Solo: A Star Wars Story

[crows]

 

[YoNoSe]

What Solo lost in revenue it gained in fan respect.

Seriously it was pretty much the worst idea that anyone's ever had for a Star Wars movie ever (okay until George said that he intended the new trilogy to be a sequel to "Inside Out") and then somehow unbelievably pulled an awesome movie out of a hat, lol.

Hopefully the blu-ray has even more Maul and maybe a dash of Ben Quadinaros amiright.

Even as my prequel appreciation dissipates with each watch, for some reason I still love the pod race. I don’t know exactly where my tolerance threshold sits but it’s somewhere between Teemto Pagales and TLJ’s inflamed butthole sauna monster.

 

[jye4ever]

I got up this morning quickly realized that I live in a world where I accept a different actor playing Han Solo and then I went peacefully back to sleep.

 

[rushmore223]

What Solo lost in revenue it gained in fan respect.

Seriously it was pretty much the worst idea that anyone's ever had for a Star Wars movie ever (okay until George said that he intended the new trilogy to be a sequel to "Inside Out") and then somehow unbelievably pulled an awesome movie out of a hat, lol.

Hopefully the blu-ray has even more Maul and maybe a dash of Ben Quadinaros amiright.

Inside out!? Would Bing Bong have been a Jedi Master?

Thankful he can't screw up SW anymore. But still kinda want to know what horrors he had in mind.

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[jye4ever]

Well there it is from Lucas himself:

I suggest you sit down first lol:

“[The next three ‘Star Wars’ films] were going to get into a microbiotic world,” he told Cameron. “There’s this world of creatures that operate differently than we do. I call them the Whills. And the Whills are the ones who actually control the universe. They feed off the Force.”

Elsewhere in the conversation, Lucas admitted, “Everybody hated it in ‘Phantom Menace’ [when] we started talking about midi-chlorians.” In terms of his storytelling, Lucas regarded individuals as “vehicles for the Whills to travel around in…And the conduit is the midi-chlorians. The midi-chlorians are the ones that communicate with the Whills. The Whills, in a general sense, they are the Force.”

 

[ajp4mgs]

Well there it is from Lucas himself:

I suggest you sit down first lol:

“[The next three ‘Star Wars’ films] were going to get into a microbiotic world,” he told Cameron. “There’s this world of creatures that operate differently than we do. I call them the Whills. And the Whills are the ones who actually control the universe. They feed off the Force.”

Elsewhere in the conversation, Lucas admitted, “Everybody hated it in ‘Phantom Menace’ [when] we started talking about midi-chlorians.” In terms of his storytelling, Lucas regarded individuals as “vehicles for the Whills to travel around in…And the conduit is the midi-chlorians. The midi-chlorians are the ones that communicate with the Whills. The Whills, in a general sense, they are the Force.”

And these were the working titles for Lucas' would-be sequel trilogy:

Star Wars Episode 7: Where There's a Whill, There's a Way

Star Wars Episode 8: Whill Someone Please Take Star Wars Behind the Barn and Shoot It?

Star Wars Episode 9: Whill, That's a Wrap . . . **** ALL OF YOU!!!!!

 

[jye4ever]

Starring Will I Am

 

[Khev]

Space Leia and Force Projections suddenly got a whole lot cooler, lol.

Leave it to George to remind us just how much worse the Saga could always be (and would be were he still in control.)

 

[ajp4mgs]

But just imagine the movie poster taglines we missed out on too:

"Whill you ever watch Star Wars the same way again?"

"All the characters you've loved . . . Whill forever be a joke because they were just vessels"


And then the Blu-Ray documentary feature titled:

"George Lucas: The Man Who Didn't Really Have the Whill to Keep Making Good Star Wars After the OT."

 

[jye4ever]

Space Leia and Force Projections suddenly got a whole lot cooler, lol.

Leave it to George to remind us just how much worse the Saga could always be (and would be were he still in control.)

Holy crap Khev he was turning the force into insects!

 

[ajp4mgs]

It would have been poetic since insects and bad ideas have something in common: you don't really mind them until they've ruined something you care about.

 

[JAWS]

Space Leia and Force Projections suddenly got a whole lot cooler, lol.

Leave it to George to remind us just how much worse the Saga could always be (and would be were he still in control.)

I have always said the PT needed a lot of Lawrence Kasdan and ST needed a "little" George Lucas...

Too much George can be a bad bad thing.

 

[Khev]

I have always said the PT needed a lot of Lawrence Kasdan and ST needed a "little" George Lucas...

I'll drink to that.

(Though RO had neither Lucas nor Kasdan and is still an OT quality film.)

 

[Khev]

I got up this morning quickly realized that I live in a world where I accept a different actor playing Han Solo and then I went peacefully back to sleep.

The disbelief really can't be overstated on that.

 

[jye4ever]

The disbelief really can't be overstated on that.

This also can’t be overstated enough

“There’s this world of creatures that operate differently than we do. I call them the Whills. And the Whills are the ones who actually control the universe. They feed off the Force.”

Lucas regarded individuals as “vehicles for the Whills to travel around in…And the conduit is the midi-chlorians. The midi-chlorians are the ones that communicate with the Whills. The Whills, in a general sense, they are the Force.”



So the force powered whill creature travels around in a person and the midi chlorians are the conduit. That whill creature is really tiny lol

 

[Prime Clone]

I got up this morning quickly realized that I live in a world where I accept a different actor playing Han Solo and then I went peacefully back to sleep.

Once they recast the Star Trek TOS crew all bets were off. Solo might be my least favourite SW flick but I totally bought the characters (except maybe Lando's affection for L3).

But still kinda want to know what horrors he had in mind.

Me too. And remember these ideas date back to the earliest drafts of the OT, so they were always there even if we didn't know it.

Kinda makes sense, The Force is created by "all living things" but how is it transmitted? Maybe the Whills occupy space like the spores in Star Trek: Discovery?

Maybe that's what Qui-Gon meant by "the living Force"?

 

[ajp4mgs]

This also can’t be overstated enough

“There’s this world of creatures that operate differently than we do. I call them the Whills. And the Whills are the ones who actually control the universe. They feed off the Force.”

George made that pitch when he sold to Disney, and one of the execs was caught reacting:

 

[Khev]

And remember these ideas date back to the earliest drafts of the OT, so they were always there even if we didn't know it.

Not really. George Lucas from the Annotated Screenplays:

“Originally, I was trying to have the story be told by somebody else; there was somebody watching this whole story and recording it, somebody probably wiser than the mortal players in the actual events. I eventually dropped this idea, and the concept behind the Whills turned into the Force. But the Whills became part of this massive amount of notes, quotes, background information that I used for the scripts; the stories were actually taken from the ‘Journal of the Whills’.”

The "Whills" were always supposed to be these watchers/chroniclers of the Saga who literally put pen to paper and wrote "The Journal of the Whills." Supposedly the films would have been live-action adaptations of what they wrote. So the Whills were a detached third party and never meant to be little people inside the actual characters of the Saga driving them around like vehicles. FFS I can't believe I actually typed out that last sentence in a legitimate discussion about what George was literally planning on doing, lol.

 

[ajp4mgs]

Not really. George Lucas from the Annotated Screenplays:

“Originally, I was trying to have the story be told by somebody else; there was somebody watching this whole story and recording it, somebody probably wiser than the mortal players in the actual events. I eventually dropped this idea, and the concept behind the Whills turned into the Force. But the Whills became part of this massive amount of notes, quotes, background information that I used for the scripts; the stories were actually taken from the ‘Journal of the Whills’.”

The "Whills" were always supposed to be these watchers/chroniclers of the Saga who literally put pen to paper and wrote "The Journal of the Whills." Supposedly the films would have been live-action adaptations of what they wrote. So the Whills were a detached third party and never meant to be little people inside the actual characters of the Saga driving them around like vehicles. FFS I can't believe I actually typed out that last sentence in a legitimate discussion about what George was literally planning on doing, lol.

All the more reason to be grateful that none of it ever got far enough to matter. But it would have made a 9-year-old kid "oops" his way to destroying a Trade Federation space station seem like a rational concept. And a slapstick goofball creature bumbling his way through armed battle droids . . . And Artoo oil slicks . . . And having a roadside diner be a Jedi go-to for strategic intel . . . And Threepio's head fused onto a functioning battle droid (and vice versa) . . . Yeah, okay I'll stop now.

 

[Khev]

All the more reason to be grateful that none of it ever got far enough to matter. But it would have made a 9-year-old kid "oops" his way to destroying a Trade Federation space station seem like a rational concept. And a slapstick goofball creature bumbling his way through armed battle droids . . . And Artoo oil slicks . . . And having a roadside diner be a Jedi go-to for strategic intel . . . And Threepio's head fused onto a functioning battle droid (and vice versa) . . . Yeah, okay I'll stop now.

Holy crap the people wishing that George Lucas was back in charge.

And check out this tidbit from the Prologue of the Alan Dean Foster 1976 Star Wars novelization (with some story elements pulled from the script, others from George's unfilmed notes):

Looks like Rian Johnson went *way* back for some of his TLJ themes.

"When wealth and power pass beyond the admirable and attain the awesome, then appear those evil ones with greed to match." Sounds a heck of a lot like "Powerful light, powerful dark" or the inverse "Darkness rises, and light to meet it."

And "In those first dark days it seemed certain the bright flame of resistance would be extinguished before it could cast the light of new truth across a galaxy of oppressed and beaten people's." Hell Leia and Poe almost quoted that sentence verbatim several times in TLJ.