How do you rank the Terminator?

[Butters]

Watched T3 again the other night....nope, still think it sucks. And disappointing considering Jonathan Mostows comments about T1 in the extras for that film seemed to suggest he knew what was great about the original

such a POINTLESS movie it is, no?!
Last time I tried to watch it two years ago... Don't wanna feel like a vegetable any moar!

I could condense the parts I liked into about 15-20 minutes.

At least it explained a few things that weren't touched on before.

Overall...

 

[Hex]

I still love the T-X design.

This really NEEDS and deserves the 1/6 treatment!

 

[a-dev]

To be honest I probably would buy it. I know I would definitely buy any T-850.

Cameron would be my preferance for a female Terminator though. She seemed to be just a feminised version of the T-800 design (apart from her more TX-like vision) from what we ever saw of her endoskeleton.

 

[snoop101]

Watched T3 again the other night....nope, still think it sucks. And disappointing considering Jonathan Mostows comments about T1 in the extras for that film seemed to suggest he knew what was great about the original

The only thing I really liked about it was the crane chase scene.

 

[csutkakoma]

T1 and T2 are on par to me! After this there is no other Terminator movie for me. The last two are utter garbage.

 

[Butters]

To be honest I probably would buy it. I know I would definitely buy any T-850.

Cameron would be my preferance for a female Terminator though. She seemed to be just a feminised version of the T-800 design (apart from her more TX-like vision) from what we ever saw of her endoskeleton.

Lets hope they all get made then.

 

[spindrift]

I admire and like Terminator Salvation. More i see it the more I enjoy it.
T3 is filler garbage but has a great chase- the crane road chase. Arnold talks too much in it and that ruins it..LOL

 

[csutkakoma]

I admire and like Terminator Salvation. More i see it the more I enjoy it.
T3 is filler garbage but has a great chase- the crane road chase. Arnold talks too much in it and that ruins it..LOL

Just like TS. It is even worse as a movie.

 

[a-dev]

I admire and like Terminator Salvation. More i see it the more I enjoy it.
T3 is filler garbage but has a great chase- the crane road chase. Arnold talks too much in it and that ruins it..LOL

That is actually one of my big turn-offs with T3. He really does have too much dialogue and what annoys me most is stupid lines that a machine just wouldn't bother saying - "I'll drive!" to the firemen, "Excuse me!" to the TX before he wrenches her out of the crane truck with the fireaxe, and "she'll be back"...to himself....with no one else in earshot. Anyone remember the T1 T-800 coming out with stuff like this? Nope. All his lines, with possible exception of "I'll be back" were things he needed to say to get the information he wanted or to remove a distraction from his task at hand.

 

[Kiva]

In T1 he was sent by Skynet as a pure killing machine but in T3 he had been captured and reprogrammed by the resistance. He had also been programmed to lie , only answer Kathys questions and not hurt anybody. So who is to say they didnt want to at least give him a more realistic/talkative personality? There was bound to be some joker who decided to make him funnybot .

They are two different situations.

 

[a-dev]

Thats plausible, but I just didn't like it. For me it simply made him less convincing as a killing machine, and not the same type of machine as we saw in T1 and even T2 to an extent.

On the plus side though he actually didn't look all that old in T3. You could see he was a bit older than in T2 but he still looked the part. Almost 10 years later again though.....hmmm...

 

[Butters]

He was a protector and not just a killing machine in T3.

But I do agree that he did talk to much for my liking, and the dialogue wasn't the best when he did...

 

[a-dev]

What I liked about the T2 800 though (and not everyone agrees with this I know) was I still believed it was essentially the T1 T-800 with a different mission..and shorter hair right from the start.

 

[csutkakoma]

What I liked about the T2 800 though (and not everyone agrees with this I know) was I still believed it was essentially the T1 T-800 with a different mission..and shorter hair right from the start.

At the start it was the same of course only it's mission was different. John Connor made some changes in his "thinking" after the terminator found him. And we have the chip removal scene too

 

[EndoSickness]

What I liked about the T2 800 though (and not everyone agrees with this I know) was I still believed it was essentially the T1 T-800 with a different mission..and shorter hair right from the start.

Like that thought too, man.
Especially that all those time-altering stuff already started with T1 and the changes that Kyle fathered John and T-800 "fathered" skynet and his brethren and therefor all could also look a bit different.
;-)

 

[Butters]

At the start it was the same of course only it's mission was different. John Connor made some changes in his "thinking" after the terminator found him. And we have the chip removal scene too

That's a very good point.

 

[Hex]

One of the problems with T3 -- this might sound a little weird to some -- is that too much of it took place in daylight. Imagine how much better the graveyard scene would have been at night; it would have added a lot more to the Terminator atmosphere for me. The same would apply for the crane scene, the desert scenes, and all the other outdoor scenes for that matter. And I don't think Nick Stahl was the best choice to play John Connor, but that's all academic now. >_>

 

[a-dev]

One of the problems with T3 -- this might sound a little weird to some -- is that too much of it took place in daylight. Imagine how much better the graveyard scene would have been at night; it would have added a lot more to the Terminator atmosphere for me. The same would apply for the crane scene, the desert scenes, and all the other outdoor scenes for that matter. And I don't think Nick Stahl was the best choice to play John Connor, but that's all academic now. >_>

Now that you mention it yeah. All the action scenes in T1 are at night. The first truck chase in T2 is during the day and all thereafter is at night. Its probably the reverse in T3 funnily enough.

Nick Stahl wasn't right. He was as fully a grown man as he was ever going to be and he just wasn't physically convincing. On those grounds of course you'd have ruled out Edward Furlong coming back to the role. He didn't exactly turn out like Michael Biehn junior either.

 

[Butters]

One of the problems with T3 -- this might sound a little weird to some -- is that too much of it took place in daylight. Imagine how much better the graveyard scene would have been at night; it would have added a lot more to the Terminator atmosphere for me. The same would apply for the crane scene, the desert scenes, and all the other outdoor scenes for that matter. And I don't think Nick Stahl was the best choice to play John Connor, but that's all academic now. >_>

You are probably right... I might have to give this another watch and imagine what it could have been like.

 

[Reaktwon]

Hahahahaha! Trust Hex to think of something like that. The funny thing is that it would probably make a big difference to the movie. It's so obvious that it makes you wonder why they didn't think of it themselves. I agree about Stahl as well, not the best choice for John.