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andrewm said:
Are there any leaked photos of Negan? I thought we would have seen some by now!

Also if they dont do the lucille head smash scene with one of our beloved characters its going to be pretty upsetting. then again negans forsure going to be watered down from the start.
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Not that I'm aware of...Not yet anyways. :lol There was that leaked clip of Negan "practicing his swing." Have you seen that? I think its in this thread somewhere. I can pm it to you if you havent seen it. I think I have it saved.
 
Okee dokey...Here's Sunday's summary 611"Knots Untie"

Episode 11, Knots Untie, another efficient and interesting table setting episode that introduces the Hilltop colony and expands on the threat that Negan poses without showing him or the Saviors, of course.

Jesus tells the gang about the Hilltop Colony and hopes to establish diplomatic bonds between the communities for trading (he noticed that Alexandria runs low on food, but has a lot of armory). A group heads off with him to check it out. The group includes Rick, Michonne, Glenn, Maggie, Daryl and Abraham. On their way, they notice an overturned car at a gas station or something. Jesus says the car belongs to his community and he wants to check for survivors ("we don't have many fighters"). The others suspect that it might be a trap, check inside the station anyway and pick up 4 people alive and (more or less) well after killing some walkers. One of the saved guys, named Harlan, mentions later in the caravan that he's a doctor, specifically a gynecologist after he learns that Maggie is pregnant. Glenn doesn't seem very happy that the guy is possibly about to see his wife's vag.

They arrive at the Hilltop and the saved people help to establish some trust and get them in (the guards only have spears anyway, no guns, or more specifically no bullets left). They bring the gang to their leader Gregory, who immediately turns out to be an arrogant ******* who tells the group condescendingly to clean themselves up before they talk. Rick is already sick of him and tells Maggie to take care of the diplomacy. Maggie attempts to make a deal, trading food for armory and medicine, but Gregory isn't having any of it, is condescending again (he repeatedly calls her Natalie), demands that they work for the food and no deal is made.

Later, another Hilltop group returns from a trip, obviously decimated. Gregory wonders where the rest is and one of them, named Ethan, answers that they were killed by Negan and that he was ordered by the Saviors to send a message to his fellow hilltop folks, so that Negan leaves his brother Craig alive, who was captured. He proceeds to stab Gregory, which is the message. A fight ensues, Rick kills Ethan, Abraham is almost choked to death, everybody calms down again and Gregory is wounded but alive. Jesus explains that the Saviors are a group of violent marauders who regularly demand resources for the community's safety. Daryl mentions that they killed a bunch of the Saviors quite easily, proclaims that Negan is a bluffer and that they will take care of him. Later, Maggie has another talk with the recovering Gregory and turns the tables on him. She professes that her group knows how to deal with guys like the Saviors. She offers to save the captured guy and get rid of the Saviors, but demands half of the Hilltop's resources as a one-off. Gregory has no other choice than to agree.

There's a subplot involving Abraham throughout the episode where he apparently still struggles with his adrenaline addiction/PTSD/whatever and wonders if it's possible for him to settle down and have a family. He asks Glenn and Maggie, if they think it'll work out with the child (the answer is yes). Also, he obviously wonders which woman is the ideal partner to settle down. The episode begins with him and Sasha returning from patrolling, he's flirting with her, but she tells him that she changed her shift and Eugene will now be his partner. Later he's in bed with Rosita but thinks about Sasha. At the end of the episode, after he was almost choked to death, he apparently comes to the conclusion that settling down and raising a family in this world isn't an option for him.

The episode ends with another demand from Maggie. She demands an ultrasound because they have the devices at Hilltop, and the group looks at the pictures of the unborn child emotionally while driving back to Alexandria.
Almost no goodies for Richonners after last episode. Rick and Carl have a quick talk about it and Carl's cool with it. Rick and Michonne briefly hold hands while driving. No sightings of Carol, Morgan, Tara, Eugene, Gabriel or the Alexandrians. Denise has a brief scene with Daryl where she gives him a self-made cake as traveling fare...Daryl: "I hope it tastes better than it looks. It looks like ****."
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WTF.
AMC begins cracking down on 'The Walking Dead' spoilers | Examiner.com

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Looks like Negan may appear...early.

Gimple: “There have been articles pinpointing exactly when Negan shows up, and that’s a bit disappointing, because they may not be entirely true,” he said. “There’s kind of a build up. But you might even see him next episode. Absolutely. Well, sort of. Well, definitely. Well, maybe. Maybe not. But possibly.”
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'The Walking Dead' Showrunner Teases Negan's Arrival
 
averagejo said:
No spoiler tags needed in this thread.


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Thread is titled "SPOILERS & RUMORS for The Walking Dead TV Series". I shared a comic spoiler. Don't assume that because a person is open to TV spoilers it means they want comic spoilers. Hence the spoiler tag.
 
Looks to me like this is for the tv series only (posting w/out spoilers tags).
However out of courtesy and thought for othrr members it might be an idea to put any spoilers (inc comics) in the tags, just to be nice but its not a rule..
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"Not Tomorrow Yet" will pick up right after the events of last week. A new chapter for Rick and his group has started, they finally met a peaceful and organized community. Even if Gregory, their leader, was a bit of an *******, he wasn’t a psychopath or a cannibal. It was a nice change to meet regular people, who didn't want to steal, take or murder. They are almost like Rick’s group, except they're weak and they can’t fight but they have crops and animals.

The other big change (since it’s one of the theme of this season) in last week episode was Rick’s behavior. There’s a new Rick in town, he’s no longer the cold and suspicious leader. He decided to trust Jesus. Even if he was still cautious, he and his group could have walked into a deadly trap. Luckily, Rick was right to trust him and meeting the Hilltop community will change the Alexandrians’ lives forever. As the Hilltop is weak, Negan and his Saviors are taking advantage of them, offering them a sense of protection (not killing them) in exchange for food and medicine. But as their demands are escalating (Gregory’s head…), an obvious deal was made by Rick: he will kill the Saviors in exchange for food, since food has become such an issue for Alexandria over the past weeks.
It’s a very risk deal that Rick took, and a new kind of risk. Since the show has started, Rick and his group has killed to survive, for their own protection but what Rick is asking is to kill people who didn’t attack them first. The Saviors could attack Alexandria and own it like they do for the Hilltop community, but they haven’t. So, of course Rick’s decision will cause some tensions in "Not Tomorrow Yet". A character will be opposed to Rick’s point of view, but he might find it hard to get someone else to support his/her idea.


"Not Tomorrow Yet" will be a different episode, clearly Season 6 B isn’t constructed as Season 6A. It’s no longer a couple of characters by episode, now The Walking Dead huge cast can share more scenes and episodes together. Except from one major character, all the characters will appear in this week episode. And Carol, who has been more discreet those past few weeks, will finally feature prominently in the episode ! Nothing could make me happier, she’s such a rich and complex character.
We haven't seen much of Carol ever since her altercation with Morgan, and it'll be revealed Morgan and her haven't talked since that incident, but they will finally have a talk in this week episode, in a very meaningful place. It will be clear in "Not Tomorrow Yet" that Carol has something on her mind. Maybe it's Morgan's philosophy of life that has affected her. She killed a lot and sometimes quite coldly, but she always felt obliged to do it, to protect her group and herself. Or maybe it's something else on her mind.
And here’s a list of what else you can expect from "Not Tomorrow Yet" :

- The episode will open on a very different and special scene. It might be one the weirdest opening scene ever. For 4 minutes, it felt like it wasn’t The Walking Dead I was watching but a different show. It was fun.
- There will be a very intense and stressful long scene, and there will be blood. You'll be glued to your seats. Anything can happen on the show, that's why it's so good.
- One character will strongly disagree about one of Rick’s choices, and I must say I agree with that character.
- A character will express what Carol represents for the community and he will have all the right words. It'll be quite a touching scene.
- One couple will have a very hard time, while another one will say “I love you” for the first time, but maybe not for the right reasons.
- There will two songs used in "Not Tomorrow Yet", and they’ll be perfect. It’s so rare to have music on the show, it really gives a meaning when it happens.
- One of the walkers in "Not Tomorrow Yet" will be particularly disgusting and scary. She kinda reminded me of Corpse Bride.
- Carol will cook some more cookies, but this time there won’t be wolves coming into Alexandria. She will have a special recipe, since Alexandria is low on food now and you’ll be surprised to whom she will give them to.
- Rick will make a powerful speech and it’ll demonstrate how much he has changed.
- Someone will start smoking again. Bad habit ! (but I get it)
- Carol will share a kiss with another survivor ! It’ll be sweet and romantic. She deserves some happy time.
- Father Gabriel will show how much he has changed and he can actually be helpful. And he has a sense of humor !
- Heath will be more present this week and he will have more lines than usual. He's such a good and smart guy. With Denise, they're my two favorite new characters (Sorry Jesus).
- Some characters will make noise, to attract walkers on purpose. It could be dangerous...

"Not Tomorrow Yet" will be an amazing and breathtaking episode, there will be lot of action and also character developments. As always now, both parts will perfectly balanced, all the different stories about each characters combining with the big action. Clearly, you can’t miss the episode and the end will you leave breathless and worried for next week.
Don’t miss "Not Tomorrow Yet" this Sunday on AMC and next Monday on FOX in the UK.
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And a 612 q&a:
TSDF Official Q&A Episode 612

What is the group's plan to attack the Saviors? Who all goes?
Attack at night, secure the armoury and to give them "gregory's head" to get them inside.

How are Carol and Maggie captured?
We don't get to see it.

Do they fight the Saviors? How many are there?
Yes. Probably saw about 20+

Do we see Negan?
No

Does anyone die? If so, who and how?
Several Saviours are killed. Stabbed/Shot

Is anyone injured? If so, who/how?
Abraham - Stabbed

Does Morgan oppose the plan to go after the Saviors? If so, what is Rick's reaction?
Yes he does oppose the plan to go after the Saviors. Morgan argues his point with Rick in the Church. Rick's reaction? He argues that they should attack first rather than talking. No one else agrees with Morgan.

Does the group kill any Saviors? How many?
Around 20+ that we saw.

What leads to Carol making her "kill list"?
It's not really explained. She just started.

What are Carol and Maggie arguing about? Why are they separated from the group?
They were left behind to guard the perimeter of the saviours compound. They are arguing about Maggie staying. Carol thinks she should have stayed behind back at Alexandria

Do we see what is happening with the group that stays in Alexandria during the mission? If so, what are they doing?
No.

How does the episode end?
Ends with some women telling Rick over a Radio that they have Maggie and Carol.

BONUS
Cookie on a grave
Carol Kiss!
 
Some tidbits from 613 "Same Boat"

The opening scene is what has been shown in the promos.
Carol takes down a walker, turns to Maggie and says 'you're staying here' Carols raises her gun to Maggie and shoots a guy standing behind her. Maggie goes to finish the job as the guy only has a flesh wound. A woman tells her to stop as she points a gun to Carol's head. Two more women appear, one of them much older. Maggie and Carol are told to lower their weapons.

Cuts to morning with a pov shot through some binoculars watching Negan's base. They see Daryl take down the guy who takes off on his bike. Rick offers a trade over the walkie, the captors are not too happy with a 2 for 1 trade but Rick explains they have no choice. They cover Maggie and Carol's heads with their coats and the scene ends.

End Scene:
The episode ends with Rick asking the guy who tried to escape on the bike if Negan is or ever was at the base. The guys says 'both, I'm Negan ********'. He then tells Rick that they are going to have a fun talk. Rick raises his gun to the guys head 'I'm sorry it had to come to this' and pulls the trigger.
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Another 613 Summary:
Carol gets religion. Carol’s uncanny ability to pretend to be somebody she’s not is highlighted again as Carol convinces her captors she is panicked, scared and in need of comfort from some rosary beads. Little do her captors know that these will make a great cutting tool and as always, Carol has a plan. (All those people who agreed that Carol was the one holding the beads in the 6B key art can pat themselves on the back.)

"We are all Negan.” The iconic, comic line will be uttered by one of the female captors.

Walker Trap. Never underestimate the power of two smart women to use the dead against their enemies.

Shish-ka-Savior. You’ll never eat meat on a skewer again after you see what Carol does to one of the female captors. (Likely Alicia Witt.)

Glad these Saviors were never at Gitmo. The Savior women’s pathetic attempt at interrogation does nothing to sway Maggie.

Cigarettes will kill…people. Adding tar and nicotine to her killing repertoire, Carol mic drops her cancer stick in a most dramatic way after the captors send for reinforcements.

Rick & Co will catch up to Maggie and Carol, but – sorry Rick – the job has already been done.

Maggie & Glenn reunite, complete with Maggie’s declaration that she won’t leave him again.
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