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Had this come up on my Yahoo home page and just wanted to share it with my Dino freaks:D

Scientists have identified the true colours of a dinosaur for the first time, a feat that also explained what role feathers played in the evolution of birds.

Using electron microscopes, they identified minute, pigment-carrying cell structures in the fossilised bristles of a small dino that lived in the Early Cretaceous era, some 125 million years ago.

From this, they deduct that the mohawk-quiffed carnivore was probably russet in colour and boasted a stripey orange-and-white tail.

The breakthrough scanning technique may not be able to reveal the tint of other dinosaur species that had reptilian scales, say the British and Chinese team.

But it yields the first scientifically backed evidence of a dinosaur's colour, which eases dependence on "artist's impressions" of these enigmatic beasts.

"When I teach my students about dinosaurs, I always say we can learn about feeding, locomotion, reproduction, egg-laying and all that sort of thing," said lead palaeontologist Mike Benton of Bristol University, western England.

"The two things we don't know and never will know, are about the noises they could make and the colours they were. Well, we've now discovered evidence that can tell us for sure some aspects of colour in dinosaurs."

The study, published in the British science journal Nature, looked at spectacular fossils recovered in former lake sediments in Liaoning province, northeastern China.

Since the 1990s, this area has been a treasure trove of dinosaur remains, especially small theropods - two-footed carnivores - that are believed to have been the forerunners of birds.

The scientists looked at a specimen of Sinosauropteryx, a bristle-covered theropod about the size of a labrador dog, and an early bird called Confuciusornis.

Their quest was the imprint of melanosomes, which are tough, pigment-carrying components found in the cells of feathers and mammal hair.

With the help of electronic microscopes that scrutinised the bristles to a millionth of a metre, Benton's team found the telltale outlines of two kinds of melanosomes, one sausage-shaped, the other spherical.

Called eumelanosomes and phaeomelanosomes, they carry pigments that give black and grey, and shades of brown ranging from light beige to ginger.

Confuciusornis had patches of white, black and orange-brown colouring, the paper surmises. Areas where there were no melanosomes on the fossils were presumed to be white.

Benton described this portrayal as a "minimum palette," as feathers have other hues that are not preserved in melanosomes. The chance of determining the colour of dinosaur skin, which does not preserve melanosomes, is "slight", he added.

Palaeontologists have battled over whether theropods could have been the template for birds, of which the first acknowledged specimen, Archaeopteryx, lived around 150 million years ago.

Some argued theropod bristles were primitive feathers, which developed into full plumage, with specialised types, over millions of years. Others retorted the bristles were simply pieces of skin or other preserved tissues.

"These bristles really are feathers," said Benton. "If there were bits of skin or connective tissue or something else, they would not contain melanosomes, full stop."

Another big debating point has been this: why did dinosaurs grow feathers? Were they for flight, for keeping warm or for display, to court or scare off predators?

"We now know that feathers came before wings, so feathers did not originate as flight structures," said Benton.

"We therefore suggest that feathers first arose as agents for colour display and only later in their evolutionary history did they come useful for flight and insulation."

The eight scientists which carried out the research included Xing Xu of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, arguably the most famous fossil hunter alive today.
 
Very cool indeed! I'm still struggling with the idea that the T-Rex could have feathers though... First taking the most badass creature and turning him into a scavenger, and then giving him feathers. These damn scientists are worse than Michael Bay when it comes to raping one's childhood! LOL
 
Thanks for sharing. There has been some good science on dinos in the past decade.
 
Thanks for letting me know about this thread on my wall, xr6.

Got this news in a newletter on the 27th already. Thanks all the same, though! Here's the article link for those interested.
https://www.physorg.com/news183817420.html

A true progression forward in identifying color patterns in feathered dinosaur species. It represents a very intriguing point for smaller organisms, though not foreseeably likely in larger-bodied animals which are believed to have been primarily devoid of feathers, due to their extremely high metabolic rates and need to rapidly exfiltrate heat from their bodies. Very likely that in the coming years we may known the color of popular species like V.mongoliensis based just on these findings! To say this is exciting news is a vast, vast understatement.
 
So dinosaurs were White, black, orange and brown colored. Kind of like my cat.. ;)
 
I still want to know what that little dimple on the top of a woman's arse crack is? .....:confused:

some kind of prehistoric tail ??? :dunno
 
Very cool indeed! I'm still struggling with the idea that the T-Rex could have feathers though... First taking the most badass creature and turning him into a scavenger, and then giving him feathers. These damn scientists are worse than Michael Bay when it comes to raping one's childhood! LOL

Worry not, Reinhardt. As I said in the previous post and we have discussed a view times throughout various threads, T.rex would not have been possessed of feathers. T.rex skin impressions alone allow us to conclude that adults were not entirely covered with feathers, and also factoring in the immense size of the animal, heat dispersal becomes an issue and feathers would have insulated and trapped heat in a multi-ton endotherm, making the existence of feathers far outside the realm of possibility in T.rex. Even though proto-feathers appear to have first evolved for ornamentation, they still would have trapped heat throughout various portions of the body, which in large animals would have been dangerous. Again, it's the need to rapidly exfiltrate heat from the body during activity. This is also why hippos, rhinos, and elephants look the way they do, devoid of coats of fur; not as vibrant as a lot of their furry cousins, but it's a necessity for creatures of their size and in their environments.

T.rex young are commonly depicted with down fluff. While small, T.rex young had a much higher ratio of surface area to cumulative volume than adult organisms. They would have been capable when that small of retaining such characteristics as proto-feathers. Young Tyrannosaurs shedding down as they grow is easily applicable to both birds and reptiles today which molt their feathers and scales respectively as they mature. Unfortunately, you're not going to see a feathered T.rex strutting about, however cool I think that may have been. :D :rock
 
So dinosaurs were White, black, orange and brown colored. Kind of like my cat.. ;)

We know that at least one species, Sinosauropteryx, possessed that color pattern. Yes, much like both some wild and domesticated cats might, and I'm sure it's through very similar evolutionary pathways selectively for that cryptic and also possibly functionally ornamental coloration as well.
 
Interesting reed, i was into dinosaurs big time in my early teens , still am but not as bad, and that was something i always thought about.How do we know what colour they were, they could of been bright blue with pink spots for all we new, it was just movies that gave us the colours we see of them.It will be interesting to follow this story.
 
We can only guess based on extant organisms; birds and reptiles give perhaps the best and most likely approximations due to their close phylogenetic relatedness. For example, it wouldn't make much sense for organisms to be bright blue unless they were trying to blend with a bright blue environment, or if it were a courtship display to a conspecific. Otherwise such organisms would likely not have survived to populate the gene pool a great deal. :D
 
We can only guess based on extant organisms; birds and reptiles give perhaps the best and most likely approximations due to their close phylogenetic relatedness. For example, it wouldn't make much sense for organisms to be bright blue unless they were trying to blend with a bright blue environment, or if it were a courtship display to a conspecific. Otherwise such organisms would likely not have survived to populate the gene pool a great deal. :D

Yer, i highly doubt they were bright blue, unless they lived on avatar. Ime just saying that we dont trully know the original colours for sure.
They could of been black and white, grey, purple, but most likely they would be coloured to there suroundings like todays animals. Slightly off topic but still dinosauriremember reading a while back that one of the dinasaurs they put togetherthrough the findings of the fossils/bones , they think they have built it wrong, i cant remmeber wich one it was a popular one something like the trex, some guys at a museum realised that there was no way some of the bones could be connected theway they had them all this time, i forget were i read it and which dinosaur it was.
 
Worry not, Reinhardt. As I said in the previous post and we have discussed a view times throughout various threads, T.rex would not have been possessed of feathers. T.rex skin impressions alone allow us to conclude that adults were not entirely covered with feathers, and also factoring in the immense size of the animal, heat dispersal becomes an issue and feathers would have insulated and trapped heat in a multi-ton endotherm, making the existence of feathers far outside the realm of possibility in T.rex. Even though proto-feathers appear to have first evolved for ornamentation, they still would have trapped heat throughout various portions of the body, which in large animals would have been dangerous. Again, it's the need to rapidly exfiltrate heat from the body during activity. This is also why hippos, rhinos, and elephants look the way they do, devoid of coats of fur; not as vibrant as a lot of their furry cousins, but it's a necessity for creatures of their size and in their environments.

T.rex young are commonly depicted with down fluff. While small, T.rex young had a much higher ratio of surface area to cumulative volume than adult organisms. They would have been capable when that small of retaining such characteristics as proto-feathers. Young Tyrannosaurs shedding down as they grow is easily applicable to both birds and reptiles today which molt their feathers and scales respectively as they mature. Unfortunately, you're not going to see a feathered T.rex strutting about, however cool I think that may have been. :D :rock


Could these feathered Tyrannosaurs live in a colder, snowy landscape ?
 
Very cool post, I loved reading about dinosaurs as a kid, still do I guess!

Hopefully they find some clues as to other species' colouring as well!
 
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