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Gina Carano for Baylan
Dude she doesn't even look like an alien. Even her head gear just seems like some ornamental thing that someone like Cleopatra would wear.Rosario is killing it as Ahsoka I absolutely lust for that woman lol
They've been so vague up to now as to what Baylans plans are, how he's going to achieve it and who or what is calling to him, unless something big happens with him in the final episode, I vote for just dropping his character and plot line completely moving forward.Obviously Ray Stevenson is a joy to have in the SW universe, and he will always be beloved as Titus Pullo of the 13th.
But I'd like characters who are clearly written out of the SW universe, to just stay out. I'm at the point now, where I expect one of the future Spiderman movies to have Tom Holland prepare to deal with Uncle Ben coming back to life.
"Uncle Ben is back!" - Peter
"They stopped protesting those little boxes of rice at the grocery store finally?" - Ned
"Will I look like a 15 years old the rest of my life? I don't want to have to compete for the same 2 roles a year with Maisie Williams anymore" - Betty
Same for me but then I always found 3PO annoying lol. I am enjoying Hayden's performance now whereas I thought he was a complete miscast in the PT. He's simply a more mature, believable actor now. In the PT he simply didn't have the ability to convincingly portray the range of emotions needed for the role. Of course having someone other than George Lucas writing his dialogue and directing him helps too, along with the ability to draw from all of Anakin's character development in TCW cartoon series.Watched the latest episode again. Man this is just a fun show. So many moments that were just a joy to watch. I even got a kick out of the one naysayer dude's antics at Hera's hearing.
Rosario gritting her teeth in exaggerated fashion while being pursued through the debris field was very reminiscent of cartoon Ahsoka's facial expressions.
The editing between all the parallel duels and battles is just fantastic.
Thrawn definitely isn't a Hans Gruber or Sherlock Holmes, he's more along the lines of the Red Skull in The First Avenger (the Blue Skull? lol) And for this series I think he fits in just fine without feeling "lame" (to me anyway.)
As an OT guy it's definitely a surprise that I feel much more nostalgic watching Hayden as Anakin than I do Anthony Daniels as 3PO.
Not only that but Thrawn's in a situation where there are constraints on his resources:Maybe its psychological, But did Ray look a bit worn in this episode? I mean he looked tired and hollow.
I went back and looked at his first appearance, and maybe its makeup, but he looked rough?
As far as his arc goes, They will have him finish it with wide shots and a bit of cgi ala Leia in ROS.
Overall this feels a bit of a filler episode to me. The biggest takeaway was Ezra and Shin....
I think people are expecting too much from Thrawn. This "master" tactician thing can only be done so far or else you cannot have the heroes win. Disney CANNOT go full Sherlock on this, the audience is not that.....ehm.....advanced enough to understand that level of material. Overall , Thrawn will have a plan with some backups, that will eventually end the same way Rebels did, his arrogance will undo hum.
Specifically his refusal to take Ezra seriously.
That's hilarious because it's literally true.What troops he has left are being held together with duct tape and witchcraft;
I don't wish to sidetrack the thread and I'm not defending the ridiculous decision to bring Palpatine back, but I think they meant for us to assume that the Palpatine cloning efforts were already underway prior to the events of ROTJ - i.e., while he was still alive. Of course based on how his return unfolded on screen in TROS it's clear that I've thought it through more than JJ and company actually did lol...Throw him down a reactor shaft?
Apparently that's the one absolute way someone will definitely live in the SW universe. ( Palpatine and Maul)
Come to think of it, the Emperor was thrown down the shaft, you could see him "blip" and detonate at some point, then not long after, the half finished Death Star blew up.
I mean Mace Windu coming back is a cakewalk compared to Palpatine, Maul and Boba Fett. All he needed is a hang glider.
( There's a book version of short stories about Jabba's Palace and the Bounty Hunters, and Dengar, in that version, finds Boba Fett, after he survives the Sarlacc, and saves him, cleans him up, fixes him up, and brings him back to health. I thought that was a far more interesting "fix" compared to what happened in BOBF)
I don't wish to sidetrack the thread and I'm not defending the ridiculous decision to bring Palpatine back, but I think they meant for us to assume that the Palpatine cloning efforts were already underway prior to the events of ROTJ - i.e., while he was still alive. Of course based on how his return unfolded on screen in TROS it's clear that I've thought it through more than JJ and company actually did lol...
Again, I wasn't defending the Palpatine decision but merely addressing the part about his surviving being thrown down the reactor shaft of a Death Star that subsequently exploded.The problem isn't with the fact that a character came back via cloning or otherwise (cloning is an established part of Star Wars lore). The problem is the fact that it was PALPATINE that came back, and thus undermines Anakin's character arc and the entire point of the original 6 movies.
Even if they did try to explain it in a movie tie in novel, and even if that explanation is sound, it should never have been Palpatine to come back in the first place.
The absolute surest way to sidetrack a thread...I don't wish to sidetrack the thread and I'm not defending the ridiculous decision to bring Palpatine back, but I think they meant for us to assume that the Palpatine cloning efforts were already underway prior to the events of ROTJ - i.e., while he was still alive. Of course based on how his return unfolded on screen in TROS it's clear that I've thought it through more than JJ and company actually did lol...
The absolute surest way to sidetrack a thread...
If I hadn't been watching the show, I'd read your post and assume that Thrawn was the underdog and being overwhelmed by his adversaries' resources. He was being opposed by THREE people, ONE starship, and ONE droid. That's it!Not only that but Thrawn's in a situation where there are constraints on his resources:
As I've mentioned before, I think that (some clunky Filoni written lines aside) Thrawn has so far been shown to have (1) a keen military mind given the constraints placed on him and (2) a laser focus on his primary objective. Expecting much more than that at this stage is unrealistic. The big question will be if Filoni can deliver the "master tactician" when he has more available assets and a larger field on which to deploy them.
- What troops he has left are being held together with duct tape and witchcraft;
- The Chimaera's capabilities have probably been compromised after all this time;
- The Ring Of Sion is his ticket home so he's not going to risk it being damaged if he can help it;
- Baylan just bailed on him.
Regarding Rebels, did his arrogance really lead to his downfall? Even if he considered Ezra to be as powerful and dangerous as Darth Vader he still wouldn't have been able to predict the Purrgil attack lol...
Ah but ajp, what you fail to realize is that Thrawn is so brilliant that he actually knows he's on a Disney+ SW series facing Filoni's pet characters that have absolute plot armor. They even went out of their way to show him playing actual 4D chess while surveying the battlefield. He realizes that any attempt to destroy the heroes during a pre-finale filler episode will result in failure so him conserving resources and biding his time until the theatrical release actually is pretty ingenious, from a certain point of view.
If I hadn't been watching the show, I'd read your post and assume that Thrawn was the underdog and being overwhelmed by his adversaries' resources. He was being opposed by THREE people, ONE starship, and ONE droid. That's it!
And those three started as one (Ezra) who was unarmed. The second one came to him in handcuffs and weapons removed. The third one, along with the lone ship and droid, was isolated in a debris field.
Meanwhile, Thrawn has a functioning star destroyer that has been retrofitted enough to (I'm guessing) survive an intergalactic hyperspace trip. There are also at least two functioning gunships from within this star destroyer (and if the next episode shows even more, then whoo boy! ) and tons of stormtroopers. Their duct tape status would only be relevant if they were being asked to take on equal numbers of opposition.
He then gets the Ring of Sion and its perimeter defense capabilities. And within that ring is a squad of fighter ships.
And speaking of the number three, he has had three magic-powered witches on his side who say that his every wish is their command.
He then gets Morgan Elsbeth (even dueled Ahsoka fairly well in Mando) and two lightsaber-wielding Force users.
All of these resources were available to him when his only opposition was an unarmed Ezra and a handcuffed Sabine.
Remind me again how he's being a competent military leader? And I'm not talking "genius" at this point, I'm lowering the bar to merely *competent.* Filoni even went out of his way to make the crab people pacifists, meagerly firing back with a slingshot. I'm not entirely convinced that he isn't trolling on some level and making this into a Thrawn parody by way of subtext.
Buff, I always enjoy reading your take on things, but when it comes to making Thrawn seem resourceful rather than actually having a humongous advantage of resources... come on, man. Seriously?
I actually read that story for the first time just this summer. It was hilarious.( There's a book version of short stories about Jabba's Palace and the Bounty Hunters, and Dengar, in that version, finds Boba Fett, after he survives the Sarlacc, and saves him, cleans him up, fixes him up, and brings him back to health. I thought that was a far more interesting "fix" compared to what happened in BOBF)
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