The Dark Knight Rises *SPOILERS*

[intothevoid]

The more Tolkien the merrier

In my home there are 3 trilogy masterpieces

LOTR movies
Nolan Batman movies
Avengers movie

We're really lucky to live in such times of nerd greatness

Spoiler:

But don't count your Avengers chickens just yet

 

[Frank]

So someone spent the time to list 50 reasons why they thought the movie sucked, sounds like he/she has it in for Nolan

There's alot of high fiber intestinal content for Nolan around here. I chalk it up to marking territory.

 

[jye4ever]

We're really lucky to live in such times of nerd greatness

Spoiler:

But don't count your Avengers chickens just yet

Avengers is an awesome trilogy.

It had a beginning, middle and end.

There's alot of high fiber intestinal content for Nolan around here. I chalk it up to marking territory.

huh, but it's a Nolan movie thread, meesa meesa confusa.

 

[cerealkeller]

Saw if for the 3rd time today and it keeps getting better. I honestly think it just beat TDK for me. Sure it doesn't have the Joker, but what it does have is a compelling story and a final act that satisfies me in every way. Through Bale's performance, I believed in what was happening to him and felt for him when he lost everything. The underdog story is always a fun one too as long as you like the character. I also love Bane. His plot to destroy Gotham felt real and terrifying really. One of the smart moves by Nolan to shoot in real cites, making the threat seem even more real.

And honestly, when Blake enters the Batcave and he rises mirroring the shot from Begins, I get the goosebumps. Such a perfect moment for a character I grew to love. Sorry for the incoherent rant. Seeing this movie turns my words into a series of high pitched grunts for the most part.

 

[Frank]

huh, but it's a Nolan movie thread, meesa meesa confusa.

Hmm, I dunno. It's like some people expected Nolan to jump on top of Heath's funeral pyre. TDKR doesn't come off as one of those movies that you either love or hate, maybe that's why they're upset. I can't tell, my meh levels are too high.

 

[plasmid303]

https://www.theouthousers.com/index.php/features/116994-fifty-reasons-why-the-dark-knight-sucks.html

Jeebus!

No one here is brave enough to tackle this gorilla? Void?

 

[jye4ever]

Jeebus!

No one here is brave enough to tackle this gorilla? Void?

 

[Kamandi]

I love the original Star Wars trilogy but it has more plot holes and story problems than Nolan could ever dream of.

For instance - Luke trains with a seaker ball for a few hours on the Millennium Falcon, goes to Degobah for about a week. When he goes back in ep.6 Yoda says his training is complete. It takes a lousy week to train to be a Jedi. He'd get more training at Walmart.

It took Luke and Leia how long to figure out how to rescue Han? Jabba the Hutt - feared galactic crimelord - has pigs, bellydancers and muppets guarding his castle.

In ROTJ Han is an instant "General" while Luke, the Jedi who blew up the first Death Star, is still a Commander.

"....repeat to yourself 'It's just a show',
I should really just relax..."​

.

 

[CelticPredator]

Jeebus!

No one here is brave enough to tackle this gorilla? Void?

Don't need too. Some of the stuff is right...but he misses the point of watching films. He watched them for plot holes. And that's it.

If he can just spot these, then he shouldn't watch movies.

 

[jye4ever]

Don't need too. Some of the stuff is right...but he misses the point of watching films. He watched them for plot holes. And that's it.

If he can just spot these, then he shouldn't watch movies.

I watch Nolan Batman movies for girl on girl action.

 

[CelticPredator]

Isn't that what you're supposed to do?

 

[batfan08]

https://www.theouthousers.com/index.php/features/116994-fifty-reasons-why-the-dark-knight-sucks.html



50. They use a picture of Maggie Gyllenhall for Rachel Dawes. I had enough of that mug in the second movie.

49. Batman builds the Bat-Cave and NEVER uses it. He retires after the events of the Dark Knight and it was yet to be completed.

48. Who provided food and such at the prison? I get that it’s hell on Earth, but with no guards and no staff, one has to wonder how anyone survived for more than a week. Or was it some communist cooperative in disguise?

47. The VOICE. ‘nuff said.

46. Bane (already difficult to understand) broadcast over a speaker at a stadium.

45. Gotham sports suck. That stadium was half-full at best for a pro NFL game. Time to move to greener pastures, like Canada.

44. No ending to the Scarecrow’s story. If you’re going to put him in all 3 films, he should at least have a fitting ending. Wedge was treated better.

43. When you claim your film is about “realism”, don’t put a gigantic plot device on the face of your main villain. Bane’s mask prevents him from feeling excruciating pain? Ugh. But a super-steroid would have been unrealistic?

42. Bruce Wayne yet again allows his company to fall into ruin. At some point, you’re no longer playing the role of clueless billionaire playboy...

41. The GCPD’s idea of searching sewage tunnels. I guess if you clog them up with every man you have, you might find something. You know where Gordon went down, and you know where he washed up. It’s called a search pattern, geniuses.

40. The kid with the falsetto voice doing the Star Spangled Banner.

39. The Bat-Cave isn’t built for the Tumbler. There’s no way they could have known he wouldn’t be using some land vehicle once he destroyed the first one, so why wouldn’t they create some kind of ramp to get in and out of the cave? For that matter, how does he get the motorcycle in and out without serious damage to the frame?

38. Marion Cotillard’s death scene.

37. Lucius Fox’s idea of keeping the world safe from all the weapons developed by Waynetech is to keep them all in one place in pristine working condition.

36. JGL throwing away his badge without so much as a “Vaya con dios” to punctuate the moment.

35. Anne Hathaway doesn’t go topless. You called the movie the Dark Knight Rises, it’s your fault...

34. Christopher Nolan’s take on American society with one percenters versus the ninety-nine percenters and everyone being a ******. How dare you create a movie that is your commentary on American society, you British prick, HOW DARE YOU?!

33. Bruce willing the remainder of his estate to Alfred. Considering he was broke, the legal red tape regarding illegal trades made in his name, and the shambles of the company after its foray into clean energy almost led to the destruction of Gotham, we can safely assume that all Alfred inherited was debt. ****** move, Bruce.

32. No one notices that Bruce Wayne no longer has a limp and doesn’t need the use of a cane. How did these people NOT figure out he was Batman?

31. Bruce fixes his limp with an advanced prosthetic. Good thing Bane lets him keep it when he throws him into that prison. Or maybe that spinal punch fixed that too. Maybe that old guy was Superboy Prime. Coincidence?

30. Were there only 2 trucks that could have possibly housed the bomb? Because when they realize they’re at a decoy, they automatically know it’s the other one, which would make Talia a dumbass.

29. Knowing the bomb is going to go off any day know, Gordon waits until there are only 12 hours left to even identify which truck could possibly hold the device.

28. Why would you build one platform to house everything in the Bat-Cave? Basically, Batman can’t land the Bat, and use the computer at the same time, or even access his suit. Design fail.

27. Batman’s disappearing act with JGL. He actually gives him a grenade and tells him to turn around and throw it, so he can run off and seemingly disappear into the night. Ninja fail.

26. Just to clarify: if you’re a world-renowned jewel thief that wants to escape the “life”, try changing your hairstyle, changing your hair color, stop stealing, and possibly (and this is just a shot in the dark) us an alias. If you’re going to use your real name (one that has a criminal record) and rent property with it, then you really shouldn’t be _____ing about not being able to disappear.

25. Bruce Wayne turns over his company to a woman he knows nothing about. When they bump uglies, she reveals that she was poor growing up, and Bruce is surprised by this. Way to vet the person you’re handing your company and a potential fusion bomb over to.

24. Batman has no problem with Catwoman using a cannon to off Bane. In her defense, she’s hot.

23. The Bat’s autopilot is working, but Bruce decides to stay in the thing with about 6 seconds left before bailing because he just loves dramatic tension and has always wanted to contract leukemia. Maybe he had a fridge on the Bat...

22. There are mere hours left before the city is obliterated and Batman takes hours to create a burning symbol of a bat on one of Gotham’s bridges. Of course, this act probably would have led to the “citizen” detonating the fusion bomb (seeing how it was a direct act of defiance), but Batman does love his theatrics.

21. A direct continuation of #22. Batman puts the lives of Gordon and a half-dozen other people in danger as they waddle out on the ice, because he’s too busy being a pyromaniac.

20. Gotham was SAFER without Batman. Sure they enacted some kind of fascist ____, but basically they eliminated organized crime, and Gotham had never been safer.

19. The real threat to Gotham IS Batman. If it weren’t for him, Talia never goes after Gotham to avenge her pappy.

18. JGL has an eye-opening moment when he realizes that guns are bad. He throws his piece away in disgust... only to brandish a shotgun a few minutes later. Remember kids, if you think guns are bad, you’re just using one that’s too small.

17. Bruce can’t figure out that the only reason he’s not making a jump is because he’s being hampered by a 50 pound rope.

16. Talia and Bane take Gotham hostage and can blow it up at any moment, but decide to wait 3 months, because they just know that Batman will somehow recover from a broken back in that time.

15. If you want Gotham to tear itself apart, why would you take out the cops AND THEN institute martial law?

14. Apparently all it takes to fix a shattered spinal cord is a really hard punch to the back.

13. This is the prequel to Unbreakable, because Batman should be called Mr. Glass. In the short time (to be discussed later) that he was Batman, he was basically crippled. This guy makes Greg Oden look like Superman.

12. Batman learns nothing. In the Dark Knight Returns when Bats is beaten by the mutant leader, he comes back for a rematch, but uses what he learned from the first fight to win the second. No such thing here. He just goes after Bane again, and really he should have just had his ass handed to him again if not for an inadvertent elbow and a lucky plot device.

11. Alfred and the butler for the Green Goblin (that one’s for you, Zechs) trained at the same place. Alfred knew that Katie Holmes didn’t love Bruce, but rather than tell him, he allows him to quit as Batman and quit at life for 8 years! Then, just as Bruce begins to pull himself together (but not in a way Alfred likes) he drops the bomb on him that he’s been pining away for a girl that chose a guy with half a face. What a ____.

And that brings us up to the top 10.

10. Jim Gordon couldn’t figure out Batman was Bruce Wayne.

9. Batman kills Talia. No two ways about it, his actions lead directly to her death. Is he wracked by guilt? Does he rush to try and save her? Nope. He stands idly by and watches her gasp for her final breath. Apparently Batman’s vow not to take lives does not extend to anyone named Al Ghul.

8. Batman quits because Katie Holmes died. The guy that dedicated himself to vengeance and creating order in his life after the death of his parents quits and becomes a recluse because his girlfriend (who was dating someone else at the time) died.

7. During a 3 month siege, Lucius Fox couldn’t get word to the outside world. This is the guy that created the tech to turn cellphones into Big Brother, sonar imaging tech, tank-cars, stealth-copters and so on. He is in a city with MILLIONS of cellphones, satellite dishes, CB radios, radio stations, television stations and god knows what else. Lucius fail.

6. The lemming army. GCPD’s idea of ‘tactics’ is to line up all their men 10 across and charge down the street into automatic gunfire.

5. Batman is a ____. He knows full well he can escape the atomic blast. He knows he fixed the autopilot, but he purposely leads people to believe that he’s going to die. And the worst part is, the person he lies to is the one person he’s going to tell afterwards that he’s still alive.

4. JGL will last approximately 5 minutes as Batman. Yeah, he’s trained as a cop, but how exactly did cops fare against the League of Shadows? Again, Batman is a ____ (pun intended) if he thought JGL was going to pick up the slack after he left. And he turned the mansion into an orphanage ensuring that EVERYONE would figure out JGL was Batman.

3. Bruce Wayne didn’t know that a fusion power source could possibly be used as a weapon before a Russian scientist published a paper.

2. Batman only existed for 1 year. It’s true. The Joker tells the mob bosses (in the Dark Knight) that they had nothing to fear a year ago, so we take this as Batman has been operating during that time. Then he quits at the end of that movie. Yup, the guy who was obsessed with creating a legend and a symbol and yadda yadda yadda only had the guts to stick around for a year.

1. Batman quits yet again at the end of the movie. Dude, is this guy the biggest slacker on the planet or what? He worked for like 1 year in his entire life! What a ******.

Here's five reasons why Doc John sucks:
5. He's a stupid head
4. He writes for a website called the outhousers, therefore, his opinion smells like ____.
3. If he wasn't so busy trying to tear it down, he would realize that the platform had enough room for the armory and the computer.
2. Alfred was trying to save Bruce from himself, you heartless POS
1. He's a stupid head.

 

[intothevoid]

Saw if for the 3rd time today and it keeps getting better. I honestly think it just beat TDK for me. Sure it doesn't have the Joker, but what it does have is a compelling story and a final act that satisfies me in every way. Through Bale's performance, I believed in what was happening to him and felt for him when he lost everything. The underdog story is always a fun one too as long as you like the character. I also love Bane. His plot to destroy Gotham felt real and terrifying really. One of the smart moves by Nolan to shoot in real cites, making the threat seem even more real.

And honestly, when Blake enters the Batcave and he rises mirroring the shot from Begins, I get the goosebumps. Such a perfect moment for a character I grew to love. Sorry for the incoherent rant. Seeing this movie turns my words into a series of high pitched grunts for the most part.

I look fwd to my third viewing with my good friend Neo (who hasn't seem it yet )

Jeebus!

No one here is brave enough to tackle this gorilla? Void?

To tackle it would somehow imply it has any modicum of relevance, which it doesn't

Don't need too. Some of the stuff is right...but he misses the point of watching films. He watched them for plot holes. And that's it.

If he can just spot these, then he shouldn't watch movies.

yessir

 

[plasmid303]

When Batman exploded that building to fly the Bat w/bomb through, I think that's where he ejected himself without anyone noticing.

 

[intothevoid]

When Batman exploded that building to fly the Bat w/bomb through, I think that's where he ejected himself without anyone noticing.

Thats the thought I had on my 2nd viewing

 

[jrice73]

I look fwd to my third viewing with my good friend Neo (who hasn't seem it yet )



To tackle it would somehow imply it has any modicum of relevance, which it doesn't



yessir

Saw it a third time myself last night again in IMAX. Keeps me riveted every time and on the edge as well. Just great build up and monumental, emotional finish that leaves me speechless when it ends. Its the Batman story that DC would never do--the end of Batman (DKR does not count since Miller gave us that ____ty followup years later).
And the fool doing all the nitpicking--if that's what you want out of a film good for you. You're life is ____.

 

[ZaCHw117]

I don't think so. The last shot you see of batman in the cockpit is right after he flies close to the shore....

I believe he ejected there, that way he would be clear of the blast radius and close to land.

 

[intothevoid]

I don't think so. The last shot you see of batman in the cockpit is right after he flies close to the shore....

I believe he ejected there, that way he would be clear of the blast radius and close to land.

Nolans known for out-of-chronological order shots

That shot could've still been before the building gets blown

Hardly matters in any event, either explanation works for me

 

[CelticPredator]

Well here, you can re-watch the ending and try and figure it out.
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4v1hAnfy1I[/ame]

 

[Kamandi]

Batman is shown in the cockpit, over the harbour, with 5 seconds remaining. And he's been stabbed.

My wild ass guess is Nolan intended for Bruce to die but WB wouldn't allow it.

Nolan inserts some shots of Bruce leaving clues he's alive and a bunch of Inception fans are determined that Alfred didn't see what he saw.