She couldn't live without Facebook

[devilof76]

We can listen to more bull**** to the effect that we're all horribly damned souls who refuse to see the light, or someone can lock it up.

 

[Lejuan]

Waste time on this reposting of a 9 minute beat poem instead - reminds me of the Reverend's ilk

[ame]https://youtu.be/HhGuXCuDb1U[/ame]

 

[devilof76]

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkNp56UZax4[/ame]

 

[Lejuan]

Ginsberg omitted infant formula from his assessment of the destruction of the best minds of his generation

 

[The Ween]

Ginsberg omitted infant formula from his assessment of the destruction of the best minds of his generation

My nephew has never had one ounce of breast milk yet he is top in his class and will be attending Harvard.

 

[BadMoon]

My nephew has never had one ounce of breast milk yet he is top in his class and will be attending Harvard.

You sure? He probably has diabetes.

 

[Lejuan]

My nephew has never had one ounce of breast milk yet he is top in his class and will be attending Harvard.

Think how much more clever he would have been had his infant body been nourished by superior-in-every-way breast milk

 

[Blackthornone]

No one cares. **** off. Sanctimonious fool.

That's honesty at last . You don't care. Your view is wrong and you don't care.
You are unwilling to examine the facts and would prefer to be ignorant and defend ignorance as being correct as a form of freedom of choice, with no concern for the consequences of said ignorance.

There is nothing sanctimonious about caring about the well being of humanity and being sincere enough about it to actually find out the way to do that.
Candy coating everything people do that doesn't work and dismissing the ill effects as being ok, or acceptable doesn't make life any better.
It's called defending ignorance and enabling and endorsing the human suffering that results.

You don't care.
You don't care about the facts.
You ignore the science about how things really work to justify your beliefs and the Lassiez- faire capitalism even when it comes at the cost of human life and causes disease.

Being informed and being concerned about what works and advocating that while condemning that which causes human suffering is not sanctimonious, particularly when you have the references to prove your position.

 

[Blackthornone]

You sure? He probably has diabetes.

Not EVERYONE gets diabetes from formula, but some do. Just because all don't get diabetes doesn't mean that some don't. I make the case that just because some don't doesn't make it ok that some do as a direct result of the use of formula, that results from endorsing it.

Maybe you would bother to learn something about the issue rather than dismissing the information out of hand, because you didn't know about it, and anything that you don't know about before couldn't possibly be true.

That was a really overly simplistic response you gave that makes me question the scholarship upon which your opinions are based.

 

[Blackthornone]

My nephew has never had one ounce of breast milk yet he is top in his class and will be attending Harvard.

Maybe he is overcompensating for a lack of nurturing in his early development, leading to a type A personality.
I'm kidding. I don't really know him.

People can use their will to overcome disadvantages, but that doesn't mean that they don't have disadvantages. Let us not dismiss the truth of his accomplishments of his will overcoming the disadvantage of not being breastfed.

 

[BadMoon]

Not EVERYONE gets diabetes from formula, but some do. Just because all don't get diabetes doesn't mean that some don't. I make the case that just because some don't doesn't make it ok that some do as a direct result of the use of formula, that results from endorsing it.

Maybe you would bother to learn something about the issue rather than dismissing the information out of hand, because you didn't know about it, and anything that you don't know about before couldn't possibly be true.

That was a really overly simplistic response you gave that makes me question the scholarship upon which your opinions are based.

You don't deserve any other sort of retort in my opinion. You may get others to jump on board and play ball. Not me. How is this for simple? I believe there are a lot bat **** crazy people in this world. I believe you are one of them. Any sort of a logically intelligent response to your diatribes will fall on deaf ears. So really I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you. Other than what I have already posted before and here of course. So there you have it.

 

[Blackthornone]

You don't deserve any other sort of retort in my opinion. You may get others to jump on board and play ball. Not me. How is this for simple? I believe there are a lot bat **** crazy people in this world. I believe you are one of them. Any sort of a logically intelligent response to your diatribes will fall on deaf ears. So really I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you. Other than what I have already posted before and here of course. So there you have it.

I provided the references that prove my position. Therefore my position is the logical and intelligent one.

Those who disagree have provided nothing but opinion. Those opinions are not based on science, but on anecdotes, tradition, habits, and ignorance.

They suggest that they care but their opinions are consistent with nothing more than defending their habits and freedom of choice to have them, not actually doing what's right for health.

Just because one's view is unpopular doesn't make it crazy.


" All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

—
Arthur Schopenhauer, German philosopher (1788 – 1860)"

I have science to support my views on this.

Where is your proof that my view about this crazy?
Where is your proof that my view is even incorrect?

Of course, your view is coming from someone who endorses beer as a worthwhile beverage, even though it destroys the liver, so if you don't even understand how that is wrong, it is difficult to imagine that you could be objective as far as ANY health issue is concerned.

Your alcohol advocacy undermines your credibility as far as health issues are concerned, which this is.

You and others seem to perceive this as more of a social issue, as if somehow social issues of formula feeding are more important than health issues. They are not.
Being healthy keeps people alive so they can socialize, not the other way around. Therefore, health issues always trump the social issues.

 

[a-dev]

I know we're in 'other topics' but I can't help but chuckle at this kind of debate taking place on what is predominantly a collectibles and toy forum.

 

[The Ween]

Maybe he is overcompensating for a lack of nurturing in his early development, leading to a type A personality.
I'm kidding. I don't really know him.

People can use their will to overcome disadvantages, but that doesn't mean that they don't have disadvantages. Let us not dismiss the truth of his accomplishments of his will overcoming the disadvantage of not being breastfed.

If he would've breastfed, chances are he wouldn't have accomplished much since his mother is a lowlife piece of trash. Who knows what he would've ingested.

 

[Blackthornone]

I know we're in 'other topics' but I can't help but chuckle at this kind of debate taking place on what is predominantly a collectibles and toy forum.

Well, even though this is a toy and collectibles forum, because of the price of these, they are geared toward adults and not children.

Therefore, when people bring up adult topics like a girl committing suicide, and then a doctor egotistically brags about throwing people out of his office because they endorse breastfeeding, it can spark a discussion about that point.

Other topics even on a collectibles forum about adult topics opens the door to ADULT conversation, that involves facts and knowledge. Otherwise, people should not get involved in adult conversations.

They should leave those to the more mature minded people, who actually have something to contribute beyond, yeah, man, that sucks, or yeah, man, alright about whatever topic is mentioned.

"Totally bodacious, dude, lets grab a brew" That isn't really the sort of conversation I would expect from adults, and fortunately, I don't see much of that here.


The doctor should have instead said, look, this is how I conduct my practice. If you don't like it, find another physician who is more in line with your sensibilities. Frankly, the doctor should even have a sign on his door that says he recommends feeding formula, and to those who disagree, they can seek the services of another physician.
That should keep those kinds of prospective patients out of his office entirely.
Maybe doctors don't want that much transparency, though, because it would prevent them from being able to sell people on formula.
I wonder if physicians get free samples of formula and get taken out to dinner by company reps and get kickbacks for the formula they sell.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

All I can do is shake my head at this thread

 

[Blackthornone]

If he would've breastfed, chances are he wouldn't have accomplished much since his mother is a lowlife piece of trash. Who knows what he would've ingested.

Well that's why I said IF a mother could breastfeed. Some mothers don't produce enough milk, and some mothers don't produce healthy enough milk, because of dirty habits.
Sounds like you don't get along with your parent's other child.
I'm familiar with it.
But I digress.

 

[Blackthornone]

All I can do is shake my head at this thread

You strike me as a very pro establishment person, and anything outside the mainstream is something you shake your head about.
You also strike me as a jingoist.
Am I mistaken?

You know, up until a hundred years or so ago, formula would have been recognized as unnatural and unwholesome, poor nutrition, and would not have been endorsed by the mainstream. It would have been discouraged strongly.
Also, parents would not have let their children have unbridled access to the internet, where parents have no ability to guide their children and thereby prevent unnatural attachments to such artificial methods of socializing as facebook.
Interestingly, studies show that very young children exposed to ipads and computers, ect, will act like a drug addict going through withdrawals if it is taken away. The earlier children start, the worse the addiction generally is.

 

[Lejuan]

I know we're in 'other topics' but I can't help but chuckle at this kind of debate taking place on what is predominantly a collectibles and toy forum.

There are some great discussions to be had on this board. I can't think of a single one that has featured the Reverend though. He reminds me of that plonking drongo NCC-1701 no bloody ABCorD, who departed the board a few months back. Similar kind of MO, bumbled his way into threads with an off topic straw man argument just so he could wax lyrically and sanctimoniously to his own agenda. He was a first rate wanker. Had he stuck around I would've had two people on my ignore list instead of just the one

 

[The Ween]

Well that's why I said IF a mother could breastfeed. Some mothers don't produce enough milk, and some mothers don't produce healthy enough milk, because of dirty habits.
Sounds like you don't get along with your parent's other child.
I'm familiar with it.
But I digress.

I get along fine with my brothers, though one has passed recently.