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Tyranus7
09-20-2011, 07:01 PM
Hi there, a few days ago I bought one of those great HS of Christian Bale, this is the one I am talking about:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_30vnu72GLcs/TUyanM7jtLI/AAAAAAAACE8/rG7aTRNhsjE/IMG_4593.jpg

the head is not in my power yet, but it will be in a couple of weeks. Ok, so I was reading in this thread how to paint the face:

http://blog.castlebrimstone.com/?p=499

And in this other, how to paint the eyes:

http://blog.castlebrimstone.com/?p=5

Ok. At this point I have some issues trying to get the recomended materials. First, I can't find anywhere those:

- Tamiya Flat White
- Tamiya Buff
- Tamiya Clear Red
- Tamiya Flat Base

I can find those Tamiya color, but only for sale on eBay from Hong Kong, but I don't wat to buy from there because it takes too long to arrive to my country (Chile). And of course I can't find them here in Chile neither. I go to stores and try to ask for something like "acrylic paint on water", but they don't know what I am talking about. Maybe I am not translating this well. So questions:

1) What is the "generic" or "no-brand" name for Tamiya Colors??
2) What other brands can I buy instead of Tamiya. And what are the color equivalence.. ie buff= yellow something?? (in the other brand)..

Other question which is on my mind is the one about what the autor of the tutorial uses something called "Future Floor Polish".. acording to the website of of SC Johnson this product was renamed to "Pledge".. and it says it is wax for the floor :confused: Just to be clear.. "future floor polish" is that thing we use to clean and shine the floor??? In that case this is the one equivalent here in Chile???:

http://www.easy.cl/EASYFO_IMGS/img/productos/grande/838631.jpg

It says it has no color and it is SC Johnson's family.


Another thing is, how do I paint the hair?? using acrylic paint?? Or what kind of paint?

And finally, what colors (name of colors) do you think Elvis1976 utilized to obtain this :monkey4:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/edidu/IMG_3396.jpg

Thanks.

Tyranus7
09-20-2011, 09:46 PM
Ok, found this website where you can convert colors from one brand to another:

http://www.paint4models.com/paintchart/paintconversionchart20100101c.html#

So far:

- Tamiya Flat White (XF2)= Vallejo Model Air White 71.001
- Tamiya Buff (XF57)=Vallejo Model Air Hemp 71.023
- Tamiya Clear Red (X27)= Vallejo Transparent Red
- Tamiya Flate Base (base acrÃ*lica) (X21)= Vallejo Matte Medium

For some reason Vallejo is easier to find.

EVILFACE
09-20-2011, 09:59 PM
Best tip is to pack it up and mail it to Elvis.

Tyranus7
09-20-2011, 10:12 PM
Best tip is to pack it up and mail it to Elvis.

Yeah I will try that :D

SonsofKarios
09-28-2011, 07:24 AM
For some reason Vallejo is easier to find.

They are very nice paints to use, and coming in dropper bottles also makes them easier to handle.

Also make note, a few of those colours are from the Model Air range, designed to be used with an airbrush, so have been pre-thinned in advance, so will most likely work differently if you intend on using a brush. With the Hair I would suggest using acrylics, and build up layers of watered down paint, gradually adding less water to the dilution , that way your not obscuring that fine detail with thick paint, but still able to build up a strong colour.

Would love to see the head once your finished :D

thanks,
Sam

Tyranus7
09-28-2011, 11:03 AM
They are very nice paints to use, and coming in dropper bottles also makes them easier to handle.

Also make note, a few of those colours are from the Model Air range, designed to be used with an airbrush, so have been pre-thinned in advance, so will most likely work differently if you intend on using a brush. With the Hair I would suggest using acrylics, and build up layers of watered down paint, gradually adding less water to the dilution , that way your not obscuring that fine detail with thick paint, but still able to build up a strong colour.

Would love to see the head once your finished :D

thanks,
Sam

Thanks for the answer. Finally I bought two heads from dragon (just for test) I'll going to take the factory paint off.. and re-paint them. I will use two different techniques:

1) Using only a brush, with thin layers of paint, the paint are going to be water+acrylic paint, a lot of water..

For the eyes I will use the technique used in the website I gave in the first post. ( the site is down by the way!! :slap)

2) Using an airbrush and the pastel colors. The airbrush was made by myself :D ... not the airbrush but the air compressor.

Here is a picture... (really home made :D, but it works great)..

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/4984/dsc00156ib.jpg

It was really cheap, mmm lets see: $8 for the power supply, $10 for the air compressor $0 for the plastic bottle :D ... I think I am going to make a control system for the air compressor anyway.. to make it automatic.. but I am note sure I need a cheap pressure sensor.


The bad thing is I do not bought water soluted acrylic pain. Just regular acrylic, but I think you can mix water+paint and use it in the airbrush it should work.

So how you make the hair to shine?? I mean the paint+water is opaque right?

SonsofKarios
09-28-2011, 06:07 PM
That's a very interesting compressor and tank you have there :P Nice job

That floor polish mentioned would have been the product used to give the hair that shine. You could try something like that, or use a Satin varnish.

Thanks,
Sam

dragonsleeper
10-01-2011, 09:27 PM
Dude awesome thread

Tyranus7
10-01-2011, 10:17 PM
Yeah I think this thread should be now some place to share techniques about painting head sculpt. And maybe to share interesting links, like this one:

http://www.onesixthwarriors.com/forum/sixth-scale-action-figure-news-reviews-discussion/82967-tutorial-repainting-head-sculpt.html

Is a nice tutorial for painting using dust of soft pastel (no need of airbrush).

Tyranus7
10-07-2011, 09:44 PM
I just got this two HS:

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/3982/sculptheads.jpg

I took the paint off.. And I am re painting them now :D

Cheungkinmen
10-08-2011, 12:30 PM
Yeah I think this thread should be now some place to share techniques about painting head sculpt. And maybe to share interesting links, like this one:

http://www.onesixthwarriors.com/forum/sixth-scale-action-figure-news-reviews-discussion/82967-tutorial-repainting-head-sculpt.html

Is a nice tutorial for painting using dust of soft pastel (no need of airbrush).

That tutorial was my bible, it got me started.

Oleg03
10-09-2011, 02:00 PM
I made several attempts following the brimstone tutorial. The end result was not what I wanted, they turned out to have odd flesh color some looking far too orange. I just send them out to those that can paint, maybe one day I will make a few more attempts.

Tyranus7
10-09-2011, 03:03 PM
Well Here is my very first paint job, with a head sculpt from dragon. It was like $3 for every head. Please tell me what you think, and what do I need to do better:

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/7441/21576931.jpg
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/1821/41019598.jpg
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/7548/38906430.jpg
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/4370/37302648.jpg
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/8712/17535005.jpg
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/8013/82711747.jpg
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7287/95493867.jpg

Here how the head looked with the factory paint:

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/4787/10034421.jpg

:dunno

Cheungkinmen
10-09-2011, 03:16 PM
I think it looks good for your first paint job. I suggest using a finer tipped brush to paint the details of the eye lashes, they are looking thick. You can also use that to paint the eyebrows.

Keep it up!

intothevoid
10-09-2011, 03:19 PM
For a first attempt, that is a great job dude :)
Of course there are plenty of areas for improvement which I'm sure you will address with practice

- skin looks a little too shiny/glossy
- area around eyes looks messy, need to be more careful and maybe use less paint
- eyebrows need more tones and detail
- eyes need work, need to be neater

Just my initial reaction, hope it helps! Please wait till you get a few more heads of practice at least before trying to paint the bale ;)

Tyranus7
10-09-2011, 03:43 PM
I think it looks good for your first paint job. I suggest using a finer tipped brush to paint the details of the eye lashes, they are looking thick. You can also use that to paint the eyebrows.

Keep it up!

I am using a tipped brush number 00.. I am not sure if it is there any finer than that???:dunno .. next time to improve the eyes area I think I will use only washes.. and for the eyebrows I will use dust of soft pastel and mix colors.. they look totally out of place.. like to shiny and too dark and the hair too... I'll try to use the same technique I used for the skin.


For a first attempt, that is a great job dude :)
Of course there are plenty of areas for improvement which I'm sure you will address with practice

- skin looks a little too shiny/glossy
- area around eyes looks messy, need to be more careful and maybe use less paint
- eyebrows need more tones and detail
- eyes need work, need to be neater

Just my initial reaction, hope it helps! Please wait till you get a few more heads of practice at least before trying to paint the bale ;)

-The skin is too glossy because only the sealer. Before the sealer the skin was totally matt. I think I will make the sealer more matt. I am using a mix between matte medium and floor polish. I will add more matte medium and less floor polish, plus I will use 2 coat of sealer instaed of 4. That will reduce the glossy effect.

-Yes... next time I will be careful in the eyes area and use only washes that will give me more control.

- Yes for eyebrows I will use soft pastel dust next time.

Really guys, thanks for your opinion. I have another head sculpt ready to start the paint job. I will give it another shot tonight :)

Tyranus7
10-09-2011, 04:09 PM
What is the best brush for eye details??? the 3/0 ?? y think the 00 is too big ..

agonistes86
10-10-2011, 01:41 AM
I'm using a 6/0 for small details like the eyes, although I'm still a learner myself, so I can't really give you any advice beyond that.

Tyranus7
10-18-2011, 02:36 PM
hi guys, here is my second try, let me know what do you think??? .. for my 3rd try, I will get the 20/0 sable brush, so little details may improve a little bit, at this point I am using 5/0 for eyes:

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/5104/red01r.jpg
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1825/red02i.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2249/red03.jpg
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/2439/red04.jpg
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/1699/red05.jpg

What do you think about the skin tone, etc.

intothevoid
10-19-2011, 02:56 AM
I can certainly see improvement from the first version.

Overall i'd say maybe you are using a little too much paint, I don't know since i'm not a painter myself, maybe someone else can opine - the reason I say that is because the paint looks a bit thick

But no doubt an imrovement over the first try like I said - good luck for the third attempt!

Tyranus7
10-19-2011, 03:11 PM
I can certainly see improvement from the first version.

Overall i'd say maybe you are using a little too much paint, I don't know since i'm not a painter myself, maybe someone else can opine - the reason I say that is because the paint looks a bit thick

But no doubt an imrovement over the first try like I said - good luck for the third attempt!

Thanks intothevoid for the reply. I am using thin layers of washes in the face for base color, but the shine does that effect you said, make the paint looks too thick. Still have to apply the matt varnish, that should help a little bit with the shine.. Other than that, I pm Kuato, and he said not all HS can achieve the translucent effect. Those HS I am painting are made of cheap plastic, maybe that is why the skin does not look all good..

Tyranus7
10-20-2011, 02:13 PM
Ok, here some pictures after the matt varnish. Not a big change, only a bit more flat I guess:

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2386/red01.jpg
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/1189/red02t.jpg
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/2249/red03.jpg

intothevoid
10-21-2011, 01:55 AM
Yeah looks a bit better - and yes very true what Kuato said: depends a lot on what the cast material is.

One further comment I have is that try and reduce the black for the eye lashes, particularly the under-lashes, right now it is giving a slight eye-liner look

Tyranus7
10-25-2011, 12:08 PM
Thanks for the advices intothevoid. I just got my 20/0 brush, it looks almost the same size as the 5/0 just a little smaller, but it should be enough for the eye lashes. I will use a mix of brown and black next time to them look more natural,, and use washes for the hair so it will looks less thicker.

The guy who sold me the HS of Christian Bale says he sent me the certificate by mail, but even so... Now I am paint the HS and I can tell it has a lot of QC issues, not the best quality, I guess it is definitely a recast. Too bad... the seller offered me a refund saying he bought it with certificate, but It took 1 month to arrive to my country, so I don't want to take another month to arrive to his country, I hate waiting. I don't have anough money right now, because I just got the Exclusive Batman Beging figure.. But in the future I will try to get a genuine Adam's Bale sculpt. Anyway I'll do my best to paint the recast and see how it goes.

Tyranus7
11-08-2011, 11:04 PM
Here is how the HS was looking, before I starting to dislike it, so use the thinner and found out it was a recast. Anyway, the neck was wrong from the beginning, so I suspect it was in fact a recast. But confirmed with the result after applied the thinner. The good thing is I am getting this HS directly from Dean, so I am getting the real thing now :D .. and got my brush 20/0 so, I think the final paint job will be good.

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/1382/dsc00308mt.jpg

Tyranus7
01-18-2012, 01:57 AM
Here is the HS painted by me, thanks to everybody who helped me on this thread, I hope this thread help somebody else who want to learn on how to make a customized paint job on a 1/6 head sculpt :):

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8186/im05.jpg

EVILFACE
01-18-2012, 02:01 AM
Pretty good improvement from your first paint up.

aye_captain
03-15-2012, 02:21 AM
Hi, Tyranus7,
Your paint job on Christian Bale HS looks good! I like the skin color. I think it looks natural. Did you use pastel chalk or just paint? But I think it still need a little work on the hair lines.

I myself am not a painter. But I'd like to start painting HS soon. I hope I could put my work in this forum for feedback.

Keep up the good work!

Tyranus7
03-16-2012, 01:10 AM
It would be nice to see your work :hi5:. As for the skin technique I followed the tutorial posted on the first post, and changed some stuff to go more with my vision of Christian Bale.

First: apply 20-30 coat of washes of a mixed color (light flesh + flat flesh)

second: Used soft pastel dust, to create the shadows

third: I used some water to spread the soft pastel dust to create an uniform skin tone.

You have to repeat the second and third step as many times untill you get the skin tone you want. Just make sure you use a really soft brush to spread the pastel chalk, otherwise you will take off the acrylic paint, and then you'll need to start all over from step one.

Abouth the hair lines I couldn't find any tutorial on the web about how to paint it, so I asked to a few member here on how to paint the hair. they told me I had to apply a base coat, which is a light version of the color of hair you want. On this case I applied a light brown coat, under the dark brown coat. The thing I found out on the process is you have to use thicker washes to create a more precise hair line, but then I got tired with the hair :monkey3 ... It looks good in hand any way..