how much of that was the movie itself versus my age when I saw it.

 

[Otomofan]

Poltergeist. The Exorcist. Dreamscape (that ****ing Snakeman!)

All the 80s classics that were OK for kids then, like Temple of Doom and Gremlins and Ghostbusters but would likely be an R rating now.

Hell, Ghostbusters would get an R just for the cigarettes alone.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Same but those McDonald’s glass cups tho !

Still have those

 

[Wor-Gar]

State of the Art SFX at one time...


WARNING: Do Not Watch is you are 8 or 9... or have a fear of Acorns...

 

[Khev]

That is one stealthy giant squirrel...

 

[Khev]

I just sampled the original film on 4K disc, WOW what an improvement over previous releases. I must say it really did bring back the "magic" of seeing it in a theater despite not being 3D. The resolution and HDR are just off the charts, and if anyone is wondering it is indeed the 2022 cut with the extra Giovanni Ribisi scene at the end.

I really am just a straight up fan of this new saga that Cameron is creating. The original holds up and AWOW is my favorite sci-fi action flick in years.

 

[choombaz]

Yeah watched AWOW 4K on Disney + the other night and it looked magnificent, my complaints about it looking a bit cheap in some of the village scenes, like unfinished rendering, are non existent here, so either they improved it or it’s just coming across better on the home version. I can see the audio being improved upon though, so will probably drop for the physical at some point.

 

[Khev]

Yeah the audio is night and day on disk.

 

[ScoutingForToys]

Finally saw this the other day. Yes it was a very pretty film but otherwise a very meh film.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Finally saw this the other day. Yes it was a very pretty film but otherwise a very meh film.

Second verse, same as the first

 

[ScoutingForToys]

Second verse, same as the first

Exactly. Instead of blue cat monkeys we had blue fish monkeys. Oh and the bad guy was blue this time too. Otherwise same movie. It wasn't terrible but it was very uninspired.
I'm now utterly disinterested in the next half dozen Avatar movies Cameron has planned.
I know these films look very impressive on the big screen. Lots of ooohs and ahhhhhs but how the hell do they make as much money as they do?

 

[Wor-Gar]

Cartoons make a lot of money. Don't ask me how.

 

[Khev]

Exactly. Instead of blue cat monkeys we had blue fish monkeys. Oh and the bad guy was blue this time too. Otherwise same movie. It wasn't terrible but it was very uninspired.
I'm now utterly disinterested in the next half dozen Avatar movies Cameron has planned.
I know these films look very impressive on the big screen. Lots of ooohs and ahhhhhs but how the hell do they make as much money as they do?

Likable characters overcoming adversity in spectacular fashion will always sell, especially from Cameron. For decades people have claimed that ALIENS and T2 were basically the same story as their predecessors but just cranked up a notch.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I respect the hell out of Cameron. A true Renaissance Man.

But I saw AWOW once, was bored by it then, and have no intention of watching it again while it cycles on HBO.

I'll certainly go see his 3rd installment, but he better really have some new razzle-dazzle by then and steal a better story with a solid villain.


It's funny, if you think about it broadly, Avatar is really the reverse of Aliens... like if you sympathized with the poor xenomorphs just trying to 'live off the land' when those nasty cocky-ass marines showed up to incinerate them... and they had to band together to stop that witch Ripley, her monkey-child, and a menacing horde of space marines.

 

[Khev]

Yeah I'm very curious to see who the main villain will be going forward since obviously Quaritch is geared up for a redemption/team-up-with-Jake arc.

I'm most curious about the 4th movie since that's the one that Cameron said really goes bonkers (and according to him prompted the studio execs to go "holy f---" when he told them what was planned.) Jake and the Na'vi somehow taking the fight to Earth perhaps?

 

[Wor-Gar]

Yeah I'm very curious to see who the main villain will be going forward since obviously Quaritch is geared up for a redemption/team-up-with-Jake arc.

The Fire People! Lead by the evil Blaze Flammer!

I'm most curious about the 4th movie since that's the one that Cameron said really goes bonkers (and according to him prompted the studio execs to go "holy f---" when he told them what was planned.) Jake and the Na'vi somehow taking the fight to Earth perhaps?

Bonkers? Studio execs shocked?

Knowing Cameron, we learn that Humans are actually avatars too... and we meet their controllers...

 

[choombaz]

Yeah I like the Avatars but they are not in the same ballpark as T1 and Aliens. Those are just such efficient, lean, muscular, funny as hell films with so much heart and character and depth. Starting with The Abyss each film subsequently got bigger, more pretentious as JC started to disappear up his own you know what.

 

[Khev]

The Fire People! Lead by the evil Blaze Flammer!



Bonkers? Studio execs shocked?

Knowing Cameron, we learn that Humans are actually avatars too... and we meet their controllers...

Here's the article I was referencing:

https://au.variety.com/2022/film/ne...ro-studio-notes-left-executives-stunned-7785/
Okay he didn't say bonkers but rather "nuts in a good way."

 

[Wor-Gar]

Oh yeah, that's why Cameron ramped up the 4th one... because they can end it after the 3rd one.

So why do we need three 3+ hours films BEFORE the "good one"?