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[Chronos1919]

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I have to agree with Jedijim. I want my sixth scales figures to be in scale with the character the actor is portraying in his movie, not the actor his/herself. If they make a Jack Reacher for example, his figure would probably be 1/6 of 6 feet. I don't want a 1/6 of 5-1/2 foot Tom Cruise, who would end up looking as small as the new Amazing Spider-Man.

 

[Ramatuelle]

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It took him 20,000 years to get here.
It's in the movie novelisation. There are loads of cool details that were likely in the script but they had to cut.

That's what I thought too! But when I said that everyone told me I was wrong.

The novelization for this film was surprisingly good; usually they're all but unreadable.

 

[Chronos1919]

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It took him 20,000 years to get to Earth in Earth years. His shuttle was travelling faster than the speed of light, only taking 2-3 years in Earth years to arrive. If it took him 20,000 years to reach Earth the only thing that would have arrived would be a skeleton.

 

[snoop101]

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The context is that Lara is using remote control of the ancient scoutships sensors to determine a world that will be suitable for the baby to be sent to.
She chooses earth because it's primitive life forms are hardy, look a lot like kryptonians and, although the earth is in the middle of an ice age, in the 20,000 years it will take Kal to get there, the planet will be a lot warmer and perhaps the people will have matured as a race.
The scoutship had an experimental drive system, which mean that the baby went "out of the universe" into the phantom zone for the length of the journey, but the time it would have taken to journey to earth was experienced by the universe while the baby was on his way.
The difference between his journey and the journey of the crims on the Black Zero was that there were more than a few evil genii aboard, and knowing that the phantom drive *could* be used to traverse space, in converting the Black Zero to travel this way, they converted it into an instant crossing.
Of course, they still had to bunny-hop from system to system for thirty years, before getting the warning from the scoutship that sent them right to earth.

You're missing the point. It doesn't really matter what the novel says, it's called the "Man of Steel Novel" for a reason. Thankfully, The movie never states that it took Kal 20,000 years to get to Earth, which is absolutely ridiculous. The fact that Zod would also be 20,000 years old destroys that entire theory. Besides, doesnt Zod even state that they spent 33 years wandering the stars looking for signs of life?

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

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It took him 20,000 years to get to Earth in Earth years. His shuttle was travelling faster than the speed of light, only taking 2-3 years in Earth years to arrive. If it took him 20,000 years to reach Earth the only thing that would have arrived would be a skeleton.

 

[Username]

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It took him 20,000 years to get to Earth in Earth years. His shuttle was travelling faster than the speed of light, only taking 2-3 years in Earth years to arrive. If it took him 20,000 years to reach Earth the only thing that would have arrived would be a skeleton.

Did you read my post? He was in the phantom zone the entire time. It was instantaneous from his point of view.
20,000 years passed on the outside universe.

 

[SMC92]

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What is wrong with most of you? Why can't you just enjoy the figures without picking apart every single detail!

 

[DarkMagic]

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I have to agree with Jedijim. I want my sixth scales figures to be in scale with the character the actor is portraying in his movie, not the actor his/herself. If they make a Jack Reacher for example, his figure would probably be 1/6 of 6 feet. I don't want a 1/6 of 5-1/2 foot Tom Cruise, who would end up looking as small as the new Amazing Spider-Man.

That's what I was saying all along. Actually I thought jedijim wanted his figures to accurately reflect the actor's height in most cases (except Superman). To me, stickling over the accuracy of the actor's height is irrelevant compared to how tall he is supposed to be/appear in character on screen. I don't want a Tobey Maguire Spiderman HT figure to be shorter than an Andrew Garfield Spiderman figure, or a Keaton Batman to be shorter than a Bale Batman figure, or a Cavill Superman to appear a different height than a Reeve Superman figure, no matter how "accurate" that may be to the real height differences if the actors stood shoulder to shoulder.

In the case of Jack Reacher, the novel character is much taller than Cruise (6'4" vs 5'7"), but in the film, they used only minor tricks to boost Cruise a few inches...



In that image he's standing near Richard Jenkins (6'1") and is virtually eye-to-eye with David Oyelowo (5'10"). I wouldn't mind if a Tom Cruise-based Jack Reacher figure was boosted a little bit to match the average-guy height he has in the film, but in this case, stretching a figure of him all the way to original novel character's height of 6'4" would be exactly that---a stretch.

 

[snoop101]

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Did you read my post? He was in the phantom zone the entire time. It was instantaneous from his point of view.
20,000 years passed on the outside universe.

What?

 

[Chronos1919]

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Did you read my post? He was in the phantom zone the entire time. It was instantaneous from his point of view.
20,000 years passed on the outside universe.

He wasn't in the "phantom zone", his ship was fitted with a phantom drive. A phantom drive allows a ship to travel through black holes to quickly move across the galaxy. The phantom zone is a plane of existence located in subspace. It is only accessible via a phantom zone projector, or apparently by colliding two phantom drives together, as they did in the movie. Kal El also wasn't instantaneously transported to Earth, he was only transported to another solar system near the planet Earth. There was still some distance of space between that point and Earth.

 

[DarkMagic]

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Did you read my post? He was in the phantom zone the entire time. It was instantaneous from his point of view.
20,000 years passed on the outside universe.

That always bothered me about the Phantom Zone, ever since I was first introduced to the concept in the Reeve films. If you go into the Phantom Zone and come out many years later...but from your point of view it's instantaneous, how is that punishment at all for Zod and his cohorts?

"We're sentencing you to YEARS of hard time....which from your point of view, won't be that bad at all because it will go by in a blink."

 

[snoop101]

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Zod aged pretty well for being 20,000 years old.

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

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Zod aged pretty well for being 20,000 years old.

The grey in his goatee was a dead give away

 

[snoop101]

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The grey in his goatee was a dead give away

 

[jedijim3002]

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Yes but how tall was he after leaving the phantom zone? LOL

 

[Tourist]

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The context is that Lara is using remote control of the ancient scoutships sensors to determine a world that will be suitable for the baby to be sent to.
She chooses earth because it's primitive life forms are hardy, look a lot like kryptonians and, although the earth is in the middle of an ice age, in the 20,000 years it will take Kal to get there, the planet will be a lot warmer and perhaps the people will have matured as a race.
The scoutship had an experimental drive system, which mean that the baby went "out of the universe" into the phantom zone for the length of the journey, but the time it would have taken to journey to earth was experienced by the universe while the baby was on his way.
The difference between his journey and the journey of the crims on the Black Zero was that there were more than a few evil genii aboard, and knowing that the phantom drive *could* be used to traverse space, in converting the Black Zero to travel this way, they converted it into an instant crossing.
Of course, they still had to bunny-hop from system to system for thirty years, before getting the warning from the scoutship that sent them right to earth.

That may well be in the novelization but the NOT in the movie.
There's no ambiguity in the film, it took Kal 33 years to get to earth.

 

[snoop101]

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That may well be in the novelization but the NOT in the movie.
There's no ambiguity in the film, it took Kal 33 years to get to earth.

Correct, the Novel has obviously stated things that do not correlate with the film. Kal however arrived on Earth when he was a baby, so it maybe took a few months at the most to travel to Earth.

 

[Username]

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That may well be in the novelization but the NOT in the movie.
There's no ambiguity in the film, it took Kal 33 years to get to earth.

WHAT?!?!?!

 

[Chronos1919]

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It took Zod that long to get to Earth. Not Kal.

 

[Username]

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It took Zod that long to get to Earth. Not Kal.

It only took Zod and co a day or so to get to Earth.
They came right after they got the distress call.