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So have you abstained from collecting over the last 2 years?
That's fine, your choice.
Well it's clear your ceiling of "worth" at this scale (or maybe any scale) is approx $500. Again, that's fine your choice.
Others have a slightly higher ceiling at this scale $500-$1000 and then you have others who will drop $2,000-$5,000 at this scale. That's their choice.
Yes I do have more posts about SSC complaining about SSC than you do Xm, do you know why? Because I have spent thousands of dollars on both companies products, and currently SSC makes up the largest percentage of statues in my collection. As you know IM is my main collection focus so that on going disaster only fuels the passion. So, imo I have a right to voice my concern about their SS end products when they continue to disappoint for a 5+ year stretch b/c in the end I am looking to buy the product.
You and other naysayers who flock to these discussions like flies on a turd haven't spent (and likely never will spend) a single penny on XM. So, you have no stake in the outcome of the end products and you never will. Not owning a single product they've produced, you continue to weigh in with opinions on XM product quality, worth, design, etc. This is where y'all say "Oh my buddy got one and I checked it out this weekend. Overrated blah blah."
The majority of people (or in Magneto's case - ALL of the people) forking out the (sometimes very extreme) coin to secure the pieces aren't complaining when they get them in hand, that should tell you something about XM product quality, worth, design, etc but you continue to ignore it.
Importing collectibles will cost way more than anything domestic. Covered this already. And again, your 'worth' ceiling is ~ $500 so these products clearly aren't for you.
You're really all over the map here, but okay. That's like me saying:
CR Superman should cost 50 dollars. Iron patriot should cost 50 dollars. Godzilla should cost 50 dollars. Red Sonya should cost 50 dollars.
I can go on.
Consider yourself lucky.
I'm on record stating I'm not of fan of XM Hulk, so we agree on something. Pretty sure XM Cap was a finalist or top 4 for statue of the year last year, so the majority don't share your opinion there. Same will go for Wolverine, as there may be just a single not-so-glamorous product review on the entire internet, the rest are stellar.
Alright you're finally on topic
Where is this $450 price hike statistic coming from? Sideshow? I know it isn't any other company who has had a product climb $450.
In fact I put lots of IMO all over the place
Well if you're good with railroading a thread then I'll drink to that.
Now you're just reaching b/c the reality is you there's no counter to the points I made, which you agree are valid. Instead of just agreeing with me though, you've opted to make it personal and claim I "act" like "better, more legit, more exciting"etc when there's no truth in that.
Wait, "more exciting"? The hell are you talking about dude?
I think I was at this thread before you
So? Congratulations I guess?
I just watched a video on astrophysics, does that make me an expert who should judge the value of another astrophysicist's work? I guess so.
Do I have to grab and spoon and taste dog poop in order to conclude it won't taste good? Again, you're reaching and making little sense. Anyone with a working pair of eyes knows that piece was a mess. Even the people who bought it and posted pics confirmed paint bleeds, etc.
Good!
You seem to be confused, as my frustration lies with the SS Marvel & IM lines, not your posts. You've made it clear ~$500 is the ceiling for what's "worth it" to you and I'll repeat for the Nth time - there's nothing wrong with that. :Everyone knows XM products retail for over $500, I don't know why you keep bringing them up regardless of the conversation going on anywhere.
What you're saying is that if you lived anywhere but North America, that Sideshow wouldn't be worth it to you. Again, we agree.
~$500 is your price point, we get it.
Hulk to Hulk, ok.
Superman to Wolverine, uh what?
You're all over the map dude. 'Overseas' isn't a geographic location. How about you pick a country?
Agreed.
That's great, like I said you're lucky and SSC CS team has always been great from my experience as well.
You need to have better tastes in what you collect like me.... I know when I see something it will be good quality..
I always was... I think you took it into another area... You took it as me bashing XM... I am bashing high prices that's all. 850.00 would drive me and many other collectors out of the hobby... It's not that I can't afford it.. I just can't justify it.. I have a few very expensive pieces... But they mean a lot to me... I would hate it if a character like Superman went for 850.00 because while I really like him I would have a hard time justifying 850.00. Hulk maybe but he is my fav type of collectible statue
When you trash the quality (and further the cost) of a company's product, then yes, you are bashing the company.
I get that $750+ would turn some people off, nothing wrong with that and that was the gist of my initial question.
Okie dokie.
I tend to enjoy our discussions... Please never take my comments as dissing on XM... I thing the overall presentation they have is great... If Cap had a better face sculpt then I would think without a doubt that it was the best.. If Wolverine had a slightly different pose and head sculpt I would be Jelly all over the place
To be fair if you bash the artistic style then that's fine, we all have different tastes. But when you start in on the 'quality' and 'worth' of the product then we are going to butt heads, but you're the butt head.
savageHULK
Super Freak
Out with the old in with the new. When does my hulk pf ship!?!? Haha
comicbookguy
Super Freak
One things for sure is ive never seen an XM statue u til a local collector showed me 2 days ago. XM is so awesome! Thier statues are even a bit bigger than SS and the bases are like twice the. Size of ss biggest base along with triple the changeable switch out parts. Pics don't do XM justice at all. In person they are a F@$@ing beast. So well sculpted and so much details. Maybe that's why the XM statues cost more because you would get a slightly bigger PF, triple the switch out options on the base and statue for most of them, and a double size massive base with more parts. But as prices I do admit I'm a bargin shopper myself and love to save mo ey whee I can in order to be able to stay in this over priced hobby.
comicbookguy
Super Freak
Are we talking about the hulk PF red, green and grey on this thread? Or is there another new hulk pf that is coming? I see the title of this thread just says hulk PF??
savageHULK
Super Freak
Lol what? With the exception of hulk, every xm statue has seemed slightly smaller than its SSC counterpart. (With the exception of black widow too I think). Right? XM is 1:4 but it's definitely not bigger than SSC... Bases don't count.
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New one, just announced during their Online Comic Con. It just went up on their site yesterday, preview of it, ES of 500, not up for PO yet though. Pretty crazy, you should go to their site and check it out.
comicbookguy
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Yes I saw only black widow and magneto. Both is massive and bigger than all my ss reg size PF. Details and extra parts are out of this world. My first time seeing XM in person. So blown away by the actual statues. I have no idea how I can collect these now that it's nearly impossible to PO them in the USA along with the 4k - 5k magneto.
Wha??? Another hulk PF?? You must be joking right?
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My IM is not smaller than the SSC or IS 1:4 counter parts.
Add in the bases and the display space you'll need is probably greater on most.
Godzilla is priced at $800.
Sleep icon b/c you want to talk about XM over and over again when the topic was Sideshow.
Fly on poop when the convo began, not dog.
You're welcome to an opinion however ill informed it may be about the quality, value and worth of a company's products you do not own, and I venture have never seen in person. If you dislike the artistic style, no issue with that.
Owning multiple 1:4 IM products from SSC I have a very firm concept of the quality, worth and value of Sideshow's 1:4 IM offerings. I don't need to waste money on IP to know it's terrible, your logic is very flawed there. Do I need to buy every burger at McDonald's to know they are atrocious? It only takes one.
Again I brought it up because of the whole "would you pay" and "exactly" post that you had earlier... I used XM because they were at that price point already just like Quadcent did... I guess since he agreed with you he did not get an ear full
The
post I made was actually after PorkchopExpress' post, so your jab about Quadcent's agreement failed miserably. I get into it with him every time he starts his rhetoric. Who cares? Stay focused boy.
Random characters from different licenses, whatever. If you think any company is sculpting that base with all those switch out parts, including multiple LED compartments, an immaculate paint app and top of the line quality control on it to boot and only charging a hundred bucks you my friend are very mistaken.
You talked about 'overseas' but never specified a country, so you pick one and do the leg work.
I am glad you took that well... I was not sure even with the LOL and winks and capital Just Kidding
I think if we were in the same room together you would not think my tone was that of bashing... Much gets lost in the translation of the written word and it's easy to add ones own "voice" to what they see written... No insult was meant towards XM or it's fans.
Probably, but after a year of XM/SS debates sparring I'm ready to go at the drop of a hat
Again what is worth 1000.00 to one person may not be worth 5.00 to the next I get that... I did not mean to come across as bashing the "quality" I was saying that it the quality is the same as the classic HUL PF I don't think the price is right at XM or SSC.... that all... I am not sure how the quality argument got going and that might have been my fault. I will have to go back and read what I wrote. I know they from watching the videos (Especially the guys review from the other forum) that the quality is there.
CBG agrees with you about XM.... I win
Damn you cbg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RobertoBagg10
Super Freak
Could'nt agree more Jaws
thats exactly how i felt about the OG Hulk PF's and still do to this very day Despite my love for Iron Man, no other statue has brought me as much excitement, joy or such a jaw dropping moment than when i first opened the box of my OG Green Hulk a few years ago...it doesnt happen very often and i'll never forget that reaction lol So you can imagine how i felt when a few months ago i was lucky enough to score an OG Grey Hulk!
Seriously, you can bring out another 100 Hulk statues but those two will never ever lose their appeal...i like to call them timeless classics 
Well I was a different collector back then... Having said that... Just because I think it's the best does not mean its my Fav... Lobo is one of the top SSC pieces also IMO but far from my fav. Just stating that the Hulk is an amazing piece and one of, if not the all time best all around statues SSC has ever done... It's just not my fav... If it was I would have rebought a long time ago. Also as I have mentioned... No income makes you do stupid things
I can bet a million dollars that if you landed an XM Magneto at retail, you'd be creaming in your pants when you got him, and wouldn't make the same mistake selling him off the way you sold off that Og Sideshow Hulk years back. You make no sense when you say that you'd sell the XM Magneto in a heartbeat because you have no connection to the character, yet you openly admitted that you have absolutely no connection to Lobo, but you decided to buy him anyway. So why haven't you sold Lobo "in a heartbeat" yet? I know why....it's the same reason why you wouldn't sell XM's Magneto in a heartbeat if he was sitting in your living room today.
Are you kidding me when you say you wouldn't buy XM's Magneto for $450 if Sideshow made it and sold it for that price due to lack of love? You JUST bought SS's Lobo for $600, and again, you admitted there is no connection you have with that character. C'mon Jaws...
Sometimes I think you like to call 'black' when everyone else calls 'white' just to hear yourself talk.
I like Lobo more as a character and I like the statue better. Also if Lobo cost 850.00 I would have passed.
I may sell lobo in the future... A heartbeat if you will if his value shot up like Magneto... Perhaps That is were you misunderstood me... I would sell Magneto at the profit.. But in all honesty I would not buy him even at retail unless it was to flip him... Lobo looks cooler and I do read his comics. I have no real connection becasue I did not read him when I was younger. I also love Sculpts with huge muscles, Horror movies, Alice Cooper, Rob Zombie, Rock n Roll and Bad Assness
. He will also venture into the rest of my house at Halloween time. Not to mention... Lobo was without question an impulse buy But he is one of the finest pieces I have seen and I like him enough as a character and he goes with enough things that I like that I pulled the trigger.I think Magneto is fantastic... He has no place in my collection.
I think I am pretty consistant with that.
I got Lobo cause I loved his look and sculpt and he fits the rest of my collection.
Also... The Mistake I made selling Hulk was two things... 1. I was a stay at home dad thus no job. He was the only comic character I owned and I thought I wanted to have Movie statues not comics. (Funny cause I have more Comic then film now) 2. It was not and still is not my fav Hulk sculpt.. It;'s great and I want it more for the fact that I know have all the other Hulks. I never planned on having more then one Hulk... Yet here I am with all but one.. One that I use to have
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No harm no foul, dude. Just trying to make sense of what you say and why/how you say it. Thanks for the reply.
This thread got soiled :/
