Ironman 3 Spoiler/Figures Discussion

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Most important thing for characters seems to be translating the look of them. thats why Green goblin gets a lot of stick.

Killian may have similar powers to the comics Mandarin but when there is a Mandarin in the movie that is being called "The Mandarin" and looks closer to the Mandarin comic counterpart then it doesn't matter what Killian does/says.

I'm not even a big Iron Man fan and i know that they screwed up not only translating the comic character but in advertising a badass menacing villain then turning him into a joke and pushing a less "cool" villain

 

[Henry Morgan*]

The leap happens quite fast, In IM2 he had the suitcase armour which while still fantastical at least resemble reality. in this this just went up a nothc, a bit too far.

Even the telekenisis was just there at the beginning, i don't fully understand how it does it. did he inject magnets into his body so the parts know where to attatch and how did he relate that to his thoughts.



Difference being those are based on unknowing variables. The tech Stark uses is established in our reality for the most part, just slightly above ours. So it should remain in line with what is capable with tech within the next twenty years.

Btw He doesn't have magnets, he uses a chip, he desides what part to wear and when.. well he tries I guess that will be enhaced now that Pepper was infected with Extremis.

Tony will improve the serum and I assume he'll use it on himself in the future, maybe Avengers 2.. who knows

 

[Henry Morgan*]

In fact, it appears that The Mandarin is truly portrayed in this film in full force...he's just split into two different people.

Thast what I thought while I was watching the movie, I like them both, both are the Mandarin in their own specific way

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

For me Killian was Killian and Mandarin was Mandarin until he became Trevor

 

[Henry Morgan*]

Lol yeah, thats the case for everyone I guess. At first I didn't mind, now I like that idea. Before I saw the movie I was wondering if Killian was going to be a small character with the Mandarin as the main antagonist

 

[Wulf]

So, as I've said before, after watching the movie I totally want to buy the Mark 42 from Hot Toys and also from Play Imaginative if I can.

The thing is though, the 1/4th scale PI version is gonna be very expensive and in die cast.. for that kind of money and quality I want it to be perfect. They got the proportions right but I'm not sure about scale. It says the height is 46 cm on the specs.

Well that would mean that a life size Mark 42 is 184 cm tall. Can that really be? I'm trying to find some info on the internet but I can't find anything. The Mark 4 is 195 cm tall.. If the suits are all the same height, shouldn't the PI figure be about 48.8 cm tall? Can the Mark 42 really be 11 cm shorter than the Mark 4..? Anyone more educated in this matter willing to help me here?

 

[SixthScaleEdward]

at least because of Savin we get to see the best unibeam ever

EDIT: In fact, I would bet that fans would be a lot more accepting of all of this if Killian was just given a different name. I would imagine that people would be mostly okay with him not being of Asian descent, but I think fans are having a difficult time reconciling that they've combined the characters of Aldrich Killian and the Mandarin into one."[/B]

Accepting the Killiandarin aspect of the movie made my second viewing better.

For me Killian was Killian and Mandarin was Mandarin until he became Trevor

Yeah, this is probably what's causing the fracas about the movie.

 

[sky_captain]

For me Killian was Killian and Mandarin was Mandarin until he became Trevor

I never believed for a moment, that The Mandarin was the real threat.

Hence why he kind of bored me, up until the twist and the hilarious stuff that followed.

 

[Henry Morgan*]

I never believed for a moment, that The Mandarin was the real threat.

Hence why he kind of bored me, up until the twist and the hilarious stuff that followed.

That whole scene made me laug so hard I almost chocked on the hamburger was having gotta love Trevor

 

[Stealth V3teran]

I never believed for a moment, that The Mandarin was the real threat.

Hence why he kind of bored me, up until the twist and the hilarious stuff that followed.

Me too, killian gave off that villain vibe right from the start when tony fobs him off in 1999, you could tell he would become the villain with a grudge. Trev on the other hand was a complete twist lol he was great. Made me laugh so much when he did this.
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVZSD1EQU_Y[/ame]

 

[rego]

Btw He doesn't have magnets, he uses a chip, he desides what part to wear and when.. well he tries I guess that will be enhaced now that Pepper was infected with Extremis.

Tony will improve the serum and I assume he'll use it on himself in the future, maybe Avengers 2.. who knows

tony says in the ending monolog that pepper has extremis removed

 

[SixthScaleEdward]

IIRC, he only said he plans to do something about it.

 

[rego]

IIRC, he only said he plans to do something about it.

no he says:

Spoiler:

"as promised i got pepper sorted out...it took some tinkering...then i thought to myself why stop there?"

which queues in to the scene of him having the shrapnel removed from his body. its playing off one another implying they both had their "aliments removed"

 

[SixthScaleEdward]

no he says:

Spoiler:

"as promised i got pepper sorted out...it took some tinkering. then i thought to myself why stop there?"

which queues in to the scene of him having the shrapnel removed from his body. its playing off one another implying they both had their "aliments removed"

Ooh right!

 

[Henry Morgan*]

Are you sure extremis was removed? it felt more like he fixed it instead or removing it ..

Anyway, I'll likely watch the movie a few more times

 

[rego]

doesn't say specifically what happened. just a brief wrap up that its not active anymore in some fashion to get it out of the way since its use as a plot device is over

Spoiler:

before saying "he got it sorted out" in the ending, he promised her he would find a way to undo what was done after the ending fight scene.

 

[Hound]

Well after seeing the film, Tony, 42, and Patriot are the only ones so far that are on my list. Everything else will just be extras, though I'll be on the lookout for what else Hot Toys announces.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

That whole scene made me laug so hard I almost chocked on the hamburger was having gotta love Trevor

Me too, killian gave off that villain vibe right from the start when tony fobs him off in 1999, you could tell he would become the villain with a grudge. Trev on the other hand was a complete twist lol he was great. Made me laugh so much when he did this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVZSD1EQU_Y

You knew Killian would be a villain but more a Justin Hammer side villain and not the big bad. Can't say that Trevor wasn't funny as hell but he wasn't right for an Iron
Man movie.

I don't get how people got really pissed at how Green Goblin wasn't in a more accurate costume, how Dr Doom wasn't done correct but accept that The Mandarin was turned into a joke and adapted much worse than those.

 

[John_Salmon]

Is it just me that was quite happy at Tony beginning to show some mind control over his armour?

I've seen people complaining on here, and on Facebook that it's a step too far for him to be able to control his armour mentally, or that Killian can breathe fire.

I, for one, am ecstatic they decided to actually make a comic book film! Thanks to Batman, comic films now feel like they have to be darker, more edgier and with a 'realistic' feel to them. I don't want that, I want colourful guys in costumes beating the snot out of each other.

In the comis, the extemis virus allowed people to breathe fire, so Killian does it in the movie. Awesome.

In the comics, Tony's bio-suit that goes under his armour seeps through his pores before the suit assembles around him. Whilst that doesn't quite happen in this film, it's definitely closer.

We're talking about a regular bloke who doesn't get absolutely scrambled every time he takes a hit in a suit of armour, I think we lost realism a long time ago.

As for the figures, I can't say I'm desperate to buy any of the IM armours from the film as they just don't get enough time. The Mark 42 looks cool, but most of the time it's either out of action or Tony is only wearing one part of it.

The Iron Patriot looks cool, but he barely gets used so not sure if he warrants a spot on the shelf.

The Mandarin on the other hand, looks fantastic, was performed brilliantly (pre and post-twist) and would look good on the shelf.

 

[Ultron-7]

You knew Killian would be a villain but more a Justin Hammer side villain and not the big bad. Can't say that Trevor wasn't funny as hell but he wasn't right for an Iron
Man movie.

I don't get how people got really pissed at how Green Goblin wasn't in a more accurate costume, how Dr Doom wasn't done correct but accept that The Mandarin was turned into a joke and adapted much worse than those.

I agree, Green Goblin and Doom were done much better than the Mandarin, i can see what Marvel were trying to do but it wasn't right. No-one truly expects an amazing story from a Marvel film, were mainly looking for our comic book heroes and stories being brought to life on the big screen.

Iron Man's had the 2 worst villains so far, Whiplash and Mandarin .

Anyway the most disappointing thing for me about the film is that it didn't do much to further the MCU