Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

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crows said:

Your Hulk example is not accurate. It would be like if they made Iron Man 1 and THEN they added Hulk and Thor and Capt America and Black Widow and Black Panther etc. to the Iron Man sequel.

Now technically you could say that is what happened to Captain America but even His time in the suit was a lot longer than Superman's, he fought longer than Superman did, and again, there were all these other movies before. Marvel took its time to build these stories.

(hell, even Iron Man had the suit longer than Superman had His suit. Superman basically had one long fight and that was it.)

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Going from MOS to Justice League is exactly the same as how it went for the Hulk, Thor, and Captain America. Thor hardly ever wore his costume in his first movie as well. One origin/reboot movie then a team movie. Only IM got the benefit of a sequel prior to The Avengers. Now if you're talking about "building multiple stories" prior to the Justice League then that is another issue entirely and has nothing to do with Superman being "robbed of a sequel."

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Khev said:

Going from MOS to Justice League is exactly the same as how it went for the Hulk, Thor, and Captain America. Thor hardly ever wore his costume in his first movie as well. One origin/reboot movie then a team movie. Only IM got the benefit of a sequel prior to The Avengers. Now if you're talking about "building multiple stories" prior to the Justice League then that is another issue entirely and has nothing to do with Superman being "robbed of a sequel."

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you could make the question of how mucg training and fights did Thor had before.

same with Hulk, how long has he been the Hulk for?

in both cases it is implied that they were doing that for a while. Superman Barely knew how to usehis powers before going after Zod... Barely.
He din't even know how to fly. At least Thor was already a warrior.

not the same thing.

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Crows has assumed Nam duties during the latter's absence. I can tell by the

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crows said:

you could make the question of how mucg training and fights did Thor had before.

same with Hulk, how long has he been the Hulk for?

in both cases it is implied that they were doing that for a while. Superman Barely knew how to usehis powers before going after Zod... Barely.
He din't even know how to fly. At least Thor was already a warrior.

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Who cares? What story telling convention are you leaning on that requires that any hero get two solo movies to prove his skillz? Luke Skywalker used the Force all of one time in combat in Star Wars before fast forwarding to being more skilled in ESB. They didn't have a whole solo movie between ANH and ESB just so Luke could get up to par.

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even if they made justice league lite right after Batman begins he still had years of training...

where did Clark train? ON A FARM????

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a-dev said:

Crows has assumed Nam duties during the latter's absence. I can tell by the

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where is nam??

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crows said:

where is nam??

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that made me laugh

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crows said:

even if they made justice league lite right after Batman begins he still had years of training...

where did Clark train? ON A FARM????

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Batman is supposed to know 127 martial arts.

Superman is not a fighter nor a warrior, in fact, he's only mentioned to have trained and have those kryptonian martial arts skills until the 70's if I remember correctly, before that it was implied that his super strength and speer were enough, he still has to get used to those powers after spending a lifetime hiding them.

The fighting skills come with decades of being Superman.

In fact, Wonder Woman is a much better fighter than Supes.

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crows said:

even if they made justice league lite right after Batman begins he still had years of training...

where did Clark train? ON A FARM????

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crows said:

where is nam??

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Retired from the forum. The flamewars took their toll on his body but he'll be back with a magical finger brace which will help him PWN for awhile until he meets a worthy adversary who will put him out of commission again. Then he'll come back, rePWN in an anti-climactic argument with same foe and then retire again, entrusting his name to someone else.

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a-dev said:

Retired from the forum. The flamewars took their toll on his body but he'll be back with a magical finger brace which will help him PWN for awhile until he meets a worthy adversary who will put him out of commission again. Then he'll come back, rePWN in an anti-climactic argument with same foe and then retire again, entrusting his name to someone else.

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do i guess we will see him in 8 years then...

(who would that someone else be )

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jye4ever said:

2 years to go.

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Now I know what DC really stands for: Desperately Chasing.

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Can you imagine this rodeo for another 24 months.

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jye4ever said:

2 years to go.

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Two and a half. You know Cap will chase them away from a summer release.

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crows said:

do i guess we will see him in 8 years then...

(who would that someone else be )

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That's actually an interesting question. Who would be the most Nam-like member who isn't Nam?

VintijDroidGutzz said:

Now I know what DC really stands for: Desperately Chasing.

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Tis what the whole thing smacks of.

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Khev said:

Two and a half. You know Cap will chase them away from a summer release.

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Alan Horn Disney Pres said he is considering actually moving Cap.


"We'll see. We're struggling with it" Alan Horn on #CaptainAmerica3 debuting against #BatmanvsSuperman
8:36 AM - 22 Apr 2014

Supposedly Marvel is saying hell no to the move but Horn is playing hard ass.

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Well these are just simple cameos nothing more if you are expecting him it be in his full cyborg outfit its probably not going to happen. I would have preferred Superman get his own sequel which focus on him only, but those day are over and these movies can not really exist on their own they have to exist at part of a bigger universe with all that interconnectivity.

This movie can still have the focus on Superman by having the main villain be a classic Superman villain so as to still have that central theme. Never the less is nice to see DC bring out more of its characters to show case.

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I don't remember where I read it, one of the websites reporting on the casting news said that the events in BvS would lead to Victor's injuries and his later transformation into Cyborg for the JL.