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Thrawnald McDonald
Speculation aint spoilersAgreed. You might need to spoiler that though, like I did.
Speculation aint spoilersAgreed. You might need to spoiler that though, like I did.
Since when has Star Wars done subtle lol?
Edit: I don’t consider Andor part of this haha
I vividly remember people praising that aspect of the show. But I suppose it's only a problem when Filoni does it .Much of The Mandalorian was full on wild west.
Star Wars before Filoni was a hell of a lot more subtle than after he came along. Compare Obiwan training Luke to Ahsoka. One is reminiscent of samurai movie training sequences and involves the character being "blindfolded", the other is directly copyring the clothing, gear and even name dropping Zatoichi pretty much. One is infuenced by, the other is copying. One is subtle enough to blend, the other is so obvious it stands out. Same thing with Cad Bane, another Filoni character.Since when has Star Wars done subtle lol?
Edit: I don’t consider Andor part of this haha
I must be the only one here that liked kenobi lol
I don’t think so. We’ve seen nearly all of the trailer material now. Just needing Marrock’s and Baylan’s fights with Ahsoka and they are at the location for those now. Thrawn could easily show up at the end of the next episode. He’s got to do something pretty remarkable first on Ahsoka to set up the movie IMO. There has been a LOT of build up for Thrawn so they need to deliver on him being such a threat. Then maybe tease the original trio coming into play for the movie at the end.I think anyone hoping to see Thrawn in action is going to be disappointed.
I don’t see him appearing until the last episode, and then saving him for the movie.
Star Wars before Filoni was a hell of a lot more subtle than after he came along. Compare Obiwan training Luke to Ahsoka. One is reminiscent of samurai movie training sequences and involves the character being "blindfolded", the other is directly copyring the clothing, gear and even name dropping Zatoichi pretty much. One is infuenced by, the other is copying. One is subtle enough to blend, the other is so obvious it stands out. Same thing with Cad Bane, another Filoni character.
The OT had influences, but they were not so on the nose and they were usually blended. Filoni/Disney in general has been incredibly blunt in how they reference. For example, creatures in the OT/PT were similar enough to real animals that we could understand their purpose but also different enough to be alien to us (Dewbacks are large and mostly furless beasts that can one can ride, much like an elephant, but they look nothing like an elephant. Tauntauns serve a role like that of a horse but again look very different from horses) Meanwhile, Filoni / Disney both make things directly like what we have on earth (Loth cats don't just resemble cats but they behave like them and make the same sounds, while the Wolves Filoni includes are, well, wolves, the spirit owl is, well, an owl etc etc etc).
I love how they are throwing Thrawn’s name around as if every single viewer knows who he is lolI don’t think so. We’ve seen nearly all of the trailer material now. Just needing Marrock’s and Baylan’s fights with Ahsoka and they are at the location for those now. Thrawn could easily show up at the end of the next episode. He’s got to do something pretty remarkable first on Ahsoka to set up the movie IMO. There has been a LOT of build up for Thrawn so they need to deliver on him being such a threat. Then maybe tease the original trio coming into play for the movie at the end.
Spoiler:the cut back to the cup after Sabine says: "You win this round."
difference here being that it was a budget issue so they ended up with halloween masks for background cantina dudes. they were not meant to be anything more than background extras. If ANH wasn't so low budget they would have had more bespoke creatures even in the background. Apples to OrangesWolves reminded me of Lak Sivrak in ANH.
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I never realised until just now that there was another one in the cantina.
Arleil Schous:
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Sivrak was known as "Hyena" or "Hyena-Man" on set, and Schous as "Bat-Demon Guy", "Wolfe" or "Wolfman". In Star Wars canon they're two different species: Shistavanen and Defel.
Both were based on the same werewolf Halloween mask. Rick Baker had previously adapted the one used for Arleil Schous' for 'The Thing in the Attic', a 1974 Halloween show put on by Bob Burns in which Baker wore it to portray a demon.
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We now return you to your regularly scheduled program: Ahsoka.
difference here being that it was a budget issue so they ended up with halloween masks for background cantina dudes. they were not meant to be anything more than background extras. If ANH wasn't so low budget they would have had more bespoke creatures even in the background. Apples to Oranges
.... I can see the cowboy theme (though mostly the hat) might stand out as to on-the-nose, yet the same way the eastern, classical antiquity, knights in armor, WWII, Western, Kurosawa to Leone, etc, influences are mixed in, the root sketch (while not directly manifest in the OT) speaks to those sources, when combined with the sci-fantasy-alien elements, he reads to me as archetypical SW, or rather he fits right in.
Likely Nilo Rodis-Jamero concept:
Agree, though Lucas opened the door for it, it's part of the visual and thematic language and apeal of the universe, there is not much subtle with Filoni, who more crassly apes the source material outright. As did Favreau, with his Lone Wolf & Cub reference wanting it in there, whether it fits the character Luke or not.Star Wars before Filoni was a hell of a lot more subtle than after he came along. Compare Obiwan training Luke to Ahsoka. One is reminiscent of samurai movie training sequences and involves the character being "blindfolded", the other is directly copyring the clothing, gear and even name dropping Zatoichi pretty much. One is infuenced by, the other is copying. One is subtle enough to blend, the other is so obvious it stands out. Same thing with Cad Bane, another Filoni character.
The OT had influences, but they were not so on the nose and they were usually blended. Filoni/Disney in general has been incredibly blunt in how they reference. For example, creatures in the OT/PT were similar enough to real animals that we could understand their purpose but also different enough to be alien to us (Dewbacks are large and mostly furless beasts that can one can ride, much like an elephant, but they look nothing like an elephant. Tauntauns serve a role like that of a horse but again look very different from horses) Meanwhile, Filoni / Disney both make things directly like what we have on earth (Loth cats don't just resemble cats but they behave like them and make the same sounds, while the Wolves Filoni includes are, well, wolves, the spirit owl is, well, an owl etc etc etc).
Love the sarcastic humor but the strawman nature of the comment prevented it from getting a full laugh. I never liked the ridiculously OP characters from the games either, but luckily they were never canon, neither were the cartoons truly canon (George considered only live action stuff true canon) until Disney came along and decided everything would be canon going forward, which is why we now have hyperspace whales. Sigh.I hope Starkiller uses a Star Destroyer to destroy a Death Star. Get some subtles back in this franchise.
So long as we don't resort to Adhominamans for this debate...Perhaps Walrus Man and Squid Head could discuss the creation of life in front of dancing ovaries to get back to that hallmark Lucas je ne sais quoi.
Was Straw Man in the cantina or Jabba's palace? I get so lost in the allegory sometimes.
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