EBAY sucks for collecting

[rmac68]

Re: The mentality of the average Ebay bidder

Did you just come here to complain about anything and eveything cause from what I can tell that all you have done since you join the forum complained about the tots chucky...complained about eBay sellers trying to Make money now your complaning about ebay buyers .....all this cause you didn't win a knight rider car for the price you wanted....never seen a bigger cry baby in my life

 

[Rufian]

Re: The mentality of the average Ebay bidder

Of course, I'm upset lol I bid on several of them and didn't win once. This is not the first time I bid either. I'm not new to ebay. I never win any bids. It's almost a guaranteed, so I don't even bother anymore. I asked a couple of sellers to come down $20 and they don't even want to do that. They are selling this piece for hundreds and is not even tested, doesn't work, has multiple scratches, and they hide under the "AS IS/UNTESTED" excuse. In reality, just a lie, they did test them and are not functional. They think we are idiots.

I always call out these sellers on their outrageous prices. Their items will sit on there for months, cause 99% of people will not pay those amounts.

This toy was worth $30 new and even though decades have passed, this is not some rare very limited number, never seen item for it to cost hundreds and hundreds, this was a mass produced toy, especially when they are not in mint condition and with inserts, box, etc.

Maybe if it was in super mint condition, all working, the box, insert, the whole nine yards it would be worth hundreds, but I've seen people selling scratched up as hell car with broken doors, stained figure for $165?

Screw them. I refuse to pay that amount. For that money I should be getting the toy with everything in super perfect condition, no scratchs, no stains, no discoloration, nothing.

 

[Pork Chop Express]

Re: The mentality of the average Ebay bidder

I always call out these sellers on their outrageous prices. Their items will sit on there for months, cause 99% of people will not pay those amounts.

That's a waste of their time and yours.

E-bay is a waiting game (poor mans gambling), eventually people get what they want buying or selling. I had a car part listed for 4 months with stupid low-ball offers. I knew what I had and what it was worth and someone eventually bought it without question at my asking price.

 

[**16k**]

Re: The mentality of the average Ebay bidder

Look, here’s how eBay works. The only fools are those who bid early and over bid again and again. The golden rule is:

Find object
Guesstimate how much it will go for with the stupid bidders mentioned earlier
Bid minimum to prevent seller from cancelling auction
Wait until the last 5 seconds and bid double the price of your guesstimate. Risky but works 95% of the time and most of the time you get the object and a deal. Oh, and never bet a perfect number. If you think it will go for $50, bet $102.

There you go. I know it was hard but next time ill bring butter. You get used to it, you’ll see.

 

[Rufian]

Re: The mentality of the average Ebay bidder

Look, here’s how eBay works. The only fools are those who bid early and over bid again and again. The golden rule is:

Find object
Guesstimate how much it will go for with the stupid bidders mentioned earlier
Bid minimum to prevent seller from cancelling auction
Wait until the last 5 seconds and bid double the price of your guesstimate. Risky but works 95% of the time and most of the time you get the object and a deal. Oh, and never bet a perfect number. If you think it will go for $50, bet $102.

There you go. I know it was hard but next time ill bring butter. You get used to it, you’ll see.

Makes no sense. If you're going double the price of your estimate, you're going to end up with a price that is almost the same as buy it now options, so what's the point. Might as well avoid all this crap and purchase from buy it now.

The auctions always end up with a final price almost if not as close, and many times even higher than buy it now items. This is the stupidity of competition that many idiots fall for on ebay. Only one who wins is the seller. That's what all these people constantly outbidding each other cause.

The winner does not win, as he is paying a price that is much higher than he wanted to, because of all the people who got into a bid war, but the fool will give himself a pat on the back, because he beat the others and saved himself a couple of bucks compared to buy it now options out there. The "losers" will feel like crap and move on to something else. Nobody won except the seller and ebay.

And this is why auctions should be eliminated from that site.

 

[Rufian]

Re: The mentality of the average Ebay bidder

That's a waste of their time and yours.

E-bay is a waiting game (poor mans gambling), eventually people get what they want buying or selling. I had a car part listed for 4 months with stupid low-ball offers. I knew what I had and what it was worth and someone eventually bought it without question at my asking price.

is not as waste of time, as they need to be put on check and given a dose of reality. It only takes a couple of seconds to write a simple message letting them know, maybe they should come down on the price. I see people on craiglist, facebook ads, ebay, etc coming up with ridiculous prices for items that are crap, used and nothing special. Just greedy ass people with no common sense of how the market works.

These people want to receive as much money as possible for their crap used items, but when they want to buy something, they want it to be super perfect for as cheap as possible. I've sold stuff on ebay before and I always listed a reasonable price based on the condition and because I know, if I list it too high, nobody will buy it.

Ebay is a waiting game, only for the people who plan on buy it now, as you can save the search and be notified when the item you want pops up and you just pay. Ebay is a waste of time, frustration for the ones who want to win a bid at the lowest price possible. For most, it will not happen.

And they will continue wasting their time, hoping they win one of those bids one day. They'll keep on waiting for years on end.

 

[**16k**]

Re: The mentality of the average Ebay bidder

Makes no sense. If you're going double the price of your estimate, you're going to end up with a price that is almost the same as buy it now options, so what's the point. Might as well avoid all this crap and purchase from buy it now.

The auctions always end up with a final price almost if not as close, and many times even higher than buy it now items. This is the stupidity of competition that many idiots fall for on ebay. Only one who wins is the seller. That's what all these people constantly outbidding each other cause.

The winner does not win, as he is paying a price that is much higher than he wanted to, because of all the people who got into a bid war, but the fool will give himself a pat on the back, because he beat the others and saved himself a couple of bucks compared to buy it now options out there. The "losers" will feel like crap and move on to something else. Nobody won except the seller and ebay.

And this is why auctions should be eliminated from that site.

You’re wrong. I’ve been doing it for years and scored a deal most of the time. People don’t bet double. When the last few minutes come, they stupidly continue to outbid the one leading the game, so they increase their bids by small increaments thinking the competition is the other guy.
And bam! Here you come with a big bid at the last second and out of nowhere. If they’re fast they’ll continue bidding once or twice thinking the completion is still the other guy, but too late, the game is over.

But, I’ll admit I hate doing it and rather get a BIN at a fair price.

However, those who put up auctions are trying to make the most money (so they’re sharks and I like it when I get a deal and they make less than anticipated), and the others (the morons) want to buy the item at the lowest possible price so keep bidding small amounts thinking, hoping, praying no one will outbid them. Like we’re in that kind of world!

Morality? Greed and stupidity get ill rewarded! I like that!

 

[Rufian]

Re: The mentality of the average Ebay bidder

You’re wrong. I’ve been doing it for years and scored a deal most of the time. People don’t bet double. When the last few minutes come, they stupidly continue to outbid the one leading the game, so they increase their bids by small increaments thinking the competition is the other guy.
And bam! Here you come with a big bid at the last second and out of nowhere. If they’re fast they’ll continue bidding once or twice thinking the completion is still the other guy, but too late, the game is over.

But, I’ll admit I hate doing it and rather get a BIN at a fair price.

However, those who put up auctions are trying to make the most money (so they’re sharks and I like it when I get a deal and they make less than anticipated), and the others (the morons) want to buy the item at the lowest possible price so keep bidding small amounts thinking, hoping, praying no one will outbid them. Like we’re in that kind of world!

Morality? Greed and stupidity get ill rewarded! I like that!

Why bother doing that when there are "buy it now" options, for just slightly higher price than your double bid. Many times even the same price.

Sure, you win, and give yourself a pat on the back, but you only saved yourself a few bucks really, not much. Why even bother.

Bids give you the illusion that you can get an item for a much cheaper price than buy it now option.

Maybe if this is the only item available on ebay and you really want it.

Its just a game to stroke one's ego.

A few years ago, I put an outrageous bid and beat everyone else, didn't buy the item, just did it beat these 2 idiots who kept outbidding each other every minute, got a negative review lol I created a new account and kept on playing

 

[KitFisto]

Re: The mentality of the average Ebay bidder

- He wants to get the best possible item for as cheap as possible. Just from the start this is a flawed mindset, as this never happens in the real world

- He doesn’t realize he is not the only one who wants the same.

- He will avoid the more expensive buy it now offers as he is looking to spend as little as possible.

- Seller lists item as cheap as possible to force bid war. This forces people to early bid to prevent nasty sellers from canceling the auction due to no bids/people waiting till the last minute to bid the lowest amount possible

- Early bidding turns into a war of usually 2 or 3 idiots constantly outbidding each other for only a few cents for the whole week of the listing

- Fools don’t realize their stupidity is just rising the price more than it should be

- By the near end of the auction, the price catapults to as close to the same as buy it now items due all the people thinking irrationally and just wanting to win the competition and in the end, the fool who won didn’t really save much if at all. Only ebay and the seller benefited from this nonsense.

- the fools who lost, will move on to another item and repeat the same crap again

- they will continue to avoid the buy it now items in hope of getting it as cheap as possible without realizing it will never happen as that very same mindset, will collectively rise the price of the item

I know I always go in looking to pay as much as possible.

 

[Star Puffs]

Re: The mentality of the average Ebay bidder

E-bay is a waiting game (poor mans gambling), eventually people get what they want buying or selling. I had a car part listed for 4 months with stupid low-ball offers. I knew what I had and what it was worth and someone eventually bought it without question at my asking price.

The price variance for identical products is astounding if you study completed auctions, which how to establish a fair market value. If you want to exceed the FMV, then you have to wait until the supply of identical items and a willing buyer align, which almost always does happen if you're patient.

 

[**16k**]

Re: The mentality of the average Ebay bidder

Why bother doing that when there are "buy it now" options, for just slightly higher price than your double bid. Many times even the same price.

Sure, you win, and give yourself a pat on the back, but you only saved yourself a few bucks really, not much. Why even bother.

Bids give you the illusion that you can get an item for a much cheaper price than buy it now option.

Maybe if this is the only item available on ebay and you really want it.

Its just a game to stroke one's ego.

A few years ago, I put an outrageous bid and beat everyone else, didn't buy the item, just did it beat these 2 idiots who kept outbidding each other every minute, got a negative review lol I created a new account and kept on playing

Now, this is where we agree. If there is a BIN, I'll take the BIN. But you're talking about collecting, therefore rare objects. In this case, you don't have a choice. Common objects, I almost never use auctions. Rare objects, I use the sniper method. I've been on eBay since 2006 and so far have only lost 4 bids. The first one where I was sniped (lesson learned, thank you) and three others where I didn't apply the method because bids were already going so high that I only bid a little more because the item was overestimated IMHO. Now, if you count that I'm around 1000 items won (30% approximately being auctions, that I saved some money on about 90% of these), I think that it doesn't work that bad...

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Re: The mentality of the average Ebay bidder

Sniping is an acquired skill

 

[**16k**]

Re: The mentality of the average Ebay bidder

Sniping is an acquired skill

Oh, and speaking of rules, I forgot the silver rule! If there is a make offer, always make one.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Re: The mentality of the average Ebay bidder

Oh, and speaking of rules, I forgot the silver rule! If there is a make offer, always make one.

I’ve bought many car parts that way

 

[a-dev]

Re: The mentality of the average Ebay bidder

Auction listings represent an opportunity for a buyer to get something cheaper than the BIN prices that are currently listed. Typically they do seem to end up almost as high as the BINs - if you're participating in them you hope they don't but very often they will. But - if it's something you really want - then a saving is a saving no matter how small (until some days or weeks later you see a new listing that's way cheaper but that's just bad luck and usually can't be predicted)

So my process is I look at the lowest BIN prices of the same item elsewhere and decide if I would be willing to pay that - then, in an auction, I enter that as my max bid as close to last second as I safely can. I'm pretty sure I've won every time by doing that.

Best case scenario I save a lot on what the BIN was, middle of the road case I save only a small amount; worst case I lose and have forced someone else to pay higher than the BIN that I was looking at in which case they were obviously more nuts than me and so be it. I'll just go for that BIN. Or not.

 

[Rotfish]

Re: The mentality of the average Ebay bidder

This guy's been repeating himself on two separate threads. Whether he's complaining about the bid reaching the BIN price and therefore being redundant or the BIN price itself being a "ripoff," it all comes down to one simple truth: he's not willing to pay as much as others and this upsets him. It's a part of life and very much part of collecting. We can't always get what we want.

And this is why auctions should be eliminated from that site.

This won't help you. Removing auctions or altering the psychology behind them isn't going to make money rain down from the sky or prevent other, more willing buyers from entering the market.

A few years ago, I put an outrageous bid and beat everyone else, didn't buy the item, just did it beat these 2 idiots who kept outbidding each other every minute, got a negative review lol I created a new account and kept on playing

My sympathy continues to decrease.

Screw them. I refuse to pay that amount.

Great. Close thread.

 

[greatlakes6]

The only reason the bidding starts low is to entice more bidders who think they have a shot at a bargain. I sold over 100 Franklin and Danbury Mint 1/24 diecast cars over the past few years. I started everything at $9.99, even if it was a $1,000 car. Just about every item sold for what it should. Quite a few went for much more than I had anticipated and a few went for less.

 

[Rufian]

Re: The mentality of the average Ebay bidder

This guy's been repeating himself on two separate threads. Whether he's complaining about the bid reaching the BIN price and therefore being redundant or the BIN price itself being a "ripoff," it all comes down to one simple truth: he's not willing to pay as much as others and this upsets him. It's a part of life and very much part of collecting. We can't always get what we want.




This won't help you. Removing auctions or altering the psychology behind them isn't going to make money rain down from the sky or prevent other, more willing buyers from entering the market.




My sympathy continues to decrease.




Great. Close thread.

This part is wrong. As no others, are paying those prices. Supposedly, I refuse to pay as much as others, and yet those "buy it now" options of this particular toy, are still there for weeks on end. So much for "others" paying more than me, as they are all congregated in the bidding auctions.

So, no, is not that I'm not willing to pay as much as others, no one is paying those prices, period. I refuse to pay the outrageous prices these people ask. They come up with those prices out of their ass.

 

[Rufian]

I bought the Knight Rider

I was bidding on one that had only the car and figure. It was at $55 a couple of hours ago and at the last minute, it catapulted to the winner who got it for $112.50 + $21 shipping which equals $134.

One minute after I lost, I went ahead and bought the toy from a "buy it now" that I was following. Same car and figurine, similar condition for $120 and $12 which is $132. I actually got it a little cheaper than the dude who won that auction. I really didn't want to pay this much to be honest but whatever. I wanted this car for so many years.

Here are the pics of the one I bought. It doesn't seem to have many scratches, just the window is fogged up. It needs some cleaning

This is AS IS though, the guys claimed he hasn't tested the sound box or even put batteries, we'll see even if it doesn't work, is still nice to have

I wonder how can I fix the windows and make the clearer

 

[Rufian]

Re: I bought the Knight Rider

What I'm going to do is just clean the car with soapy water and microfiber towel, then possibly use my Meguiar scratch X to remove any fine scratches and then wax it for shine. Blow air in the interior to remove dirt, then with cotton balls or q-tip with soapy water to clean the interior a little. Clean the figure.

I really don't want to remove the body as the tabs that hold the doors could break if you are not extremely careful.

I figure the yellow and scratches on the windows is basically the same concept with plastic headlights on cars. It has yellowed from the elements and buffing with a headlight polisher/cleaner should help it.

The guy claims he had the toy in storage for 20 years which is believable as I don't see any real scratches in the pics, is just dirty.

Unfortunately, I don't have the box and people are selling the box for hundreds on ebay.

There was another BIN with the box but it was $230, so yeah