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DarthNeil said:Of course the physicality is limited-- it's an old man versus a bodybuilder who can't see correctly in a mask (& suit for that matter) that's very restrictive!
I wish people in this Michael Bay/MTV infused world would stop asking that every movie have Matrix-like special effects or Nicholas Cage with his free flowing mullet blowing in the breeze as he escapes from the massive fireball---
The ANH fight is iconic--- poetic--- and incredily moving. That big black &$## just killed Ben! Shoot the door, kid! He's advancing ominously--- after stomping on the old dirt encrusted robe first... Why do we need Vader to flip over Obi-Wan's head to which the old hermit does the splits and slices his lightsaber in a 180 before leaping up and going all karate kid?
This is why movies are no longer released with two characters seated somewhere talking with no camera cuts or flashbacks mixed in--- our attention spans couldn't handle it!!!
Every lightsaber fight is great for who is involved and what it is, but to downgrade the first and greatest simply because the two adversaries weren't hopped up on acid or rejects from a Jet-Li film is wrong (in my opinion)...
It was awesome when I sat in a darkened theatre 30 years ago and it's awesome every time I watch it now--- even though movie making techniques have gone futuristic to the extreme. Why is the OT better than the PT (and by the way, I love the PT)? Too many computers/fake people and not enough stuffy English actors walking down actual corridors with model parts glued to them to make them look spacey... That's real SW. And it always will be--- no matter how visually stunning the PT is and future projects will be.
Editorial--- over.
Your opinion is valid, DN.
No one can discount the dialogue, the performance by Guinness, the sacrifice by Kenobi, or its importance as a story point. And I don't think anyone was trying to.
In my opinion, the fight is tame, physically. We can come up with story reasons for it, but ultimately it comes down to real-world physical constraints. By Empire, it had already been surpassed physically, and I was merely pointing out that it's not the PT that did that.
As to all your other points about movies nowadays, I think you're painting with a pretty broad brush and overgeneralizing both today's filmmakers and today's audiences. There's truth in what you say, but it's not 100% to the level you say.