Statue Prime 1 Batman vs Superman- Superman Black Suit 1/2 statue

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I have to say it looks the same as the blue and red costume, I mean the same statue

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It's the same as the regular just in a blue suit. Looks good but the blue one is enough for me.

Can't beat a bit of black suit supes

Kind of lazy for P1 to not even include a new headsculpt or something. Already have all the other 1/2s from this line, but not sure I could have this too with it being nearly identical to the normal one. At least they raised the emblem.

Up. ES 150

I Passed on the original but im very tempted by this one, problem is I have to act fast with low es and convince the wife why we need it lol

darthblitzwing said:

Up. ES 150

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and $300 more expensive than the 1st one.

67L88Stingray said:

and $300 more expensive than the 1st one.

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Which isn’t too surprising. It’s been a few years since those were first solicited, and most pieces have risen a lot more than 10% in that span of time.

And I still believe it’s reasonably priced. But of course any price increase is annoying.

Phoenixblazes said:

Which isn’t too surprising. It’s been a few years since those were first solicited, and most pieces have risen a lot more than 10% in that span of time.

And I still believe it’s reasonably priced. But of course any price increase is annoying.

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Yes, it was a couple years ago, but considering all they basically changed is the color it is annoying they want an extra $300. It cost them next to nothing to engineer the piece or create new packaging, etc... like would be needed on an all new piece. I am still tempted, but I have not gotten the Knightmare Bats yet either so have to decide soon.

67L88Stingray said:

Yes, it was a couple years ago, but considering all they basically changed is the color it is annoying they want an extra $300. It cost them next to nothing to engineer the piece or create new packaging, etc... like would be needed on an all new piece. I am still tempted, but I have not gotten the Knightmare Bats yet either so have to decide soon.

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I could’ve sworn it was more than 4 years ago that it went up for preorder, as Bats was shipped in Jan/Feb 2017, but then again I think the preorder window was less than a year (now those were the days).

And I’ve seen some pics on Facebook and the Nightmare Bats looks great. Though the weathering could’ve been done a tad better.

EDIT: Just checked and both the Superman and Batman pieces were put up for preorder in February 2016. So it’s been 3 and a half years since then. So a 10% increase given the price increases since then is more than acceptable imo.

67L88Stingray said:

Yes, it was a couple years ago, but considering all they basically changed is the color it is annoying they want an extra $300. It cost them next to nothing to engineer the piece or create new packaging, etc... like would be needed on an all new piece. I am still tempted, but I have not gotten the Knightmare Bats yet either so have to decide soon.

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Well the cost of things increase by around 2% each year, so one would expect this statue to be at lest a 6% more expensive than the original. The ES is also less than half than the original, so chinese production cost should be higher. I'd 15% increase in price leaves Prime1 with the same returns by piece than the original statue

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Tyranus7 said:

Well the cost of things increase by around 2% each year, so one would expect this statue to be at lest a 6% more expensive than the original. The ES is also less than half than the original, so chinese production cost should be higher. I'd 15% increase in price leaves Prime1 with the same returns by piece than the original statue

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Of course costs rise, what I was saying is that they didn't have to spend much development money on the piece like they would with an all new statue or if they had changed the head, pose, etc... So that should have more than made up for the difference in increased materials and factory costs.

67L88Stingray said:

Of course costs rise, what I was saying is that they didn't have to spend much development money on the piece like they would with an all new statue or if they had changed the head, pose, etc... So that should have more than made up for the difference in increased materials and factory costs.

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I have to be honest. I have no idea how much a sculptor charge to Prime1, but that has to be a few of thousons dollars (Lets say $15.000). Cost of China factory has to be around 50% of final price. So for an ES of 150, you have $ 150.000 on China cost and $15.000 for the mold. I'd say the cost of mold is pretty low compared to the cost of production and internal cost of Prime1, so saving the cost of the mold has almost no impact on final price

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Tyranus7 said:

I have to be honest. I have no idea how much a sculptor charge to Prime1, but that has to be a few of thousons dollars (Lets say $15.000). Cost of China factory has to be around 50% of final price. So for an ES of 150, you have $ 150.000 on China cost and $15.000 for the mold. I'd say the cost of mold is pretty low compared to the cost of production and internal cost of Prime1, so saving the cost of the mold has almost no impact on final price

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Creating the original molds is most of the cost, the actual factory work isn't close to 50%, they own their factories so it costs them even less than other companies to actually produce the end product.

67L88Stingray said:

Creating the original molds is most of the cost, the actual factory work isn't close to 50%, they own their factories so it costs them even less than other companies to actually produce the end product.

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Since when has any of the design houses owned a Factory?

Phoenixblazes said:

Since when has any of the design houses owned a Factory?

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Since P1. Its one of the reasons the stuff turns out so well in production, I remember reading about that when they first came on the scene years ago.

67L88Stingray said:

Since P1. Its one of the reasons the stuff turns out so well in production, I remember reading about that when they first came on the scene years ago.

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Well their stuff has been having a run of problems the past year now, including a quality drop, so owning a factory if that is true hasn’t helped them recently.

Who got their PO in for this amazing man of steel statue, i dont care that they call it bvs cause of licensing its from the scene (dream sequence with him sinking into the pile of human bones) in man of steel which is much better movie anyway!!! There was no black costume in bvs and that deleted scene from justice league of it in the ship dont count he didnt wear it

https://youtu.be/x55CIMcHZdc

Skywalker(OG)Kush said:

Who got their PO in for this amazing man of steel statue, i dont care that they call it bvs cause of licensing its from the scene (dream sequence with him sinking into the pile of human bones) in man of steel which is much better movie anyway!!! There was no black costume in bvs and that deleted scene from justice league of it in the ship dont count he didnt wear it

https://youtu.be/x55CIMcHZdc

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Very true, it does look cool