Dusty
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ANNIE HALL
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Because Annie Hall is so much more of an enduring classic that spans generations...
2008 Box Office
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Because Annie Hall is so much more of an enduring classic that spans generations...
Oscars prove even less than Heisman Trophies.
Dusty
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Agreed. In fact, I'd argue that box office even proves more than Oscars. At least if you have a really high box office that means you hit home with millions of people, rather than just a handful of film snobs
Man, I love this stuff!
Agreed. In fact, I'd argue that box office even proves more than Oscars. At least if you have a really high box office that means you hit home with millions of people, rather than just a handful of film snobs
Man, I love this stuff!
Oscars certainly mean something, although its meaning is nothing important. I however take pride in the fact that I don't find enjoyment in the majority of the crap that hits theaters these days. I'd actually consider taking out a student loan to go back to school again if I watched a movie like The Mummy 3 and enjoyed it.
Actually it's already made $51.3 million globally, which is a decent return even if its theatrical run ended today. Studios don't expect blockbuster numbers without blockbuster budgets anyway.
Its marketing budget was virtually nil by Hollywood standards.
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When Gump beat out Shawshank for best picture, I decided then and there that the Oscars are a sham.
Dusty
just me
Wow, but you like the new Apatow stuff?
Like you said earlier, different strokes - because I feel the same way about some of those The thing about films like The Mummy 3 and Transformers is that they're not trying to be something that they aren't. They're not trying to be Oscar winners - they're trying to be crowd-pleasers. And if they succeed at that, well, more power to them. Everyone needs to escape from life now and then in a dark theater with huge effects and sound. If all movies were like There Will Be Blood, or No Country for Old Men (which I like a lot, for the record), well, that would be pretty depressing.
It almost comes down to 'rental VS big screen' for me. Movies like The Mummy and Transformers and Iron Man = big screen or not really worth it. Movies like The Orphanage (awesome flick!) and Juno (another awesome one) and traditional Oscar fodder = rental because you don't need crazy speakers and a big screen to enjoy them. There is a place for both.
Therefore, nothing is really proved by box office with regards to a film's 'classic' status, just as nothing is really proved by Oscars. The only real measure of 'classicness', that I can see, is whether a whole new generation will know and be able to discuss the plotline 30+ years from now.
What's interesting about TDK - and it'll be cool to see if it works - is that it's trying to be something above and beyond itself. Traditionally, superheroes aren't Oscar winners. If it bridges that gap, it will be a bold statement. If it doesn't - oh well, at least the crowds of 2008 loved it!
Just a question... did you like Indy 4? Because it's basically one of The Mummy films with the Indy name attached...
Wow, but you like the new Apatow stuff? Like you said earlier, different strokes - because I feel the same way about some of those
Some of his recent stuff.
The thing about films like The Mummy 3 and Transformers is that they're not trying to be something that they aren't. They're not trying to be Oscar winners - they're trying to be crowd-pleasers. And if they succeed at that, well, more power to them. Everyone needs to escape from life now and then in a dark theater with huge effects and sound. If all movies were like There Will Be Blood, or No Country for Old Men (which I like a lot, for the record), well, that would be pretty depressing.
I guess what's crowd pleasing to you and I will remain at opposite ends. I get far more enjoyment out of a movie I don't have to induce a comma before I go in to see it.
It almost comes down to 'rental VS big screen' for me. Movies like The Mummy and Transformers and Iron Man = big screen or not really worth it. Movies like The Orphanage (awesome flick!) and Juno (another awesome one) and traditional Oscar fodder = rental because you don't need crazy speakers and a big screen to enjoy them. There is a place for both.
I'm spoiled with my own home theater, which unfortunately means I don't make into theaters to often. It's all the same for me.
What's interesting about TDK - and it'll be cool to see if it works - is that it's trying to be something above and beyond itself. Traditionally, superheroes aren't Oscar winners. If it bridges that gap, it will be a bold statement. If it doesn't - oh well, at least the crowds loved it!
"I find your lack of faith disturbing"
Just a question... did you like Indy 4? Because it's basically one of The Mummy films with the Indy name attached...
Didn't go see it. Waiting for the Bluray. Although comparing a movie with Brenden Fraiser at the lead, who's arguably the worst actor of all time against Harrison Ford makes me a sad panda.
Like you said earlier, different strokes - because I feel the same way about some of those Some of his recent stuff.
The thing about films like The Mummy 3 and Transformers is that they're not trying to be something that they aren't. They're not trying to be Oscar winners - they're trying to be crowd-pleasers. And if they succeed at that, well, more power to them. Everyone needs to escape from life now and then in a dark theater with huge effects and sound. If all movies were like There Will Be Blood, or No Country for Old Men (which I like a lot, for the record), well, that would be pretty depressing.
I guess what's crowd pleasing to you and I will remain at opposite ends. I get far more enjoyment out of a movie I don't have to induce a comma before I go in to see it.
It almost comes down to 'rental VS big screen' for me. Movies like The Mummy and Transformers and Iron Man = big screen or not really worth it. Movies like The Orphanage (awesome flick!) and Juno (another awesome one) and traditional Oscar fodder = rental because you don't need crazy speakers and a big screen to enjoy them. There is a place for both.
I'm spoiled with my own home theater, which unfortunately means I don't make into theaters to often. It's all the same for me.
What's interesting about TDK - and it'll be cool to see if it works - is that it's trying to be something above and beyond itself. Traditionally, superheroes aren't Oscar winners. If it bridges that gap, it will be a bold statement. If it doesn't - oh well, at least the crowds loved it!
"I find your lack of faith disturbing"
Just a question... did you like Indy 4? Because it's basically one of The Mummy films with the Indy name attached...
Didn't go see it. Waiting for the Bluray. Although comparing a movie with Brenden Fraiser at the lead, who's arguably the worst actor of all time against Harrison Ford makes me a sad panda.
Dusty
just me
Didn't go see it. Waiting for the Bluray. Although comparing a movie with Brenden Fraiser at the lead, who's arguably the worst actor of all time against Harrison Ford makes me a sad panda.
Aw, come-on now, Brendan Fraser is awesome in Airheads
And don't forget George of the Jungle and Encino Man It's just when he opens his mouth to form actual sentences that he gets in trouble I'm more comparing the plot than anything else. Although the acting is pretty stilted in Indy 4.
Worst actor in my book goes to Ben Affleck.
And no, I have no faith in the Oscars - either the nominating or the actual winners. Although they won back a tiny bit of my faith after ROTK won, and Depp was nominated for playing Captain Jack.
(can you tell that I'm procrastinating from actually working today
)
tomandshell
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(can you tell that I'm procrastinating from actually working today
Speaking of which, my boss and I skipped work this afternoon so I could take him to see The Dark Knight for the first time.
Aw, come-on now, Brendan Fraser is awesome in Airheads
I'm more comparing the plot than anything else. Although the acting is pretty stilted in Indy 4.
Worst actor in my book goes to Ben Affleck.
(can you tell that I'm procrastinating from actually working today
It's been fun though. You're a nice change of pace from the typical sausages in here.
I actually like a lot of the stuff I'm poking fun of, I just don't prefer it. It's just more fun to stoke the fire.
Can I email you my resume.
tomandshell
Blue Flame of the West/Mod
Do you really want to work for someone who waits almost a month to see The Dark Knight?
Dusty
just me
It's been fun though. You're a nice change of pace from the typical sausages in here.
I actually like a lot of the stuff I'm poking fun of, I just don't prefer it. It's just more fun to stoke the fire.
It's fun, like I said I love this stuff... probably TOO much
But now, I really do have to go back to work... don't rub it in Tom!
tomandshell
Blue Flame of the West/Mod
It's fun, like I said I love this stuff... probably TOO much
But now, I really do have to go back to work... don't rub it in Tom!
Aww, come on, Dusty, don't leave yet--hang out here long enough, and you'll be convinced that X-Files 2 was a hit!!!
Do you really want to work for someone who waits almost a month to see The Dark Knight?
Touche. Tell him I quit.
tomandshell
Blue Flame of the West/Mod
I have been instructed to offer you a generous severance package.
Wofford29's nugget of the day. I've never seen one episode of X-files.
