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Re: Hot Toys Batman 1989: 1/6th scale Batmobile Collectible Vehicle - Specs & Pics

It's easy to question where the shields come from and shooting down the batwing so easily but I mean look at Joker's gun. He pulls that thing out of his pants. :lol Its like 3-4 feet long. It sounds like a shotgun when he fires it. Batman also locks in and completely misses him. Just a little comic book magic here. :lol

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Forgot about that scene. :LOL Did it really go down from a shot from a pistol?
 
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Wasn't it revealed that the original showdown scene called for two cannons to pop out from the cake? That would have been much more satisfactory, but they ran out of budget for it I believe.
 
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Forgot about that scene. :LOL Did it really go down from a shot from a pistol?

Yea I always imagined it was some crazy gun he'd created that acted like a cannon somehow. But the single shot didn't miss while Batman's 500 rounds and missiles entirely missed. :slap :lol

Wasn't it revealed that the original showdown scene called for two cannons to pop out from the cake? That would have been much more satisfactory, but they ran out of budget for it I believe.

The cannons would have been really cool. Definitely more 'realistic' but it is hilarious watching Joker pull that ridiculous gun out and the recoil nearly knocking him down. :lol
 
Re: Hot Toys Batman 1989: 1/6th scale Batmobile Collectible Vehicle - Specs & Pics

Yea I always imagined it was some crazy gun he'd created that acted like a cannon somehow. But the single shot didn't miss while Batman's 500 rounds and missiles entirely missed. :slap :lol



The cannons would have been really cool. Definitely more 'realistic' but it is hilarious watching Joker pull that ridiculous gun out and the recoil nearly knocking him down. :lol

I think his gun was still part of the scene, so you would get to have the hilarity with just a little more realism.
 
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All this talk really have me praying for a HT 1/6 Batwing!!!
 
Re: Hot Toys Batman 1989: 1/6th scale Batmobile Collectible Vehicle - Specs & Pics

I've always thought that him missing Joker was pretty self-explanatory. From the height that Batman is at, it would be a difficult but not impossible task to hit a man standing on the street from a stationary point... but flying at the speed of the Batwing, in a relative dive so that the bullets are at an angle to hit him? That is a one in a million shot. An assault plane like the Batwing seems like it is made for aerial combat or strafing runs on larger ground targets... not a shot at one lone human standing on the streets below. Shooting Joker down isn't why he choose the Batwing in this scene after all... It is to get the balloons out of there. Going after the Joker is a secondary concern, and is a task that this particular vehicle isn't really equipped for. I figure the target locks are for a larger radius than just the Joker, and Batman is hoping for a lucky shot or a way to ward Joker off and protect innocents.

As for Joker's gun taking out the Batwing- A lucky shot is a lucky shot... Same as it would have been if Batman managed to hit Joker. And if I remember right, the novelization (or it could have been an early script) alluded to the fact that Batman had only been in action for about 6 weeks at this point. The Batwing might actually be out on its maiden voyage and be nothing more than a prototype... One without all the kinks worked out just yet. He simply has no choice but to use it on this occasion, and Joker's shot reveals a glaring design flaw.

At least that is how the scene makes sense for me. :)

Sallah
 
Re: Hot Toys Batman 1989: 1/6th scale Batmobile Collectible Vehicle - Specs & Pics

All this talk really have me praying for a HT 1/6 Batwing!!!
It's certainly possible. I love the design of the 89 Batwing and since it's smaller and slimmer than the Bat I imagine it could be pulled off. Of course the wing span would be huge.
 
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I think his gun was still part of the scene, so you would get to have the hilarity with just a little more realism.

Dear God No! The scene is fine the way it is. 6 year old me didn't care how The Joker shot down the Batwing, and 30 year old me doesn't care. I do not need everything to have a real world dose of science and logic. I love Burton's Batman films because they sit to the left of our world. His Gotham is beautiful because of it's trapped in the 20's type look and feel. I went to see a movie about a billionaire with grief issues dress up like a flying rodent and beat the hell out of a clown.
 
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It's certainly possible. I love the design of the 89 Batwing and since it's smaller and slimmer than the Bat I imagine it could be pulled off. Of course the wing span would be huge.

What was the final scale of the Toynami Batwing? 1/12? I think 1/6th may be too big... :monkey2
 
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Ah it was a explosive round. They should have added that dialogue to the movie. That explains it.
 
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Dear God No! The scene is fine the way it is. 6 year old me didn't care how The Joker shot down the Batwing, and 30 year old me doesn't care. I do not need everything to have a real world dose of science and logic. I love Burton's Batman films because they sit to the left of our world. His Gotham is beautiful because of it's trapped in the 20's type look and feel. I went to see a movie about a billionaire with grief issues dress up like a flying rodent and beat the hell out of a clown.

:exactly::exactly::exactly:

Great posting. sums up my feelings on Burton's Bat quite well! :goodpost:

Sallah
 
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Ah it was a explosive round. They should have added that dialogue to the movie. That explains it.

Yea that's sort of what I imagined. It sounds like a shotgun or cannon when it goes off. I guess he was anticipating Batman arriving with one of his big 'toys' so he came prepared.
 
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No problem.

I don't know about other people, but I've always loved those little storyboards for films, especially ones that depict deleted scenes. The first two Terminator films had good ones, especially the Sarah Connor dream sequence.

Oh, and the Batwing getting shot down was actually cleared up in the script. Originally, the Joker's float contained anti-air craft (or vehicle) weapons that he had planned to use on Batman when he'd inevitably show up. He even had a line that was cut when he's up in the helicopter coaxing Batman, something like "I'm going to kill a thousand people, you ought to show up". Batman arriving and ultimately getting gunned down was part of his grand finale scheme.


I watched the commentary but it's never brought up. I always wondered why they didn't include that when they had it there on paper (and story boards). They even had boards and art work depicting Joker doing this crazy, madman jig avoiding the Batwing's fire power in the streets before unveiling his anniversary "surprise".

I just chalk it up as budget reasons (even though they clearly had that float). I guess his pistol shooting a shell was more effective than some big artillery sequence with effects for the float and his men. Also, I'm 90% positive Burton and Co. were inspired by PATTON for that scene too, which makes it work for me.




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Even with that scene I wondered how Patton could have possibly ran out into plain sight and take down a fighter plane with just a hand pistol.


Also, to be fair. I don't think the Joker actually takes down Batman. I see it as him hitting something that makes the cockpit smoke up and Batman can't see when handling the controls. I mean, we see it smoking up in the cockpit, maybe Batman just can't see where's he's going and hits the street. He had some difficulty pulling those balloons?

It has always bothered me, but it's sort of the same deal I have with the shields of the Batmobile where I'm split on it. Yeah, I question, "How does that work?" How does Batman miss him? How does that revolver take him down? That's dumb. But then on the other side of the coin, I love the idea that the Joker has some sort of "Joker luck" in that scene like in the comics where he lives though certain death situations. Even in his first appearance he "dies" but seemingly comes back. I love Nicholson's child like expression when the Batwing flies and he spins around in the frame like, "I did that?" and he's waiting for it to crash.

That and the whole build up of "c'mon on you gruesome son of a *****" and Batman looking intently behind the controls makes the scene "worth it" for me.

I honestly agree with that entire assessment. At the end of the day it's just one of those things that happens in a world that's already established to be "zany" enough for it to be plausible. Why the hell couldn't Legolas take down the Berzerker? Just one of those movie flukes. Controvery aside, there's no denying the iconic nature of that scene.

I also agree with Sallah in that the Batwing is configured to take out large structures/vehicles and disperse crowds, not pinpoint individual on a full speed dive. I like the idea that Batman knew that but took the "direct approach" on the off chance that he'd get lucky. He didn't even seem that pissed that he missed, just a quiet "ah well, it was worth a shot to try and take out that dumb bastard."
 
Re: Hot Toys Batman 1989: 1/6th scale Batmobile Collectible Vehicle - Specs & Pics

I want a 1/6 Batwing :lecture
 
Re: Hot Toys Batman 1989: 1/6th scale Batmobile Collectible Vehicle - Specs & Pics

HT Batwing- quite possible. Who would have believed a 1/6 Batmobile a few years ago???
 
Re: Hot Toys Batman 1989: 1/6th scale Batmobile Collectible Vehicle - Specs & Pics

Bbts has the batmobile for preorder....for $629
 
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