Masters of the Universe Classics

[teemu]

Will ask a third and final time:

Please site any MOTU litrature where He-Man and the boys are referred to as gods?

If you do not answer this question in a straight forward manner I too will put you on ignore as you are not palying by normal rules of engagement at all.
Just because you think something, it does not make it so.

Please educate yourself and read this book.

Which doesn't make He-Man an 'Alien' because Media tells you so.That was my whole arguement from the beginning...(User's here used He-Man as an example of being 'alien' to justify the Ninja turtles being 'alien')...I am sure the Masters fans won't care when the He-man movie comes out and its called "Aliens of the Universe".Everything is being called Alien in Hollywood's eyes.Even Thor,who is a greek mythology god was being called Alien...why? he is not an alien

as stated again,since none of you understand this...MOTU borrows from Greek Mythology and none of them are considered aliens,but gods its a pretty simple concept to grasp...

If you want to threatening me to put me on ignore,go for it! I could care less.Only cowards need to hit the ignore button anyway (not saying you are Eamon)

 

[teemu]

Well the (Green) Goddess is referred to as the Goddess, and doesn't she give He-Man his powers? The power of He-Man is called the Power of the Universe, channeled through the sword, bestowed by The Goddess. I don't think that's too big a leap to say He-Man channels a god-like power.

For the record, I have no agenda here. Just think it's an interesting discussion.

Even teela is a "goddess" and Evil Lyn "goddess"

but see,everyone is buying into the whole 'alien' BS and accept it as the new rule...

 

[DPrime]

Teemu, I gotta say, this whole thing is just strange. I'm really boggled as to where you come up with this stuff.

It's just a toyline. TMNT is just entertainment. There's no "mind control" going on here.

as stated again,since none of you understand this...MOTU borrows from Greek Mythology and none of them are considered aliens,but gods its a pretty simple concept to grasp...

What the heck does that have to do with anything?

George Lucas borrowed from the Seven Samurai - that doesn't mean the Jedi are a bunch of Samurai.

It's called "inspiration", that's all. Something isn't literally what it was inspired by, that's just ridiculous.

 

[Eamon]

If you want to threatening me to put me on ignore,go for it! I could care less.Only cowards need to hit the ignore button anyway (not saying you are Eamon)

I think a coward is someone who side steps questions and doesn't enagage with the the person in a straight forward?

 

[teemu]

I think a coward is someone who side steps questions and doesn't enagage with the the person in a straight forward?

So explain to me Green "goddess" who gives He-Man his powers

goddess is the term as "female" god

Teela- warrior goddess

Evil lyn-evil warrior goddess

He-Man channels his power through Castle Grayskull through the 'spirits' of the Elders...

Not all Masters in the MOTU lore are gods themselves,as some are human,but there ARE gods in the lore,when He-man channels his power,he becomes god-like!

explain to me why DC Comics refers to their creations/heroes as "gods" .....

 

[Kuzeh]

To be fair, Eamon's question said "He-Man and the boys"...
so the girls don't apply...

 

[YoNoSe]

In the live action movie when Skeletor absorbs the power of the universe he says, "I am more than man, more than life, I am a god."

Just sayin'.

I always took MOTU as pure fantasy but when someone does bring up these topics it's interesting (to me) to look at it from another angle after 30 years. I did always wonder what "master of the universe" actually meant since they mostly just hang out on Eternia and punch each other.

 

[Eamon]

Ok you ignore mine but I answers yours? That's fair and not cowardly at all.

So explain to me Green "goddess" who gives He-Man his powers

Yeah, she gave He-Man "guarded costumes and treasures. They will add to your strenght"

goddess is the term as "female" god

Yes you are correct. Having one or two gods (Procrustus) only means that there are few gods. It doesn't mean HM and the lads are.

Teela- warrior goddess

Evil lyn-evil warrior goddess

Titles that were given when they had no clue about what these characters did. Teela, The Goddess and The Sorceress were all one character at one time.

He-Man channels his power through Castle Grayskull through the 'spirits' of the Elders...

No he does not. HM channel the power of Grayskull not, the Elders. Castle Grayskull predates the Elders. The Elders power is something different.
The Elders are also not gods. They are just very wise humans.

Not all Masters in the MOTU lore are gods themselves,as some are human,but there ARE gods in the lore,when He-man channels his power,he becomes god-like!

No he doesn't. He just becomes strong. If he were god like he would fly and have other abilities. Also HM bleeds! GODS DO NOT BLEED YOU SILLY BOY!!!

explain to me why DC Comics refers to their creations/heroes as "gods" .....

Because we worship them like gods. Superman is very god like. He is a man that falls to earth, champions good, has foster parents, speaks to his father in a metaphysical sense and he hears every human cry etc.

DC did not create Masters of the Universe. Mark Taylor and Ted Mayer did. They never wrote HM as a god. No litrature since sites HM as a god.
You are just talking baloney!

Are you seriously challanging me on who knows more about MOTU and its' origins?

 

[teemu]

In the live action movie when Skeletor absorbs the power of the universe he says, "I am more than man, more than life, I am a god."
Just sayin'.

I always took MOTU as pure fantasy but when someone does bring up these topics it's interesting (to me) to look at it from another angle after 30 years. I did always wonder what "master of the universe" actually meant since they mostly just hang out on Eternia and punch each other.

Haha thanks Yonose

again,only few want to actually listen

 

[Khev]

Haha thanks Yonose

again,only few want to actually listen

Teemu I'd think that you'd be more impressed with the mythos of MOTU. Didn't the He-Man/She-Ra Christmas Special pretty much state point blank that the Spirit of Christ influenced Skeletor to do good?

Its pretty rare to see a mainstream cartoon take a stance like that.

 

[teemu]

Ok you ignore mine but I answers yours? That's fair and not cowardly at all.

I didn't ignore you...You cleary ignored everything I said and I gave you examples of He-man being god-like and Yonose keeps bringing up good points too which you ignore


Yeah, she gave He-Man "guarded costumes and treasures. They will add to your strenght"



Yes you are correct. Having one or two gods (Procrustus) only means that there are few gods. It doesn't mean HM and the lads are.

He-Man "channels" god-like powers...so that makes him god-like

why would He-Man even be a match for Superman then?


Titles that were given when they had no clue about what these characters did. Teela, The Goddess and The Sorceress were all one character at one time.

Still represented as 'gods' in the lore



No he does not. HM channel the power of Grayskull not, the Elders. Castle Grayskull predates the Elders. The Elders power is something different.
The Elders are also not gods. They are just very wise humans.

Humans that look like spirits? hmmm



No he doesn't. He just becomes strong. If he were god like he would fly and have other abilities. Also HM bleeds! GODS DO NOT BLEED YOU SILLY BOY!!!

He-man bleeds because he is also FLESH...


Because we worship them like gods. Superman is very god like. He is a man that falls to earth, champions good, has foster parents, speaks to his father in a metaphysical sense and he hears every human cry etc.

I don't "worship" them as gods.You might,but I don't.I have ONE God thank you

DC did not create Masters of the Universe. Mark Taylor and Ted Mayer did. They never wrote HM as a god. No litrature since sites HM as a god.
You are just talking baloney!

Am I? then explain why DC Comics speaks of them as gods and even has a Comic book Cover calling them gods?

No kidding that DC did not create MOTU...but why does Toyguru say this? (quoted again for those who can't read) "MOTU characters are based on archetypes from mythology, just as comic book characters are. Of course, thematically there will be similarities. But it doesn’t mean we are ripping each other off. If anything, DC, Marvel and MOTU all rip off from mythology of ancient cultures."

Oviously Toyguru is aware of the properties stories and myths

I guarantee the creators used Greek mythology gods as examples to create their characters but nobody asks them the "real" questions

Are you seriously challanging me on who knows more about MOTU and its' origins?

No challenge at all because I could care less who know more than the other.I am just interested in why Mainstream is calling everything 'Alien' in movies and why some fans are going along with it and calling He-Man an Alien when he is clearly NOT.

 

[lerath666]

Just like Demo-Man in the storyline is an Inter-dimensional (Demon) being who possessed Keldor to become Skeletor

I guess Demo-Man was from another planet too

the Masters are considered gods (but will also imply false gods) and always have been in the MOTU mythology- Period

Playing catch-up, but Yes.

Demo-man is an Extra-dimensional Entity, and is therefore, Alien.

While He-man is an Extra-terrestrial Alien, Demo-man would be quantified as an Extra-dimensional alien.

 

[teemu]

Teemu I'd think that you'd be more impressed with the mythos of MOTU. Didn't the He-Man/She-Ra Christmas Special pretty much state point blank that the Spirit of Christ influenced Skeletor to do good?

Its pretty rare to see a mainstream cartoon take a stance like that.

Yeah,I remember that episode

the problem with that is,Christ has nothing to do with Christmas

Christmas started out as a Pagan festival,and then The Catholic church brought in "Christ" to justify celebrate the Pagan feasts..adding Christ to the mix does not make it right...even pagans and athiests celebrate Christmas,so the True Christ is not much a factor in the people's mind on that day.(Actually Nimrod was born on Dec 25th, not Jesus)

I don't want to get intoit though,because that is a whole new can of worms

 

[teemu]

Playing catch-up, but Yes.

Demo-man is an Extra-dimensional Entity, and is therefore, Alien.

While He-man is an Extra-terrestrial Alien, Demo-man would be quantified as an Extra-dimensional alien.

So in other-words you're saying that Demons ARE Aliens


Demon(man) is a spirit that merges with Keldor = skeletor

he possesss Keldor just like a demonic spirit would

 

[Eamon]

In the movie, Skeletor only thinks he's a god. If you had all that power, you would too.

He-Man still beats despite being whipped........which by the way left scars. Again, gods do not scar.

You guys aregrasping at straws here and trying to shoehorn in what you wish it to be.

 

[teemu]

In the movie, Skeletor only thinks he's a god. If you had all that power, you would too.

He-Man still beats despite being whipped........which by the way left scars. Again, gods do not scar.

You guys aregrasping at straws here and trying to shoehorn in what you wish it to be.

not really, it seems to be the other way around

 

[lerath666]

Well then he can chew on this for a while!

https://youtu.be/VVCEQ-543ak

Sounds like they did a pretty good job on you



Seen it.I own the documentary

I've always found that whole mess VERY silly.

So in other-words you're saying that Demons ARE Aliens


Demon(man) is a spirit that merges with Keldor = skeletor

he possesss Keldor just like a demonic spirit would

It's an oversimplification, but, Yes. Anything Non-terrestrial is Alien, or "Xenos" if you prefer.

super simplification time.

Let's define the term "alien"

ANYTHING NOT BORN/CREATED ON THIS PLANET IS ALIEN TO US.

So, Teemu, Was Prince Adam, The man who becomes He-man, Born on Terra Prima? On Earth?

Was Skeletor? Keldor? Evil-Lynn? Catra? Man-At_Arms?










And Emon, AWESOME book choice.

 

[Eamon]

not really, it seems to be the other way around

How is it the other way around? I am going on what is actually is out there and what has been said who what He-Man is.

You are just making stuff up, coming to your own conclusion and telling us it's fact.

Anybody can do that. Christians make a carreer out of it!

 

[lerath666]

How is it the other way around? I am going on what is actually is out there and what has been said who what He-Man is.

You are just making stuff up, coming to your own conclusion and telling us it's fact.

Anybody can do that. Christians make a carreer out of it!

Oh Lawd, you gon an dun it nao.

 

[Kuzeh]

In the live action movie when Skeletor absorbs the power of the universe he says, "I am more than man, more than life, I am a god."

But that's the movie, and it's Skeletor... and he's defeated...
He-man and the boys are NOT gods...
that's all...

I always took MOTU as pure fantasy but when someone does bring up these topics it's interesting (to me) to look at it from another angle after 30 years. I did always wonder what "master of the universe" actually meant since they mostly just hang out on Eternia and punch each other.

They actually travel to other planets and dimensions in a few episodes...

No challenge at all because I could care less who know more than the other.I am just interested in why Mainstream is calling everything 'Alien' in movies

I'm more worried about all those movies that are called "American _ _ _ _" is that an agenda too?...

and why some fans are going along with it and calling He-Man an Alien when he is clearly NOT.

Because he is NOT from Earth?...
Actually Captain Glenn IS an ALIEN to Eternians... so, Adam is the son of 2 Aliens... One Eternian and One Earthling...


This reminds me of you pushing your crap about the ISOS in TRON being Aliens...
methinks you're just trollin'