TDKR Hot Toys 1/6 Scale vehicle "THE BAT"
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it takes 2 blades for rotor
not 1 blades for rotor ...
The one in the movie just had TWO rotors. Each rotor had two blades, not four.
That blueprint image is to show how the blades mesh together.
Loads of people have misinterpreted that to mean the craft had four blades on each side.
It didn't.
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Nope. There's 4 of them brother. Go watch the movie again. Believe me, there's 4. I count it. You can even see the extra and they clearly show 4 of them.
However I do take in note what you said that they mesh in together giving the illusion that there are 4 of them, when there are only two....but I'm not to sure - I went over the movie again, I just don't see it.
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Also - what's with the arm wires HT posted on their Bat? no 1/6 no buy from me. It feels like a cop-out. Give it to us in Model form to put together and we are good to go. They did their Appleseed in model form, along with their AVP model kits so they do HAVE experience in dealing with model kits, and it worked out fine for them....
thanks for the pics above but they are not screen caps. those are production materials made before the design was 100% finalised.
I understand that there were production materials that show four, but they wouldn't mesh right at high speeds(Which is why they eventually went with just two rotors, each with two blades).
I know a guy on the vis effects team. He has shared certain materials with me on the design.
The Bat as finally depicted in the movie has two rotors. Each rotor has two blades and they mesh at a 90degree point from the other blade, synchronised perfectly(So no rotor can go faster than the other. They have to be perfectly in sync or one would destroy the other).
The only thing that changes is the angle of attack. They can pivot in relation to their position on the body.
There is one single definitive scene that proves 100% that there are only two blades per rotor, but you will need a large screen tv and the Blu Ray disc.
When Bruce comes tearing into the cave and lands on the upgraded "double pad", he gets out and walks towards Alfred. In the background, you cam see the blades cycling down, and... Ta-da! There are only two per rotor...
It's the ONLY scene in the movie with the blades shown coming to a halt and as such it's the ONLY canon reference as to the number of blades.
Go and watch the scene! I have a library vide on my PC of all the Bat scenes in extreme HD, and although the "rotors on" scenes make it look like four are spinning, the craft only has two blades per.
I swear.
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Watching it now....yeah, you might be right - I need to watch it in my big tv as opposed through my laptop, but you may be right - it does appear to be only two...
Ill pass on this,if it was 1 6 I would buy but 1 12th,no thanks.ill wait till the mattell movie masters line puts one out[hopefully] for 50 bucks and I will be good with that.
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Agreed ^ no 1/12 for me either - 1/6 ONLY. Go big or go home.
ebor
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I actually had a dream, or nightmare about this scale issue last night. I dreamed that 1:12 scale was taking over my house, with dioramas and various lines of movies (especially Batman) invading every room.
Might still get a 1:12 Bat tho' ;P
Might still get a 1:12 Bat tho' ;P
manolis
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The information i had was that the original design had the blades configured like the tail rotor of the Apache(Pic below for anyone unfamiliar with it), and they looked cool, but when the CG blades were meshing together, they couldn't get them to cycle in a way that they wouldn't hit each other. It's not a problem in the shots where the blades are moving faster than the eye could see(A CGI blade does no damage after all). But in the shot where they come to a halt, it could be seen in the Imax edition that the blades were hitting each other.
Going with rotors with only two blades was the only way to fix it.
As that shot is the only one where we see the blades stationary(Or coming to a halt at least), we have to go with that information.
dsokyra
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I'm a helicopter pilot and flight instructor and I'm pretty sure that they were going for an upside down version of the KMAX intermeshing rotor blade system...the blades don't hit eachother but rotate offset from one another much like gears look.
