Marvel NOW! Again?

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I just purged my pulled list of all but one Marvel title. It fits nicely now with my one DC title. After this and what they did to Cap, I'm done with Marvel's gimmicks. I'll stick with Image.

**** off Marvel

I swear I don't know which way is up anymore with Marvel.

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Between the recent events with Cap and Franklin Richards "fan-fictioning" the new Marvel universe into being at the end of Secret Wars I feel so severed from characters that I have been reading for decades.

Marvel.... They've been really bad for years. They go for shock value over crafting real stories.

FLOSI said:

Marvel.... They've been really bad for years. They go for shock value over crafting real stories.

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Amen. Just give us well crafted stories without all this ridiculousness. I have been reading consistently for 35 years. I am currently reading 0 Marvel titles.

goatchumby said:

I swear I don't know which way is up anymore with Marvel.

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Between the recent events with Cap and Franklin Richards "fan-fictioning" the new Marvel universe into being at the end of Secret Wars I feel so severed from characters that I have been reading for decades.

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Could you elaborate on your spoiler? I don't follow current Marvel comics but like to hear summaries of major "storylines."

BigWhammo said:

Amen. Just give us well crafted stories without all this ridiculousness. I have been reading consistently for 35 years. I am currently reading 0 Marvel titles.

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I quit about 10 years ago.... over 300 issues of ASM continuity dead.

FLOSI said:

I quit about 10 years ago.... over 300 issues of ASM continuity dead.

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I assume you're referring to the "Brand New Day" Mephisto deal?

FLOSI said:

I quit about 10 years ago.... over 300 issues of ASM continuity dead.

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Steve Rogers Captain America #1 just tipped the scales finally for me. Writers using gimmicks to further transparent
political agendas and/or cause a marketing splash instead of crafting a story worth reading. As far as DC and Marvel, I am out.

Khev said:

Could you elaborate on your spoiler? I don't follow current Marvel comics but like to hear summaries of major "storylines."

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Oh boy, here we go...

Spoiler:

...so after Dr. Doom, Dr. Strange and Molecule Man destroy the Beyonders, the Multiverse collapses into one single universe which Dr. Doom fractures into different domains within a new Battleworld where (of course) he rules as god. Reed Richards and a host of other heroes escape the collapse of the Multiverse on a "life raft" which later settles upon Doom's Battleword.

Reed finds out that Doom has placed himself as the father figure of Susan, Franklin and Valeria which (as one might imagine) irks him even further. Reed ultimately overcomes Doom in the power-neutral company of the newly super-duper-powered Molecule Man who is acting as Doom's power battery. Reed later employs the powers and imagination of Franklin (who has all sorts of ideas for new realities) along with the Future Foundation to craft new universes from which the current (for now) Marvel universe resides.

And somewhere within there Miles Morales gives Molecule Man a hamburger that has been in his pocket for weeks

There's a lot more but that's Secret Wars in a nutshell.

Khev said:

I assume you're referring to the "Brand New Day" Mephisto deal?

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Pretty sure that was it, Khev. I was pissed when the story arcs crossed over to other Spidey titles too which meant the stories became weekly comics if you wanted to follow the whole thing.... So if I bought only ASM I would also need to buy, for example as I don't remember the title names back then, Spectacular, Web, Spider-Man, etc. just to keep up with the arc.


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BigWhammo said:

Steve Rogers Captain America #1 just tipped the scales finally for me. Writers using gimmicks to further transparent
political agendas and/or cause a marketing splash instead of crafting a story worth reading. As far as DC and Marvel, I am out.

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Yeah. I just read that... I'd rather they make Cap have a gay lover, which is what I read about yesterday. They took a symbol of America and made him a traitor. Great job Quesada.


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I knew Marvel was bereft of good new ideas a long time ago, but now, instead of aping storylines from 20-30 years ago, they're aping storylines from 2-3 years ago? It's a sad state, but in fairness, they're just responding to the reader base. It's just like movies. Easier and more profitable to create a derivative sequel or prequel or reboot/reimagining than to go with something genuinely original.

FLOSI said:

Yeah. I just read that... I'd rather they make Cap have a gay lover, which is what I read about yesterday. They took a symbol of America and made him a traitor. Great job Quesada.

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Joey Quesadilla strikes again

goatchumby said:

Oh boy, here we go...

Spoiler:

...so after Dr. Doom, Dr. Strange and Molecule Man destroy the Beyonders, the Multiverse collapses into one single universe which Dr. Doom fractures into different domains within a new Battleworld where (of course) he rules as god. Reed Richards and a host of other heroes escape the collapse of the Multiverse on a "life raft" which later settles upon Doom's Battleword.

Reed finds out that Doom has placed himself as the father figure of Susan, Franklin and Valeria which (as one might imagine) irks him even further. Reed ultimately overcomes Doom in the power-neutral company of the newly super-duper-powered Molecule Man who is acting as Doom's power battery. Reed later employs the powers and imagination of Franklin (who has all sorts of ideas for new realities) along with the Future Foundation to craft new universes from which the current (for now) Marvel universe resides.

And somewhere within there Miles Morales gives Molecule Man a hamburger that has been in his pocket for weeks

There's a lot more but that's Secret Wars in a nutshell.

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Thanks for the summary!

I also hate what has become of the Marvel Universe over the past 10 years. I pretty much stopped reading current books after the first Civil War series. I did read Thor when they brought him back at the time since he is my favorite character, but stopped buying the book after JMS left.

I eventually decided to read Jason Aaron's God of Thunder run since it was getting good reviews and I really liked it. While I hated the idea of a female Thor when it was first announced I decided to give it a shot since I liked what Aaron had done on the book up to that point. I found that I still enjoyed what he was doing with the character and I love Dauterman's artwork, though I have yet to read any of the current post-Secret Wars book. I don't know what kind of bearing, if any, the Secret Wars mini has on the current Thor series but I figured I should read that first. I'm just waiting for the final issues to show up on Marvel Unlimited.

I assume Aaron has a plan mapped out for what he wants to do with Jane and eventually intends to return Odinson to his place as the one true Thor. My only fear is that because the book has sold so well since the change that the higher ups at Marvel will want to continue with the current status quo and tell him that if he doesn't plan to keep Thor a female then they'll just put another writer on the book who will.

So for now I still buy Thor issues on ComiXology as they are released but all other current books I read are Image and a few from other publishers. Most of my Marvel reading these days is 60's-80's material via collected editions and Marvel Unlimited. I am currently rereading the Bendis/Maleev Daredevil run which I never saw through to the end when it was originally printed. I'd forgotten just how damn good that was. I will also read Brubaker's run for the first time and I'm interested in checking out Waid's run as well.

I've given up on Marvel books. Don't collect Avengers, X-MEN, Cap, Iron Man, DD, Thor, or Spidey anymore. They are all just a bunch of crap. IMO, DC books are no better.

filip629 said:

I've given up on Marvel books.

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Yeah, I'm just working on building a library of pre-2000 trades. So many great stories to choose from. It's too bad that Marvel is a pale shadow of what it used to be but it's not like we need new stories. The old ones are enough.

I still have some pulls from Marvel. I do enjoy the spin-off series like Deadpool & Spiderman. The new Spidey run reminds me of 1960s spiderman stories. I'm not a fan at all of the big, cosmic storylines. There's some enjoyable titles ongoing. But beware of the new writers. They are millennials who have no idea how to tell good stories.

You guys need to check with IDW and Image. They have some great stuff right now. Outcast, TMNT, Walking dead, Savage Dragon, etc., are all good reads from those two. Give them a shot. Talk about really good, well-thought-out storytelling.