Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

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Tor Valum revealed!

Yup no need for the Trevorrow cut to be released lol

Just wow so freaking bad.

Is that the Legion of Doom headquarters coming out of the swamp lol

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Ok.... Im glad they bought palpatine back now lmao
 
That's supposed to be Mustafar? Trees? Isn't that just the place Kylo was cutting down the Chinese-hat wearing guys in the TROS opening?

This can't be Tor Valum... just a freaking creature he gets answers from to find the holocrap thingie.
 
Nothing like a pic of a giant spider riding a even bigger baby to force me to come back in this thread! How could I not look?

Is it bad that I really want to see this scene? I now need to see all the excised footage.

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I like them all. Having said that, out of the 24 official films and 1 unofficial film (Never Say Never Again*).

Good

From Russia with Love
Goldfinger
Golden Eye
Casino Royale
Skyfall

Average to mediocre

Quantum of Solace
The Spy Who Loved Me
The Man with the Golden Gun
Live or Let Die
Diamonds are Forever
Never Say Never Again*


Bad

Dr No
Thunderball
You Only Live Twice
On Her Majesty's Secret Service
Moonraker
For Your Eyes Only
Octopussy
A View to a Kill
The Living Daylights
License to Kill
Tomorrow Never Dies
The World is not Enough
Die Another Day
Specter

As a huge Bond fan myself I have to pipe in lol.

I can?t put Bond in just three categories. As there are some truly good to great Bonds all the way down to some that are basically unwatchable.

Good to Great Bond:
From Russia With Love
The Spy Who Loved Me
Golden Eye
Casino Royals
Skyfall

Average to Good Bond:
Dr. No
Goldfinger
Thunderball
You Only Live Twice
The Man with the Golden Gun
For You Eyes Only
Specter (Only watched it twice though and that was in theaters)

Very Average Bond:
On Her Majesty?s Secret Service (too damn long)
Tomorrow Never Dies

Bad Bond Bad:
Live and Let Die
Moonraker
Octopussy
Never Say Never Again
The Living Daylights
License to Kill
The World is not Enough
Quantum of Solace

Awful Bond:
Diamonds Are Forever ( this started the goofy Bond well before Moore did)
A View to a Kill
Die Another Day
 
As a huge Bond fan myself I have to pipe in lol.

I can?t put Bond in just three categories. As there are some truly good to great Bonds all the way down to some that are basically unwatchable.

Good to Great Bond:
From Russia With Love
The Spy Who Loved Me
Golden Eye
Casino Royals
Skyfall

Average to Good Bond:
Dr. No
Goldfinger
Thunderball
You Only Live Twice
The Man with the Golden Gun
For You Eyes Only
Specter (Only watched it twice though and that was in theaters)

Very Average Bond:
On Her Majesty?s Secret Service (too damn long)
Tomorrow Never Dies

Bad Bond Bad:
Live and Let Die
Moonraker
Octopussy
Never Say Never Again
The Living Daylights
License to Kill
The World is not Enough
Quantum of Solace

Awful Bond:
Diamonds Are Forever ( this started the goofy Bond well before Moore did)
A View to a Kill
Die Another Day

See I knew someone was going to put Spy Who Loved Me in their top 10 lol

You have the same list as Clown other than adding that movie.

Diamonds is so freaking bad.

I'm sorry, but this is pure gold. :lol



Funny enough while the movie is horrible but man were those 2 villains memorable lol


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It is quite maddening how studios show complete disrespect for their own creations.

When I say studios I mean Disney.


Disney continues their desecration of the MCU home releases and now the Fox historic branding meanwhile Paramount releases extended cut of a Transformers movie with proper Imax ratios and Lionsgate gives us a real 4K Hellboy. :slap


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Disney isn?t in the business of creation anymore. It is in the business of acquiring, and remaking everything more diversified until they can get the whole world to watch everything they release. Maximum capital gain for minimal effort. Mouse wants money.
 
When did this turn into a James Bond thread? Everyone knows Bond sucks, but it’s so bad you gotta love it! Considering bond will be a woman soon, I wonder if that will make it suck more and make people love it more? Women want to be her, and lesbians want to be with her - Open up and say ‘double oh!’

it really is hard to choose a top 10 list, they are all so bad I love them all! Like bad Christmas sweaters, they are all so ghastly, can you really choose? You just grab the nearest one and put it on.
 
Nothing like a pic of a giant spider riding a even bigger baby to force me to come back in this thread! How could I not look?

Is it bad that I really want to see this scene? I now need to see all the excised footage.

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The plot leaks that were being posted throughout the months leading to the release were very detailed, and proved to be astonishingly accurate. Those leaks contained some scene descriptions that weren't in the theatrical cut. Since the rest were so spot-on, I think it's a safe bet that those scenes were indeed filmed and cut. You might end up getting some of those in deleted scenes on the blu-ray. Here's a list of some that I took note of:

  • The opening scene with Kylo on Mustafar was much longer. The Oracle (spider thing) reads Kylo's mind and taunts him about his feelings for Rey. It also warns him that his path will soon lead to his end, but then gives Kylo the wayfinder. Hux and Pryde were also there on Mustafar where Kylo and his FO troops were rampaging through the woods for an extended bit.
  • The next sequence with the Falcon being chased by TIEs was more involved, and included more shots of various aliens onboard working with Poe and Finn. The big yellow slug alien had a larger role, for example.
  • When Kylo first reaches Exogol, his conversation with Palpatine had a lot more to it. Palpatine confirmed having survived DS2, and was shown being tended to by the Sith loyalists. Palps actually describes to Kylo that he went to the Unknown Regions (where Exogol is) following the battle of Endor. He's also the one who tells Kylo about the Dyad, and how he wants Rey and Kylo to both inherit his throne.
  • On Pasana, Lando tells them that he had a daughter who was stolen by the First Order. That was why he never left there with Luke.
  • Luke was supposed to be at the Resistance base with Leia when she died (at least his voice was). He was there to pass on one final lesson to her (I'm not sure if that means the Force ghost knowledge, or something else).
  • In one version of the climax, Palpatine supposedly used a lightsaber when battling Kylo and Rey.

As an additional note, the movie was originally described as opening with the flashback scene of Luke and Leia sparring/training. This was supposed to transition to Leia helping train Rey. My guess is that there had to be additional exposition (not voiced over by Luke) for that to make sense.
 
[*]The opening scene with Kylo on Mustafar was much longer. The Oracle (spider thing) reads Kylo's mind and taunts him about his feelings for Rey. It also warns him that his path will soon lead to his end, but then gives Kylo the wayfinder.

This makes way more sense... though I never pictured trees or water on Mustafar.
 
Yeah, that scene does not look like Mustafar at all. From space the whole planet looks like it was pretty representative of the service scenes in episode three. In other words, lava, mountains, and no greenery, certainly no forests and swamps... must be global cooling on that planet!
 
The plot leaks that were being posted throughout the months leading to the release were very detailed, and proved to be astonishingly accurate. Those leaks contained some scene descriptions that weren't in the theatrical cut. Since the rest were so spot-on, I think it's a safe bet that those scenes were indeed filmed and cut. You might end up getting some of those in deleted scenes on the blu-ray. Here's a list of some that I took note of:

  • The opening scene with Kylo on Mustafar was much longer. The Oracle (spider thing) reads Kylo's mind and taunts him about his feelings for Rey. It also warns him that his path will soon lead to his end, but then gives Kylo the wayfinder. Hux and Pryde were also there on Mustafar where Kylo and his FO troops were rampaging through the woods for an extended bit.
  • The next sequence with the Falcon being chased by TIEs was more involved, and included more shots of various aliens onboard working with Poe and Finn. The big yellow slug alien had a larger role, for example.
  • When Kylo first reaches Exogol, his conversation with Palpatine had a lot more to it. Palpatine confirmed having survived DS2, and was shown being tended to by the Sith loyalists. Palps actually describes to Kylo that he went to the Unknown Regions (where Exogol is) following the battle of Endor. He's also the one who tells Kylo about the Dyad, and how he wants Rey and Kylo to both inherit his throne.
  • On Pasana, Lando tells them that he had a daughter who was stolen by the First Order. That was why he never left there with Luke.
  • Luke was supposed to be at the Resistance base with Leia when she died (at least his voice was). He was there to pass on one final lesson to her (I'm not sure if that means the Force ghost knowledge, or something else).
  • In one version of the climax, Palpatine supposedly used a lightsaber when battling Kylo and Rey.

As an additional note, the movie was originally described as opening with the flashback scene of Luke and Leia sparring/training. This was supposed to transition to Leia helping train Rey. My guess is that there had to be additional exposition (not voiced over by Luke) for that to make sense.
That actually sounds good, quite interesting. Thanks for that.

I know this is a very unpopular opinion on here, but I think I enjoyed TLJ more than TROS. It sounds like those scenes could have really improved the movie, but imagination and actual execution could be very different things. At least they would have been very different from what we've seen before.

I enjoyed TROS, for the most part, but it felt very rushed. It felt more like a National Treasure movie in some parts. Oh well, the movie is what it is, no sense pining for something that never made it on the screen

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There's a canon backstory as to why Mustafar looks different. Short answer is that it had been cooling during the half century since ROTS allowing plants to start growing again (supposedly it was once a lush paradise before some powerful Force chick mucked it up.)

I think the guys Kylo was slaughtering at the beginning might have even been trying to help restore it.

Either way it seems to keep with Disney's tradition of bringing in elements of the PT but in a way that can still be compartmentalized *away* from the PT if you don't want them to be canon.

For instance in RO Mustafar is the only planet shown that doesn't have its name printed in text at the bottom of the screen. So if you just want it to be "Vader's Lava Planet" and not something from the PT you can easily do that.
 
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That actually sounds good, quite interesting. Thanks for that.

I know this is a very unpopular opinion on here, but I think I enjoyed TLJ more than TROS. It sounds like those scenes could have really improved the movie, but imagination and actual execution could be very different things. At least they would have been very different from what we've seen before.

I enjoyed TROS, for the most part, but it felt very rushed. It felt more like a National Treasure movie in some parts. Oh well, the movie is what it is, no sense pining for something that never made it on the screen

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I also enjoy parts of TLJ more than TROS but it also seems for some that TROS actually improved TLJ for them.

I actually think that each of the 3 in the ST have something really great to offer and not so great things to offer.

Look we?re too close to this trilogy.

Once time passes we will all reevaluate from a greater distance.

Proximity tends to plays havoc with emotions and critical analysis.

For me all 3 ST are just like ROTJ meaning I rate all 3 with a 50/50 split, crazy right.




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