Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[jye4ever]

Re: Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

Amazing restraint!

a-dev on a roll

 

[a-dev]

Re: Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

So they plan on having a tv DC universe and a movie DC universe competing with each other? Yea, that doesn't have bad idea written all over it.

Marvel is cross marketing between TV and movies, and it's clearly working. The shows support the films by providing further stories around the same characters, or at least the same universe, as the movies. One medium supports and builds the fanbase for the other.

Instead, DC plans to cannabilize their own properties. Fans of TV Flash will find issues with movie Flash and vice versa, many to the point that it will hurt the chances of a stand alone Flash movie having success.

Yeah I've had the same thoughts. Is this a holdover from their days of thinking the shared universe can't work?

 

[EVILFACE]

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Not sure of the TV Flash's age, but maybe they don't want a teenage Flash in the movie? The TV Green Arrow would work though....


And besides, Agents of Shield sucks.

 

[Michael Crawford]

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A shared universe is hard - lots of co-ordination, lots of planning, lots of willingness to work together...or someone willing to come down hard when someone won't follow the long term playbook. I think WB just doesn't think the advantages of one medium supporting and building on the other are worth the effort - contrary to current evidence.

 

[a-dev]

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a-dev on a roll

Nah this is me on a roll ->

a-dev
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[Michael Crawford]

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They haven't said his age, but the actor is mid-20's, and that fits pretty well with how they have him positioned on the show.

 

[karamazov80]

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DC's TV stuff has looked kind of mediocre to me from what I've seen, so I think it's better that the DC movies try to do their own thing with, potentially, actors who think they are above starring in a CW show. But of course, if the tv shows were high quality, with theatrical-level acting talent like stuff you see on HBO and, to a lesser extent, FX, then having tv/movie crossovers would be nice.

 

[GasparZizou]

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I don't mind that Supes doesn't have the curl, that motif can be a little ridiculous, at moments the guy has 3 S's on him chest, cape and curl.

I only care about the chest logo.

MoS already has 2 S, chest and belt (which was odd an unnecessary btw), so it doesn't matter if he has S curl or doesn't, maybe they can give him the curl when he messes up his hair or something.

So they plan on having a tv DC universe and a movie DC universe competing with each other? Yea, that doesn't have bad idea written all over it.

Marvel is cross marketing between TV and movies, and it's clearly working. The shows support the films by providing further stories around the same characters, or at least the same universe, as the movies. One medium supports and builds the fanbase for the other.

Instead, DC plans to cannabilize their own properties. Fans of TV Flash will find issues with movie Flash and vice versa, many to the point that it will hurt the chances of a stand alone Flash movie having success.

I don't think they'll cannibalize each other.

Besides what SHIELD offers is barebones, seriously, the minimum amount of expansion to the already rich cinematic universe, it might as well not exist and it has no impact on that canon at all, SHIELD is reacting to the universe instead of contributing to it.

Besides, it's just a bad and boring show

Not even Hudson made it cool.

DC's TV stuff has looked kind of mediocre to me from what I've seen, so I think it's better that the DC movies try to do their own thing with, potentially, actors who think they are above starring in a CW show. But of course, if the tv shows were high quality, with theatrical-level acting talent like stuff you see on HBO and, to a lesser extent, FX, then having tv/movie crossovers would be nice.

I think Arrow/Flash pilot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shield.

 

[karamazov80]

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That's not saying much.

 

[GasparZizou]

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True

But Arrow is more than decent, at least the 1st season, haven't been able start season 2.

And the pilot of Flash was pretty good.

 

[hunnipot85]

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Arrow Season 2 >>> Season 1

 

[GasparZizou]

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Good to hear.

 

[RIDDICK]

Re: Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

Arrow Season 2 >>> Season 1

To understand what's goin on in S2 you need to sit through boring soupoperish S1 and ain't nobody got time for that!

 

[batfan08]

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So they plan on having a tv DC universe and a movie DC universe competing with each other? Yea, that doesn't have bad idea written all over it.

Marvel is cross marketing between TV and movies, and it's clearly working. The shows support the films by providing further stories around the same characters, or at least the same universe, as the movies. One medium supports and builds the fanbase for the other.

Instead, DC plans to cannabilize their own properties. Fans of TV Flash will find issues with movie Flash and vice versa, many to the point that it will hurt the chances of a stand alone Flash movie having success.

I think it has great idea written all over it, and I hope DC actually does it. You give the TV creators free reign to do what they want, and the film division free reign to do what they want. One of the things that's pissed me off for years about DC is that they followed your model. If Batman was in a movie, he wasn't allowed to be on TV. It think that's ********. Frankly, if I had my way, I'd take DC's bread and butter, the multiverse, and apply it to film. Batfleck and Company can be Earth 1, Arrow and the TV bunch can be earth 2, and the cool thing is that they could literally make every incarnation before that canon, as well. How cool would it be to have Cavill Superman beating the hell out of the Anti-monitor while he was flying through some sort of dimensional ripple or something, and, as he does, you're seeing millisecond long clips of Keaton or West or Reeve or Carter?

Plus, you'd pretty much have the general audience by the short and curlies when it comes time to reboot. "This isn't a relaunch, it's merely an exploration of another dimension of the DC Cinematic Universe.

 

[batfan08]

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Also, on a different note, I was reading a comment on another site, and it was absolutely brilliant. The guy said "I think the world engine will be responsible for Kryptonite." It makes perfect sense. The entire reason for the world engine to exist was so it could terraform other planets. Point is, it could've changed some properties of the Earth in certain places, since it was, essentially, turning Earth into Krypton. If that's the direction they'll take it in, I think I'd be extremely happy.

 

[GasparZizou]

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I think it has great idea written all over it, and I hope DC actually does it. You give the TV creators free reign to do what they want, and the film division free reign to do what they want. One of the things that's pissed me off for years about DC is that they followed your model. If Batman was in a movie, he wasn't allowed to be on TV. It think that's ********. Frankly, if I had my way, I'd take DC's bread and butter, the multiverse, and apply it to film. Batfleck and Company can be Earth 1, Arrow and the TV bunch can be earth 2, and the cool thing is that they could literally make every incarnation before that canon, as well. How cool would it be to have Cavill Superman beating the hell out of the Anti-monitor while he was flying through some sort of dimensional ripple or something, and, as he does, you're seeing millisecond long clips of Keaton or West or Reeve or Carter?

Plus, you'd pretty much have the general audience by the short and curlies when it comes time to reboot. "This isn't a relaunch, it's merely an exploration of another dimension of the DC Cinematic Universe.

That's a great idea

Also, on a different note, I was reading a comment on another site, and it was absolutely brilliant. The guy said "I think the world engine will be responsible for Kryptonite." It makes perfect sense. The entire reason for the world engine to exist was so it could terraform other planets. Point is, it could've changed some properties of the Earth in certain places, since it was, essentially, turning Earth into Krypton. If that's the direction they'll take it in, I think I'd be extremely happy.

Or kryptonite could be toxic waste from the World Engine.

 

[batfan08]

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Very true. To be honest, though. It'll actually make it harder for me to judge Man of Steel, if Snyder follows through and has everything that happened in the film serve a purpose. I won't know whether to judge it as a film or as a prologue.

 

[jye4ever]

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I'm an AOS fan and I say screw mixing TV with Theatrical with both Marvel and DC.

Or better yet, go with batfan's idea, I like that.

I will survive and still enjoy the MCU if AOS was cancelled today.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

Also, on a different note, I was reading a comment on another site, and it was absolutely brilliant. The guy said "I think the world engine will be responsible for Kryptonite." It makes perfect sense. The entire reason for the world engine to exist was so it could terraform other planets. Point is, it could've changed some properties of the Earth in certain places, since it was, essentially, turning Earth into Krypton. If that's the direction they'll take it in, I think I'd be extremely happy.

This sounds like a great idea as well.

Hopefully it pans out.

 

[GasparZizou]

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Well, a lot happens to be considered a prologue.

If it makes every in MoS serve a purpose it could only increase MoS's value.

Just, as long as it's not making the Amazons Kryptonian descent