Star Wars: Episode IX - THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

She IS **** Cheney's heart.

 

[Ce Ilhuicamina]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I was in intrigued by the thumbnail until I saw who made that video.

For all the hate that fella gives to Johnson, Kennedy and SJWs without them who knows what his channel would be about.

KK might as well be in an underground bunker, awaiting news from the outside world and hoping audiences like Solo. Kinda like in Der Untergang.

 

[TaliBane]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Daisy: "It sort of feels ridiculous..."


Yes, because you're a terrible actor!

I'm dying to know - who won Empire's Best Actor award??? Was it Gary Oldman for Darkest Hour or was it John Boyega for Last Jedi?

They were both such fine performances.

 

[RIDDICK]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Daisy: "It sort of feels ridiculous..."

Yes, because you're a terrible actor! lol

Nah, she's fine. Her acting is all over the place in these movies but that is always director's fault. I don't wanna rewatch TLJ but after rewatchin' Da Fare Awakens I was surprised. She's actually pretty damn good in the first half, but for some reason went full retard overacting in the second.

Wanna talk about terrible? Boyega is pretty awful in both. He's not even trying.

 

[EVILFACE]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Boyega is pretty much one step away from Tracy Morgan acting.

 

[RIDDICK]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Carrie's face was too plastic to form words, so she was cringeworthy in both films.

She never was a good actress to begin with tho.
So naturally I saw no problem with that.
She didn't have any roles or desire to actually "git gud" after ROTJ.

Sometimes Daisy was delivering lines like it was her first school play.

All Star Wars are school plays.
People need to stop pretending that it's anything more than a silly and cheesy fantasy for kids.
The only difference is that OT was a very nice school play and OT purists act like parents.

 

[TaliBane]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

All Star Wars are school plays.
People need to stop pretending that it's anything more than a silly and cheesy fantasy for kids.
The only difference is that OT was a very nice school play and OT purists act like parents.

The OT stands alone - the only thing with cultural relevance, resonant mythic power and startlingly original ideas, visuals and design.

All the rest - PT, ST, spinoffs, etc - is the OT performed as a school play. Starring the kids of OT purists - who in the moment think its pure magic, deepening their nostalgia, wanting it all on video.

But in truth they'd never choose to sit down and watch it in the future because all it is what it is: a school play version of the OT, and mediocre one at that.

Boyega is pretty much one step away from Tracy Morgan acting.

 

[RIDDICK]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

cultural relevance

Only in US. And US has very little culture of their own so it's kinda irrelevant too.
Obvious Flash Gordon references aside, OT is mostly inspired by European and Eastern phenomenon.

 

[TaliBane]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Only in US. And US has very little culture of their own so it's kinda irrelevant too.
Obvious Flash Gordon references aside, OT is mostly inspired by European and Eastern phenomenon.

Unclear what you mean by those first sentences.

Are you seriously suggesting that Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker were not cultural phenomenons/icons throughout Europe, U.K., Australia or Japan in the late 1970's? If they were... they were culturally relevant.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

From a certain point of view Riddick is right on both accounts.

 

[RIDDICK]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Unclear what you mean by those first sentences.

It may be uncomfortable but it is what it is.

Are you seriously suggesting that Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker were not cultural phenomenons/icons in the late 1970's?

It was and still is a pop media fad and nothing more.
Same with comic booky stuff.
Just because some people watch it, read it, eat it and wear it doesn't mean it has any cultural relevancy. Those people are not in the norm and thus doesn't affect their country's culture.

 

[Adolfo]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

I don't like to pole squat either.

Although, that's an interesting and tortuous choice: pole squat OR TLJ

pole squat wins

 

[Adolfo]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Only Death, Narcotics, being unconscious, really drunk or rated R ultra violent Sam Peckinpah murder and rape version can save Star Wars episode Nein

 

[EVILFACE]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

It may be uncomfortable but it is what it is.


It was and still is a pop media fad and nothing more.
Same with comic booky stuff.
Just because some people watch it, read it, eat it and wear it doesn't mean it has any cultural relevancy. Those people are not in the norm and thus doesn't affect their country's culture.

You just triggered SSF brah. Log out. Log out meow.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Obvious Flash Gordon references aside, OT is mostly inspired by European and Eastern phenomenon.

Don't overlook the uniquely American "western"...

 

[Adolfo]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Don't overlook the uniquely American "western"...

even gangsta film.....American as pie

 

[YoNoSe]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

RIDDICK's relationship w/ the USA

 

[Adolfo]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

RIDDICK's relationship w/ the USA

LOL..

 

[Popnfresh98]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

In a behind the scenes TLJ documentary called the director and the Jedi, Rian Johnson, speaking with someone candidly during a production meeting, explains an online effort by Russian Bots to influence the direction of the film. By now, we’re all aware of Russian Bots online and their many political goals, but it comes as a surprise to learn of their efforts around Star Wars. “It’s amazing,” Johnson explains. “There’s a coordinated effort by these Russian accounts. Hundreds of them.”

What did these highly coordinated Russian Twitter accounts want from the director of the new Star Wars film? To not kill General Hux, says Johnson. Coordinating around the hashtag #HuxLive, Russian accounts flooded Johnson’s mentions early in the production to ensure that their favorite oppressor made it through the new trilogy. Why the Russians bots love Hux is clear now — they are way into authoritarian regimes — but at the time, it appears to have been perplexing for Johnson and his collaborators on The Last Jedi.

An example of one of the tweets used to interfere with the process:



So it’s fine with ReyLo, but people making art of Hux and wanting him to live must be because they are ‘bots.’ It’s like Russian people aren’t even people anymore, only bots trying to interfere with everything rest of the world holds dear. (I mean just look at how they ‘love oppressors’ in that article)

A couple other quotes:

On Rey and Kylo’s Force bond:

“One of my favourite shots in the movie is those two touching fingers. That’s the closest thing we’ll get to a sex scene in a Star Wars movie.”

On the new trilogy:

his writing partner Ram Bergman confirmed to Empire this past weekend that they've started mapping everything out. “We’ve started. Slowly, slowly, but we’ve started. Hopefully soon we’re going to get busier.”

Johnson also quickly spoke to the publication, noting that he's "excited to figure out what it's going to be."

 

[Popnfresh98]

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - December 20, 2019

Plot points from the novelization of TLJ:

-The book reveals that The Emperor actually sensed Snoke’s existence shortly before his demise. He just wasn't entirely sure what he was sensing through the Force and didn't act on those feelings as a result.

-While Rey wasn't conceived without a father the way Anakin Skywalker supposedly was, it's revealed that her powers came as a result of the Cosmic Force, a.k.a. the will of the universe. That fell dormant once the Sith were defeated but reemerged once Luke went into exile and it became clear that the Galaxy needed a new protector. This goes some way in explaining why Rey is so powerful.

-The book kicks off with a prologue revolving around a*sequence revealing what Luke's life would have been like if he'd never left Tatooine on the Millennium Falcon. In this dream, Luke is never attacked by Tuscan Raiders, never meets Obi-Wan Kenobi, and never becomes a Jedi Knight. Instead, he marries his friend Camie and takes over his uncle's moisture farm, and lives a peaceful, contented life.

Sure, it's in a Galaxy ruled over by the Empire but that's not Luke's problem! When the hero wakes from his dream, he interprets it as a sign from the Force that big changes are coming to his life and it's obviously not long after this that Rey makes her arrival on Ahch-To to confront him.

-the book gives Han Solo a well-deserved send-off because Leia holds a small service for her old flame as the Resistance hurries to evacuate D'Qar. She admits Han probably would have hated it and with no body to bury, she instead buries a wooden figurine he carved for her the day before the Battle of Endor.*

-When it came time for Kylo Ren to pull the trigger and kill his mother, he couldn't do it and it was actually two other TIE Fighters that made the decision to blast the Resistance General. The novel reveals that his hesitance came as a result of the villain knowing that his mother wasn't angry with him and it's noted that he would have used the Force to stop those missiles had he actually had time.*
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-If Luke had no interest in remaining part of the Jedi Order, why was he still wearing the robes when he first crossed paths with Rey? Well, the book addresses this plot hole by revealing that he'd donned them because he was in the process of mustering up the courage to burn the tree containing the sacred Jedi texts and wanted to be dressed for the occasion.

-Fans were not pleased about Leia essentially snubbing Chewbacca at the end of*The Force Awakens*but this book more than makes up for that by having these two share a tender moment aboard the Millennium Falcon as they mourn for Luke and Han. This helps Leia muster up the courage to take charge of the Resistance and lead them into the future after the many losses they suffered on Crait.*

-Luke and snoke have crossed paths. Unfortunately, not much is revealed about what happened when these two met but it's confirmed in the book that Luke met Snoke while he was exploring the Galaxy looking for Jedi artefacts.

-Rey very quickly seems to master the Force, a surprise considering how long it took Luke back in the original trilogy. Well, an explanation of sorts is provided here as we learn that Supreme Leader Snoke's decision to connect her mind with that of Kylo Ren resulted in some of the villain's knowledge and skills being imprinted on her brain, thereby making her at least a little more capable.*

-General Leia's "Mary Poppins" scene was extremely controversial, mostly because it revealed that she appears to have experience of wielding the force we've never heard about before. The book elaborates on that, though, revealing that Leia is able to use the Force to take stock of how many soldiers she has left and how they're all feeling, a sign that she's actually been using her abilities for a while.*

That probably won't satisfy some fans but the book may have also laid the groundwork for how she's going to be killed off between*The Last Jedi*and*Episode IX*as it's mentioned that she was exposed to cosmic rays while out in space lol)

-One of The Last Jedi's coolest moments comes when Rey and Kylo Ren team up to do battle with Supreme Leader Snoke's Praetorian Guard. Unfortunately, it's an alliance which doesn't last particularly long and, in the movie, she vanishes after Luke's old lightsaber explodes. However, we learn here that Rey actually thought about killing Kylo while he was unconscious (as did General Hux).*

She ultimately decides that's not the right move, though, and seems optimistic that he could still turn away from the Dark Side and that he clearly has a role to play in the future of the Force.*
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-It's revealed that had Kylo killed Rey as Snoke intended, the villain was still considering killing the former Ben Solo once the Resistance was defeated because he would have served his purpose by that point.
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-It turns out that Luke didn't really want to become a Jedi Master in charge of a group of pupils. He spent years travelling the Galaxy to find various Jedi artefacts (including those sacred Jedi texts) but it was when he sensed the power within his nephew that he realised it was time to start a Jedi Academy.

What Luke didn't realise is that Snoke was manipulating him to head down this path because he had had visions of the future revealing that Ben's training would end in tragedy and that it would result in him going into exile, taking Luke off the board and stopping him from interfering with his plans.

-We still don't know when or where Supreme Leader Snoke's history will be further explored but the book does shed further light on how the villain rose to power. Apparently, the Emperor had a plan called "The Contingency" which, in the event of his death and/or the fall of the Empire, meant that weapons and resources were hidden in the Unknown Regions of the Galaxy for the group to utilise.

In this instance, the likes of*Commandant Brendol Hux and*Admiral Rae Sloane took charge after retreating following the Empire's final defeat at the Battle of Jakku but when life in that part of the Galaxy proved tough, it was Supreme Leader Snoke who took charge and helped the former Imperials survive (specifics as to how that came to pass aren't revealed but he was clearly powerful).*

-It was after Snoke took charge that Hux (not the version from*The Last Jedi; his father) started assembling a new group of Stormtroopers based on what he knew about both the Jedi and the Clonetroopers. He started stealing children at a young age to become his soldiers and forced the unwilling recruits to become loyal to The First Order by making them blindly follow their orders.

So my question is, if this is in the novelization, this all counts as canon? Or it doesn’t mean squat? Because if so, that really adds a lot and changes things up quite a bit, especially for Rey. (They realize how OP she is and give not 1, but 2 explanations for it) It’s not done particularly well, but they are trying.

However it takes Luke’s character in an even dumber direction.

It also makes it so basically every single person has thought about killing Kylo at some point