1/6th Scale IG-88 Figure LINK IN 1ST POST!

[TaliBane]

Pardon the imprecision of my language. I don't give the same kind of damn about this as some of you.

What I mean is that the overall situation for Sideshow has changed. There are obviously details of the current business situation between Disney/LFL and their licensors that has given rise to the lack of new output by Sideshow, particularly in the way of 1:6 ST figures. Hot Toys is a competitor now and the business model previously employed by Sideshow is obsolete. The expectations customers have established based on the old model are null and void. (Oh, look...I said assumptions in my original post, not contracts. You're welcome for the clarification.)

But the point still stands that v.1 is v.1 and nothing will ever change that. This is v.2. No one is violating the sacred 2000 unit ES.

You mean changed as in... Sideshow selling their line of SW OT figures side-by-side with (both as distributor for and competitor to) a major Asian Manufacturer who produces slightly higher quality figures that originally cost more than Sideshow's, but are technically for the "Asian market" and Sideshow's technically for the U.S. market?

That was the situation for Sideshow from the very start - since the very first SW figure Sideshow ever produced, and it was the situation all along.

Hot Toys has produced less than a dozen unique SW figures from the OT - and that includes every single thing up to today... teased, announced, released. That is in the nearly two years since the "big" HT/SW announcement in July 2014. Not even an average of six unique OT figs a year so far.

Medicom released nearly double that number of 1/6 (Sideshow's descriptions, not mine) SW OT figures over the first 5-7 years of Sideshow making SW OT figures. If you include Medi PT and re-issue ("v.2" or more distinct variants like TC-14) figures, Medicom would have come close to averaging six figures a year.

Overall situation change for Sideshow? Yeah, but... not as great as you'd think. And forget the SW ST. A company like Sideshow could easily clean up by simply offering SW OT figures for the whole next decade.



And... they redo three small discs that sit on the back and drop the light-up stand and that's a "v.2" IG-88? Only to the lawyers.

Proto looks nice.

That's actually the new Sideshow official motto.

They heard people said it so much, but what they didn't realize is it was mostly said when comparing how the prod fig came out.

But yeah, in all seriousness, Silentsurfer also did an unbelievable job on the first IG prototype paint-up. The production figure came about 7/10 of the way to matching it, but even that was pretty impressive.

 

[loki2371]

Does his head even light up anymore? Nothing stated in the description and only one photo had it red, but Sideshow loves to use photoshop to make their crap look better. They give all their PF statue photo's pretty glowy lightsabers, yet most don't have a light up feature anymore. And also didn't the original have a holster for the Stormtrooper gun?? You $**k Sideshow!! Charge $25 more, tell us you improved the paint when I don't even remember any complaints about the original, and take a bunch of wanted features away ... .... The only thing I even remotely want from them is if they ever make the 1:6 Mcquarie Vader, other than that I think I'm done with them. Tired of their games and pricing and QC issues. They need to find themselves as a company again to remember how they got to where they are. Actually valuing their products and fans, and not just the money they make.

 

[devilof76]

Medicom was no competition for Sideshow.

And were it not for the money they make, they would make nothing.

 

[Wor-Gar]

New pictures Here
P.O up later today.

$199.99. Better price then I expected.

What was the original price?

 

[Aliaz]

What was the original price?

$174.99.

 

[Wor-Gar]

The original came with a soft pleather belt as well. The grenades do look resculpted. The rifle looks better in color.

But no Ex blade. And no light-up base.


Now if they would only reveal ZUCKUSS so we can move on with the Bounty Hunters.

 

[Matt S]

We. Never. Learn.

Interesting choice of words there, sideshow. Kinda how I feel collecting Sideshow items

 

[davejames]

Does his head even light up anymore? Nothing stated in the description and only one photo had it red, but Sideshow loves to use photoshop to make their crap look better. They give all their PF statue photo's pretty glowy lightsabers, yet most don't have a light up feature anymore. And also didn't the original have a holster for the Stormtrooper gun?? You $**k Sideshow!! Charge $25 more, tell us you improved the paint when I don't even remember any complaints about the original, and take a bunch of wanted features away ... .... The only thing I even remotely want from them is if they ever make the 1:6 Mcquarie Vader, other than that I think I'm done with them. Tired of their games and pricing and QC issues. They need to find themselves as a company again to remember how they got to where they are. Actually valuing their products and fans, and not just the money they make.

Yeah I was wondering that too. It's curious they have so many close up shots of the head that aren't lit up at all.

The price is good enough I was ready to jump at this right away... but no light up head removes an awful lot of the cool factor for this figure for me.

 

[BoosterGold06]

New pictures Here
P.O up later today.

$199.99. Better price then I expected.

That looks really cool, I'm going to have to get this one.

 

[Getoninja]

And as I keep pointing out, I saw a non-ex IG sell for $235 on eBay just a couple of months ago, so yeah, the prices on this had definitely gone higher but if you were patient, it could be had for $50 over original retail.... or $25 over new retail minus a light-up stand (that sells for over $50-70 on its own,) depending on how you want to look at it.

but what if there is about 20 people wanting that IG-88 at $235 and the only few on Ebay are ending around $400.00.
And those people have financial issues whether from, children, family, rent, mortgage, job, etc, or some people have a certain price they want to pay or maybe don't find it morally right to pay scalper prices.
Sorry but users do have actual life's outside the board besides toys

By the way, I thought the whole argument with Sideshow was original limited pieces getting reissued and not about investment purpose but limited purpose.

One other thing. Disney is going to milk the hell out of the SW license and have already done so. Movies, toys, games, clothes, books, etc, etc...
So , don't be surprise if more figures get reissued.
Heck if I owned the SW license I would be doing the same thing

 

[JCFETT]

daaaamn I was hoping to pick up a spare axe.

Don't know why the regular came with the axe holster and no axe, I can't live with myself knowing the empty holder is just sitting there on his back. If the holder wasn't there I wouldn't even care. But NOOOOOO they left the holder as some sort of messed up way to taunt us regular version owners.

Maybe I'll just put like a he-man sword in the holder or something lawlzzz

 

[Matt S]

Honestly a $20 increase isn't bad all things considered. I must say that when i did own the EX version, the exclusive was nice.......

 

[galactiboy]

I didn't realize how much IG-88 was selling for... Sideshow has a figure that sells really well on the aftermarket then goes ahead and torpedoes it's value

The original came with a soft pleather belt as well. The grenades do look resculpted. The rifle looks better in color.

But no Ex blade. And no light-up base.

Nice how Sideshow will relrelease a figure to scalp their own customers... I wonder what you could get for an regular IG-88 w/o the light up base? I bet you'd it'd be about $200.

 

[TonTon]

I wonder what you could get for an regular IG-88 w/o the light up base? I bet you'd it'd be about $200.

I had one last year and sold it for $175 on another forum (kept the base). Then eventually decided to sell the base to the buyer for $25.

 

[Mad Old Lu]

I didn't realize how much IG-88 was selling for... Sideshow has a figure that sells really well on the aftermarket then goes ahead and torpedoes it's value


Nice how Sideshow will relrelease a figure to scalp their own customers... I wonder what you could get for an regular IG-88 w/o the light up base? I bet you'd it'd be about $200.

But it's not like Sideshow sees any of that money!


Anyway, I really do wonder if the eyes will light up on this new release. That would be a major downgrade from the original. It's indeed very suspicious that there's no mention of it in the description and only one photo has the eyes lit.

 

[galactiboy]

I assume it would almost cost more to retool a head to leave it out, but it would be pretty funny if they removed the feature. In all honesty it wasn't a great light up feature and I don't think I've used it since I unboxed him But still nice to have and an extra feature like that does help to justify the higher cost.

IG-88 really is one of the best figures they ever released.

 

[Getoninja]

I didn't realize how much IG-88 was selling for... Sideshow has a figure that sells really well on the aftermarket then goes ahead and torpedoes it's value

Nice how Sideshow will relrelease a figure to scalp their own customers... I wonder what you could get for an regular IG-88 w/o the light up base? I bet you'd it'd be about $200.

I think the reason for IG-88 getting reissued is to go along with release of 4-LOM, Boba Fett 2.0 and maybe a 2.0 Bossk release. I don't think Sideshow is conspiring the for Ebay prices. If Sideshow was, the reissue wouldn't be $200 but $400. Also, how does Sideshow benefit from crashing the IG-88 Ebay market from only a few figures on Ebay? that is really confusing the hell out of me, I'm trying to think but nothing is happening.

And I thought the whole argument was , limited pieces getting reissued and not about the after market value.

And yeah, Sideshow is scalping its customers for only $25.00 with a figure that missing the lightup base and in new package.
But isn't this what the current market is for most 1/6 scale figures by Hot Toys or Sideshow at the $200 mark versus when IG-88 was first released and HT and Sideshow had their figures set at the same price point.

By the way, you don't like, you don't have to buy. But I will surly buy the reissued IG-88 and nobodies opinion is going to change that.

 

[Getoninja]

daaaamn I was hoping to pick up a spare axe.

Don't know why the regular came with the axe holster and no axe, I can't live with myself knowing the empty holder is just sitting there on his back. If the holder wasn't there I wouldn't even care. But NOOOOOO they left the holder as some sort of messed up way to taunt us regular version owners.

Maybe I'll just put like a he-man sword in the holder or something lawlzzz

if you're talking about the holster, that is made for the E-11 blaster. The holster has two small "eye lets" for the Axe.
But I plan on making my own Axe, looks like a simple design.

 

[galactiboy]

I think the reason for IG-88 getting reissued is to go along with release of 4-LOM, Boba Fett 2.0 and maybe a 2.0 Bossk release. I don't think Sideshow is conspiring the for Ebay prices. If Sideshow was, the reissue wouldn't be $200 but $400. Also, how does Sideshow benefit from crashing the IG-88 Ebay market from only a few figures on Ebay? that is really confusing the hell out of me, I'm trying to think but nothing is happening.

And I thought the whole argument was , limited pieces getting reissued and not about the after market value.

And yeah, Sideshow is scalping its customers for only $25.00 with a figure that missing the lightup base and in new package.
But isn't this what the current market is for most 1/6 scale figures by Hot Toys or Sideshow at the $200 mark versus when IG-88 was first released and HT and Sideshow had their figures set at the same price point.

By the way, you don't like, you don't have to buy. But I will surly buy the reissued IG-88 and nobodies opinion is going to change that.

It can and usually does affect the aftermarket value when something is reissued/rereleased... aside from taking a piece that was limited (both versions of IG-88 still say limited on their product page in the archives) and reissuing it anyway, the figures will most likely no longer retain the same value... so that's what I mean about torpedoing the value.

As a collector I do have some concern about the aftermarket value (and no it's not because I see them as an investment or my retirement plan )... and reissuing a piece does affect that. Sideshow doesn't profit from devaluing figures, but they do profit from rereleasing a figure without having to put in new R&D. And they are diluting the value of the original figure. Had they made 5,000 instead of the original 3,250 (750 ex, 2500 reg) then they should have charged less four years ago. But they did charge what was an appropriate price at the time as the figures did eventually sell out, but it did take a few months after they were shipping.


And trust me, I don't care if you buy the figure or not. I don't respect the direction Sideshow has taken but good for you that you can get IG-88 for $200.

 

[Getoninja]

It can and usually does affect the aftermarket value when something is reissued/rereleased... aside from taking a piece that was limited (both versions of IG-88 still say limited on their product page in the archives) and reissuing it anyway, the figures will most likely no longer retain the same value... so that's what I mean about torpedoing the value.

As a collector I do have some concern about the aftermarket value (and no it's not because I see them as an investment or my retirement plan )... and reissuing a piece does affect that. Sideshow doesn't profit from devaluing figures, but they do profit from rereleasing a figure without having to put in new R&D. And they are diluting the value of the original figure. Had they made 5,000 instead of the original 3,250 (750 ex, 2500 reg) then they should have charged less four years ago. But they did charge what was an appropriate price at the time as the figures did eventually sell out, but it did take a few months after they were shipping.


And trust me, I don't care if you buy the figure or not. I don't respect the direction Sideshow has taken but good for you that you can get IG-88 for $200.

I understand being upset when a limited piece gets reissued, that point I understand clearly.

But what I don't understand to think a company is out to get your investment personally.
I been collecting toys since the 80s and since then so many toys from Transformers, to Masters of the Universe have been reissued with the original toy market to drop in price. This is the gamble one takes when investing money in collectibles, no different for the stock or housing market. The market will never be the same, its goes up, then goes, then goes up.
Also there has been thousands of limited piece from Sideshow, Hasbro, Mattel, EFX, barbie, Beanie babies, stamps, etc, etc that never go up in value and sometimes drop price. Also sometimes these pieces go on clearance. Again part of investing in collectibles.

I also collect sneakers and for the past 10 years the market has been up and down from reasons like the change in fashion and teens wearing different sneakers from Kayne West signing to Adidas for his own shoe line to Jordan raising their prices leading collectors/posers to only buy iconic colors.

But at least you own up to it that you collect limited pieces for only investment purpose.

The problem with me, I collect purely for the joy of collecting and not for investment purpose.