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Since some other threads have been started for the anniversary of other movies (Batman Returns and Men in Black), I feel it would be remiss to not acknowledge the 30th anniversary of Predator.

Still one of my favorite films, I saw it in the theater when I was in 6th grade because I had a cool older cousin who would take me to see movies on the weekend, regardless of rating. My classmates were always jealous and always thought I was lying.

Here's a great behind the scenes article on Predator:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/h...al-history-arnold-schwarzenegger-film-1014132

Some highlights, about why (as you see, everybody has different opinions) Jean Claude Van Damme was fired from the Predator role:

Here's where things start to get weird. Everyone agrees on the general facts that 1) Jean-Claude Van Damme was originally cast as the Predator; 2) He didn't like the red suit, either, and clashed with Silver. But when it comes to why, exactly, he got fired, nearly everyone THR spoke with had a different explanation — including three separate first-person accounts of the actual moment he was fired. What follows is every account THR received of JCVD's brief stay in Puerto Vallarta.

Burch: Jean-Claude Van Damme was someone who used to constantly come into my office, jumping up in the air, showing me his moves, begging me for work. He was nobody. He didn't have any credits. So finally I said to Joel, "He'd be great as the Predator because no one moves like him." I mean he really is quite amazing. He even stored his furniture in my garage! And then (laughs) he wasn't there that long. And I heard he was complaining the whole time and they fired him. And he came back and got his stuff out of my garage. And then then next time I saw him he was getting $5 million a picture. [The "He complained too much" version.]

Baxley: Joel and I were walking down the hallway of the hotel together and Jean-Claude was walking toward us with his assistant. And Jean-Claude walked up and said, "Are you Joel Silver?" And he said yeah. And Jean said, "Well look at this!" And he jumped up in the air, I swear to God, did the splits with his legs straight out and his crotch was at eye level — and I'm 6 feet tall. He was there to play the creature, and a company called Boss had designed a creature. It had the head of an ant. And they spent an absolute fortune on this. And so they brought Jean-Claude out and they put the head on Jean-Claude, and Jean-Claude stood up and freaked out, and took off this $20,000 head and threw it on the ground and it shattered. And Joel said, "What the f— are you doing!" And he told Jean-Claude, "You'll never work in Hollywood again! Get off my set!" So that was it. [The "He broke the creature head" version.]

Davis: He was the original Predator until we realized the Predator couldn't be 5-foot-6; he actually needed to be of greater stature. [The "He was too short" version. (Worth noting that the man who replaced him in the new suit, Kevin Peter Hall, was over 7 feet tall.)]

Chaves: I remember getting a phone call in my room from Joel because Jean-Claude, him and I hit it off right away, and I thought that he would've been incredible as [the Predator] but he wanted his face to be seen. And I remember [Joel saying], "You go down there and talk to him and convince him that he's the alien and he's gotta get into the suit!" And so I went down and I spent a couple of hours trying to convince him that, you know, he'd be in this costume, "But everybody's gonna know it's you, Jean-Claude, because nobody can move like [you]!" I tried my best to convince him but it didn't work. And then I guess something happened, and he capitulated, Jean-Claude, to get into this suit and give it a try. And when they sent some of the first dailies of Jean-Claude in this original suit, the people at Fox hated it, absolutely hated it, and thought it looked like a rat — and it did! As soon as Joel was told about that news, he let him go. [The "Fox hated the original creature and JCVD was collateral damage" version.]

Duke: They were going to, I think, superimpose all of the special effects on the body in postproduction. But in order to do that, the actor had to wear a felt suit that covered his whole body, and with 90 and 100 degree temperatures, [Jean-Claude] had passed out twice from dehydration. And Joel came over and said, "Jean, I know it's hot, but we're losing time, man. If you pass out one more time, we gotta fire you." So Jean says, "I'm not doing it on purpose!" Joel says, "Man, this is production. Don't take it personally." So two weeks went by, and he's flying on these wires in trees and everything and he passes out, and Joel comes and tells him, "You're fired." [The "He passed out too many times" version.]

Hynek: I was in Joel Silver's trailer, and he had called for Jean-Claude to come see him. And he comes in the trailer and Joel starts saying, "You gotta stop kickboxing!" — because [Jean-Claude] wanted to kickbox — and he was telling him, "Look, the Predator is not a kickboxer." And Van Damme was like (Van Damme voice), "I must do that; that's how I see the Predator." And Joel said, "Well, you're fired. Get out of here." And Van Damme says, "Kiss my balls!" and walks out, and that was the end of that. [The "Creative differences" version.]
 
Whatever the reason the end result was Kevin Peter Hall's fantastic performance in the finished film.
 
I've lost count how many times I've seen this movie. I've bought Predator in every format since it came to home video lol. I'm saving up my pennies for a Legit Predator costume. Still one of my favorite creature designs ever! One day....... lol :)
 
I've lost count how many times I've seen this movie. I've bought Predator in every format since it came to home video lol. I'm saving up my pennies for a Legit Predator costume. Still one of my favorite creature designs ever! One day....... lol :)

Awesome design for a creature and the movie f00kin rocks! :rock
 
Predator is one of a handful of films I've seen well over a hundred times and never get sick of it. If I catch it on cable, no matter where it is in the film I have to finish it.
 
I put Predator on when I not in the mood to watch anything in particular. Great movie and endless rewatchability
 
In 1987, I remember expecting this to be a silly monster movie and bad B movie.... ended up loving it. A year later, another B-movie that looked silly in the trailers also won me over: Die Hard.

Joel Silver and Lawrence Gordon were Gods for a short time in the late 80's.
 
What do kids think of this film today? Does it pace well enough for them? Do they laugh at parts that aren't supposed to be funny?

I found Predator pretty scary and even disturbing when I was a child.
 


And, of course...



Not the best "Making of", especially regardin' the chreature change and design background.
 
I think the only part that is kinda meh to me is when they attack the guerrillas. It wasn't shot by McTiernan, and it shows.
 
This is THE most manliest film ever made. If you are a MAN and have never seen this, then you're a you-know-what the size of a house!

*Funnily enough, I have a gym rat friend who's never seen this and has no interest to, rest assured we're no longer friends.
 
This is THE most manliest film ever made. If you are a MAN and have never seen this, then you're a you-know-what the size of a house!

*Funnily enough, I have a gym rat friend who's never seen this and has no interest to, rest assured we're no longer friends.

I wonder how he works out when all he produces is estrogen.
 
This is THE most manliest film ever made. If you are a MAN and have never seen this, then you're a you-know-what the size of a house!

LOL! :hi5:

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