Hot Toys Iron Man Fade Issue

[Mr.Zero]

How many peeps out there having problems with the rubber fading? I just started to unbox my IM collection and found out that my MISB BD had faded diaper :mad::gah: I also read that this is a problem with the newer IM's. How have you guys avoided or fixed this problem?

This really has me thinking of getting rid of all my IM's before they all turn pink!

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

No issues with mine, though they're displayed away from sunlight and kept cool 24/7.

[EXOTICLEX]

no fading on mine....It could be an air problem?

[The Josh]

Had this discussion the other night. No problems here at all.

[a-dev]

My original Mark III had it. I sold that and haven't bought any other Iron Mans. I'd be surprised if its not an issue with the other ones. Plus it happened to mine in Ireland, with no extremes of climate. I expect it could only be exacerbated/accelerated in hotter countries

[badrat]

None with mine either. They're not in direct sunlight and, out of the box, I put mine in one pose, then on the stand and that's how they have stayed. I don't do any excessive handling of any of my IM's.

[CTO15]

there is fading issues with the MK IV and VI?

[Zeniff]

Mine Shows No Signs Of Fading......Yet!

I Sure Hope These "Toys" Hold Up Through The Years:pray:

[Mr.Zero]

So far it's only been my BD MKIII the others are good. I have no sunlight shinning in and I have been using only led bulbs as my light source in the room. Thinking it was leaving it in the box that caused it.

Anyone know how I can go about fixing my IM? I just don't want to go out and buy another.

[Mr.Zero]

there is fading issues with the MK IV and VI?

That is correct.

[robbiethepainter]

Nope and mine have been in some pretty extreme conditions. Hot, cold, humidity, dry, and some sun. Not been in a box since day one.

[cozzie]

i recently bought a sealed battle damaged mark iii, it had fading issues and had never been opened, got it for a good price tho, is there anything we can do to remedy this fading issue ?

[Mr.Zero]

Can the rubber be painted?

[SixMillionDollarMan Guy]

Thinking it was leaving it in the box that caused it.

Wait a minute. Has "leaving them in the box been an issue? Mine are all in the box, never removed. Did I miss something? :(

[wax murderer]

My Mk.3 is fine; just wish he was a bit more stable on his feet!...PS

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

Wait a minute. Has "leaving them in the box been an issue? Mine are all in the box, never removed. Did I miss something? :(

Claustrophobia perhaps :lecture

[Mr.Zero]

Wait a minute. Has "leaving them in the box been an issue? Mine are all in the box, never removed. Did I miss something? :(

You better hope not. I just opened mine the other night and it was faded. I went ahead and opened all of them just to make sure.

I think I remember reading that it can accelerate the fading problem :dunno

[Doon]

My BD mark III has slight fading, he's on display in a room with no direct sunlight. It's only very slight.

However my Mark VI straight out of the box had noticable fading on his left hip. The paint had actually been absorbed by the plastic casing that holds him in the box (leaving a section of the case slightly pink), normally the plastic casing in a hot toys box is clear or black but with the mark vi the section that holds the figure is made from white plastic, the white seems to draw out the red. So yeah if your planning on keeping him stored I'd suggest trying to remove the white section from the case. Or wrap the figure in some sort of non absorbant material/cloth.

I heard some people talking about a Car touch up pen being used to fix the fading?

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Mark IV and VI are fine, though i keep them in a room that's dark most of the time

But when it gets hot here, IT REALLY GETS HOT HERE! hasn't affected the figure yet.

(knock on wood)

[Megacolor]

What is fading on the Mark IV? The Mark IV don't have any rubber? Any Pictures so i know what people are talking about?

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

What is fading on the Mark IV? The Mark IV don't have any rubber? Any Pictures so i know what people are talking about?

Rubber Waist, a.k.a "Stark Brand Speedos" and the back of the neck i think

[Mr.Zero]

This is not my pic (bandito posted it )and this is the MKVI fade on the diaper.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc45/CAVZ33/IMG_1569.jpg

[SixMillionDollarMan Guy]

You better hope not. I just opened mine the other night and it was faded. I went ahead and opened all of them just to make sure.

I think I remember reading that it can accelerate the fading problem :dunno

My BD mark III has slight fading, he's on display in a room with no direct sunlight. It's only very slight.

However my Mark VI straight out of the box had noticable fading on his left hip. The paint had actually been absorbed by the plastic casing that holds him in the box (leaving a section of the case slightly pink), normally the plastic casing in a hot toys box is clear or black but with the mark vi the section that holds the figure is made from white plastic, the white seems to draw out the red. So yeah if your planning on keeping him stored I'd suggest trying to remove the white section from the case. Or wrap the figure in some sort of non absorbant material/cloth.

I heard some people talking about a Car touch up pen being used to fix the fading?

Damn! Gonna have to check everything out now. :(

Hate when this type of crap happens. :mad:

[Megacolor]

This is not my pic (bandito posted it )and this is the MKVI fade on the diaper.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc45/CAVZ33/IMG_1569.jpg

WoW thats sucks!! No fading on mine!!! thanks for the pic!!

[VertigoM]

No fading with mine...

[EVILFACE]

Not Iron Man but the hands on my First Blood Rambo faded.

[Lejuan]

No fading with mine, but even if there was I wouldn't sell it. If the undies on my mkIV fade over time I really could not give a toss to be honest.

I'll be picking up a Dragon astronaut when it's released. White costume, it'll turn yellow for sure over time. But so did the real astronaut suits. Sunlight ages stuff, so does temperature and humidity. Rubber is especially unstable when it comes to holding its pigments. It's just how stuff works. Get over it, you'll be so much happier.

[Remy]

I have 2 mark 4s not including the secret project. No fading. I use LED lights.

Even if it faded like that pic, it wouldn't bother me. That's not bad compared to the faded abs mark 3 that I used to have.

[Master Wayne]

I had the original Mark III, and it was fading pretty badly. I sold and replaced it with the Battle Damaged Mark III. No fading I've noticed on that one so far.

[COSMOSTARX]

No fading on my Mk 4

[clear red]

... alright we all know the problem and like most including myself would like to know if anyone has been successful in "re-painting/ rectifying" the affected area, as i have plenty of gundam modeling experience to me the re-painting is pretty simple even for anyone (experienced or not), the more important question is how to dismantle the affected part/s without really damaging a +$200 HT fig.... :)

any tips, vid would be a total cure for this ... thanks in advance

[Lejuan]

... alright we all know the problem and like most including myself would like to know if anyone has been successful in "re-painting/ rectifying" the affected area, as i have plenty of gundam modeling experience to me the re-painting is pretty simple even for anyone (experienced or not), the more important question is how to dismantle the affected part/s without really damaging a +$200 HT fig.... :)

any tips, vid would be a total cure for this ... thanks in advance

er, pop the legs off and slip the undies off would seem a solid strategy :)

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

er, pop the legs off and slip the undies off would seem a solid strategy :)

:lecture:lecture:lecture

[BB&WSF]

My IV's fading too, never displayed. Can't see IM in pink panties :horror Haven't tried anything yet. Guess slipping the speedos off and posing him in 'picking the coin' position would be the best thing to do, at least till we find a permanent cure..

[Cocoboloboy]

My original MK3 has been on display since I got him and has faded quite a bit. Really ruins the figure and I'd love to be able to fix it somehow.

[Balboa]

My Marks IV and VI are good. No color fading.
But my Mark III BD is a total ruin. His waist area is faded.
Any one know some way to fix ?!

[Mr.Zero]

Well yesterday I went to Frank & Son and picked up a OG MK III to replace the faded MK III BD. I talked to the guy about the fading and said he had some paint that works great. He said it's around $15-$20 for the bottle and brush :dunno If I try it, I will let you guys know if it works.

[Balboa]

Well yesterday I went to Frank & Son and picked up a OG MK III to replace the faded MK III BD. I talked to the guy about the fading and said he had some paint that works great. He said it's around $15-$20 for the bottle and brush :dunno If I try it, I will let you guys know if it works.

nice! if it works, please post pictures of the whole process.:)

[Kenmk1]

Well yesterday I went to Frank & Son and picked up a OG MK III to replace the faded MK III BD. I talked to the guy about the fading and said he had some paint that works great. He said it's around $15-$20 for the bottle and brush :dunno If I try it, I will let you guys know if it works.

It would be very useful :hi5:

[Libertica]

pics from my local forum (not best solution and not mine, Dio posted it http://www.modxtoy.com/v1/index.php?showtopic=106568 :wink1: )


http://upic.me/i/yl/yyzyt.jpg (http://upic.me/show/27752312)


1.Disassemble

http://upic.me/i/po/npefj.jpg (http://upic.me/show/27752310)


2. you can spot the fade

http://upic.me/i/5a/cxmzz.jpg (http://upic.me/show/27752305)

3. use paper to cover the upper body
http://upic.me/i/8a/gotv6.jpg (http://upic.me/show/27752307)

http://upic.me/i/qr/unsuf.jpg (http://upic.me/show/27752311)

http://upic.me/i/18/jihv6.jpg (http://upic.me/show/27752308)

Finish :yess:
http://upic.me/i/l8/dtfeo.jpg (http://upic.me/show/27752306)

[gagaliya]

This is not my pic (bandito posted it )and this is the MKVI fade on the diaper.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc45/CAVZ33/IMG_1569.jpg

what exactly is wrong with this iron? I dont see any color fading, looks fine? can you circle the part that was faded :confused:

[Theokan]

pics from my local forum (not mine, Dio posted http://www.modxtoy.com/v1/index.php?showtopic=106568 :wink1: )






http://upic.me/i/18/jihv6.jpg (http://upic.me/show/27752308)

Finish :yess:


Does he say anywhere how he matches the color? I mean does he actual mixes it to match or is there actually a paint brand/color available in the market that is exactly what HT uses?

[Libertica]

Does he say anywhere how he matches the color? I mean does he actual mixes it to match or is there actually a paint brand/color available in the market that is exactly what HT uses?

He said CLEAR RED acrylic no.47 from MR.COLOR

[BISHART]

none of mine have faded. keep them out of sun.

[Hydeous]

He said CLEAR RED acrylic no.47 from MR.COLOR
Looks good.

the paint wont cover the black linings? It seems he just airbrush the whole thing, but the black lines are still visible.

[Mr.Zero]

Amazon seller has the paint for around $6

Amazon.com: Gundam Mr. Color 47 - Clear Red (Gloss / Primary) Paint 10ml. Bottle Hobby: Toys & Games

[SixthScaleEdward]

Mine looks faded in pics but not in person.. :dunno

Thanks for those who posted solutions though, might be useful in the future :gah:

[Theokan]

This is really good information to know for custom projects:) Thanks!

By the way, anyone knows which color matches the gold? :)

[chRd]

went to a local customizer and asked for a quote to repaint the speedos. he was hesitant and didnt encourage me to have mine painted as there were some who already had theirs done but in 2-3 months, fading happens again. they say the material used has something to do with it. regardless of paint.

[BB&WSF]

Guess HT should give us a bottle of No.47 MR.COLOR as one of the accessories with all the IMs in future :mad:

[customfreak]

buffing the rubber diaper with a lens cloth made a considerable difference on my mark iii and vi. Not so much on the mark iii abdomen but the diapers i am very surprised at the difference. give it a try

[erik352]

I just can't understand why hot toys continue to use rubber on Iron Man...Im sure they know the fade issue a couple of months after they release the mark 3....

[Demondm810]

What's the best way to prevent the fading? Or is it inevitable.

[cozzie]

He said CLEAR RED acrylic no.47 from MR.COLOR

does anyone know what colour the battle damaged mark iii would be ?

[BISHART]

What's the best way to prevent the fading? Or is it inevitable.

keep it out of the sun.

[mikericm]

Now this makes me want to open mine to see if there is a problem. I REALLY hope not. My biggest critisim of SS/HT is handling problems. Especially shipping. My odin had a nice sized dent in the shipper.

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

What's the best way to prevent the fading? Or is it inevitable.

Not to buy 1.

HT and rubber don't mix, seems they have issues with a majority of their figures that use rubber parts.

[Lejuan]

Now this makes me want to open mine to see if there is a problem. I REALLY hope not. My biggest critisim of SS/HT is handling problems. Especially shipping. My odin had a nice sized dent in the shipper.

I'm pretty sure you can attribute any damage to parcels to FedEx rather than SS/HT.

[lerath666]

while the paint in mine is fine, one of his knees is super loose. anyone got any fixes for that?

[SSC EX Hunter]

Im honestly convinced that Hot Toys doesnt care about us, lets be honest here, we had faulty PERS systems, rubber batman suits that melted, and now this?! Comeon people...we must rebel! lol

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

Im honestly convinced that Hot Toys doesnt care about us, lets be honest here, we had faulty PERS systems, rubber batman suits that melted, and now this?! Comeon people...we must rebel! lol

Well their customer service regarding those issues sure sucks. If another company could step up and compete with HT in terms of # of licenses & releases I'd be happy to give them a chance. Too bad Enterbay chooses odd licenses and characters a majority of the time and drops the ball during production frequently. We're all screwed :D

[SSC EX Hunter]

If they pull this kinda karap on us when the keaton batman is released, I'm gonna organize a boycott of HT products lol

[Avenger]

Just checked my mark iv. no fade that I can see.

[Avenger]

Well their customer service regarding those issues sure sucks. If another company could step up and compete with HT in terms of # of licenses & releases I'd be happy to give them a chance. Too bad Enterbay chooses odd licenses and characters a majority of the time and drops the ball during production frequently. We're all screwed :D

Yeah, HT is brilliant for their product, but their service if things goes bad is pretty lacking. I really shy from the rubber stuff because of the previous problems, but am taking some risks in the batman line. You can't not take risks there if you want a batman figure.

[jayveeeusebio]

keep it out of the sun.

My Mark III BD is still MIB & never displayed but it already has pink panties & neck! :monkey2

Sold it last week. :(

[Mr.Zero]

How much did you sell it for? If you don't mine me asking.^^^

BTW when I bought the MKIII some guy there that said he worked with rubber and said that this was mostly only happening to a certain batches due to proper mishandling of the materials. He explained properly but I lost interest and zoned out.:lol

[lerath666]

If they pull this kinda karap on us when the keaton batman is released, I'm gonna organize a boycott of HT products lol


Yeah, HT is brilliant for their product, but their service if things goes bad is pretty lacking. I really shy from the rubber stuff because of the previous problems, but am taking some risks in the batman line. You can't not take risks there if you want a batman figure.

if history teaches us anything, Expect the rubber suit on batman to rot apart.


that reminds me... is should go get my Takara batman from my parents house... he might be ruined.


wonder if i can use this technique to fix my comic book magneto's fading purple boots.

[Stance4]

Original Mark III - Faded
Mark III - Faded
Mark IV - Fine
First Mark VI - Faded, straight out of the box
Second Mark VI - Fine

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

Original Mark III - Faded
Mark III - Faded
Mark IV - Fine
First Mark VI - Faded, straight out of the box
Second Mark VI - Fine

:postpics:

[mikericm]

I'm pretty sure you can attribute any damage to parcels to FedEx rather than SS/HT.

True. But I'd be glad to pay $5 more for padded shipping in a bigger box.

[Lejuan]

True. But I'd be glad to pay $5 more for padded shipping in a bigger box.

If you're in the US then you can pay $10 for padding shipping in a bigger box. Other places it will jack it up a bit more, but SSC does offer this to customers. Just request a pack-out.

[JohnnyT]

Fanboy Collectibles ships in a giant box with tons of foam packing peanuts. They charge no extra for this. They are hands-down the best at customer service. They know what collectors want! Sideshow points mean nothing compared to getting the product shipped safe!

[JohnnyT]

Fanboy Collectibles ships in a giant box with tons of foam packing peanuts. They charge no extra for this. They are hands-down the best at customer service. They know what collectors want! Sideshow points mean nothing compared to getting the product shipped safe!

For example, this is how they packed Spider-Man!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-W-2WmzNZU84/Tk16ikxoNiI/AAAAAAAAAgw/5sn5VRKnsQI/s1600/Hot+Toys+Spider-Man+3+004.JPG

[SSC EX Hunter]

Wow thats some pretty sick packaging! are u sure there are no hidden fees? lol

[TheVictor11]

I'm not sure how many of these are fading. It just baffles me because people say it could be dust or sun or even temperature but I've had all mine since release and none of mine have faded. I have them displayed on an open shelf (they get dusted though), 10ft x 6ft windows only 6ft away (but not direct sunlight) and it gets humid/freezing in here depending on the outside temperature.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a135/Rift11/DSCF0024.jpg

Was taken back in March-ish, I just checked them and the only thing I noticed is the Mark III BD's crotch is starting to pink I think. Maybe I'm just lucky but I don't feel like dust or temperature has anything to do with it.

[dcflake]

I've got a BD Mark III mark IV and Mark VI all I have had about a month after launch in Hong Kong. They are all stored in Detolfs whinin the same cabinet and have been since they where bought.

None have faded yet however the Mark IV seems a slightly lighter colour than the rest. I remember noticing that when i bought and the paint on the rubber parts of all the figures never quite matched the paint on the plastic 100% but my Mark IV seems the most different to either of the other two.

It's not too noticable (only in direct strong light at the right angle) and as I said they are all slightly off. But strange if it is starting to fade. They have all been exposed to the same conditions for different amounts of time (Mark III longer Mark VI shorter) but why only one would fade is beyond me. If any do start to fade then we can rule out conditions the figures have been exposed to because they are all in the same cabinet.

[HYMN]

No fading no my mark 6.

[Darth Mangler]

I have not had any fading issues either. Doesn't mean that it won't happen though.

[dave-3003-]

i dont have any fading issues on mine also, just have to keep the figure away from sunlight and protect my ironman iv with a display case, it still look clean and glossy till today.:wink1:

[kajobaldisimo]

i think fading is inevitable.

so i'm learning how to paint.

:cool:

[jayveeeusebio]

i think fading is inevitable.

so i'm learning how to paint.

:cool:

Goodluck dude! :wave

[chRd]

yes its inevitable. time to get those markers

[HYMN]

Why "inevitable"? Too many owners has NO fade on his figures.

[Butters]

Because THEY say so...

No question!

Must be true!

FACT!

Everyone will rue the day they ever got anything Iron Man!

:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

[Kenmk1]

Because THEY say so...

No question!

Must be true!

FACT!

:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

Don't be arrogant dude. People are complaining about fadding, me included.

I've had Mark III and it turned like crap with the fadding with time, so I sold it. Then I bought the mark IV because I thought HT may solved the problem, but with time, my Mark IV is starting fadding... I'm talking about 4-5 month.

It isn't so much, only the up sides of the pelvis. I hope it remains like that and wouldn't get worse. I'm pissed because I don't pay a generous amount of money to get colour issues or whatever, for the price they asked for it should be perfect

Do you have any IM figures? How long since do you have them?

[Butters]

Don't be arrogant dude. People are complaining about fadding, me included.

I've had Mark III and it turned like crap with the fadding with time, so I sold it. Then I bought the mark IV because I thought HT may solved the problem, but with time, my Mark IV is starting fadding... I'm talking about 4-5 month.

It isn't so much, only the up sides of the pelvis. I hope it remains like that and wouldn't get worse. I'm pissed because I don't pay a generous amount of money to get colour issues or whatever, for the price they asked for it should be perfect

Do you have any IM figures? How long since do you have them?

I have all of them and plenty of friend that do, too, and they don't have any issues.

One of my friends tried lightly polishing his IV with turtle wax and that removed some of the gloss and paint from around the chest area.

Other than that, this is the only place I've seen a few people with problems.

[Balboa]

pics from my local forum (not best solution and not mine, Dio posted it http://www.modxtoy.com/v1/index.php?showtopic=106568 :wink1: )


http://upic.me/i/yl/yyzyt.jpg (http://upic.me/show/27752312)


1.Disassemble

http://upic.me/i/po/npefj.jpg (http://upic.me/show/27752310)


2. you can spot the fade

http://upic.me/i/5a/cxmzz.jpg (http://upic.me/show/27752305)

3. use paper to cover the upper body
http://upic.me/i/8a/gotv6.jpg (http://upic.me/show/27752307)

http://upic.me/i/qr/unsuf.jpg (http://upic.me/show/27752311)

http://upic.me/i/18/jihv6.jpg (http://upic.me/show/27752308)

Finish :yess:
http://upic.me/i/l8/dtfeo.jpg (http://upic.me/show/27752306)

That will do fine for my IM MK3 BD.
But i don´t have the tools and the painter.

[clear red]

too bad your very far from me... i could do it for you foc :P

[Jedah Kalm]

http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/customavatars/avatar11288_3.gif

Dammit, Butters, your new avatar is making me nauseous. :yuck

[Darth Mangler]

All my Iron Man figures are ok except I now notice a very faint amount of fading on the MKIII BD figure. Isn't the red on this figure different than on the MKIII figure? Which red would I use.

[a-dev]

Butters doesn't have problems with any of his figures it seems. I thought I was pretty lucky with my toys - until I started collecting NECA and until the DX02 Batman and Iron Man Mark III, but without fail - every single thread in which some HT QC problem is discussed there's Butters - 'No, my figure's fine'. Why are you special getting these flawless figures every time?

[Lejuan]

All my Iron Man figures are ok except I now notice a very faint amount of fading on the MKIII BD figure. Isn't the red on this figure different than on the MKIII figure? Which red would I use.

He said CLEAR RED acrylic no.47 from MR.COLOR

http://img1.wantitall.co.za/images/ShowImage.aspx?ImageId=Gundam-Mr-Color-47-Clear-Red-Gloss-Primary-Paint-10ml-Bottle-Hobby|417c5Hvd03L.jpg

OR for those without an airbrush kit:

http://www.xl-shop.com/xlshop/product_images/Gunze_Sangyo/MRH_SPRAY_CAN_NO_47.jpg


:wave

[Darth Mangler]

Great, I have an airbrush kit and will look for this.

[Lejuan]

Remember if the colour doesn't match it's all Libertica's fault :lol

[Balboa]

OR for those without an airbrush kit:

http://www.xl-shop.com/xlshop/product_images/Gunze_Sangyo/MRH_SPRAY_CAN_NO_47.jpg


:wave

This is the one recommended for Mark 3 BD ?

[Lejuan]

This is the one recommended for Mark 3 BD ?

Ah... good question!!! My understanding is that it's for the MK IV and VI... Libertica can confirm. Sorry Darth, I got your question all about face :(

[Darth Mangler]

No problem. Hopefully someone can tell me which red is for the BD MK III.

[Balboa]

No problem. Hopefully someone can tell me which red is for the BD MK III.

if is that ok,please tell me when you find it out.

Tamiya TS-18 Metallic Red is a very different color ?!
http://i53.tinypic.com/zxsb51.jpg

Look at this !

http://www.thetarmac.com/scalemodels/figures/ironman/ironman.htm

[jayveeeusebio]

How much did you sell it for? If you don't mine me asking.^^^

BTW when I bought the MKIII some guy there that said he worked with rubber and said that this was mostly only happening to a certain batches due to proper mishandling of the materials. He explained properly but I lost interest and zoned out.:lol

Sold it for $240 but I'm thinking of getting a EX version of it cause of Monger & don't care if it fade or not since my Mark III, IV & VI has this issue as well.:thud:

[mrclean08]

I've noticed a strange trend with mine. I have a few Mark suits on display on shelves and they have not faded.

The other few Mark suits I have that are MISB have ALL faded. I wonder if it's the damn moisture packet behind the figures that has some sort of chemical reaction with the rubber/paint.

I'm making this assumption that it could be the culprit since none of my fresh air exposed displayed figures have ever encountered fading.

[Lejuan]

I've noticed a strange trend with mine. I have a few Mark suits on display on shelves and they have not faded.

The other few Mark suits I have that are MISB have ALL faded. I wonder if it's the damn moisture packet behind the figures that has some sort of chemical reaction with the rubber/paint.

I'm making this assumption that it could be the culprit since none of my fresh air exposed displayed figures have ever encountered fading.

Now that is an interesting observation that I wish I was smart enough to explain. It does suggest that the paint fade - at least in your case - is not a symptom of UV exposure... who'd have thought it.

[ebor]

Now that is an interesting observation that I wish I was smart enough to explain. It does suggest that the paint fade - at least in your case - is not a symptom of UV exposure... who'd have thought it.

I have the IM mark III still in its box, have since I purchased. I opened recently to remove the batteries (did this will all the toys with batteries) and noticed that there was an ever-so-slight fade on the torso. Very faint but I did do a double-take.

[kajobaldisimo]

I have all of them and plenty of friend that do, too, and they don't have any issues.

One of my friends tried lightly polishing his IV with turtle wax and that removed some of the gloss and paint from around the chest area.

Other than that, this is the only place I've seen a few people with problems.

more power to you and your friends who have flawless, no fade iron mans.

we are discussing fade issues here because this is a Hot Toys Iron Man Fade Issue thread.

my mark 2, 3 bd, 4 and 6 all have fade issues but i don't care. maybe my mark 1 and 5 will have it too someday. i'm not really worried though. 2 more years of painting practice, and restoring these things will be a piece of cake, if i even still care when that time comes.

[HottoyzJoker]

Glad I traded and sold off all my Ironman stuff ages ago... With the fade issue now all I need is anthor figure with issuses form HT my Comedian already leaks...

[Lejuan]

Even with pink undies I'd still love the hell outta my Mk IV. It's nice to know there's an easy fix with a repaint so I'm not worried even if it does fade to the point where it bothers me. No way will I be getting rid of him :)

[Balrog]

Even with pink undies I'd still love the hell outta my Mk IV. It's nice to know there's an easy fix with a repaint so I'm not worried even if it does fade to the point where it bothers me. No way will I be getting rid of him :)

True words. My IV has faded, but it's only noticable because it's displayed next to a brand new MKVI. MKIV is what led me to this company and he will be the very last to go if I ever decide to sell my Hot Toys.

[jutty]

my MKIV hasnt faded at all, bbut also i have it on display in a cool room out of sunlight

[erwynn]

So far so good for my Mark 4 & 6, no fade issues. :yess:.
But my BD Mark 3 already has faded abs section and neck. :gah:
The thing is, right from the shop, i immediately displayed the Mark 4 & 6, while the BD Mark 3 lingered in its box for about 6 months or so coz i didn't have a display cabinet then.

[The Side of the Show]

So the Sunlight is the Main Reason why the paint fades? hmm Alright, I always pose my figures for my Photography purposes and do i need gloves when handling this figures?

[Lejuan]

So the Sunlight is the Main Reason why the paint fades? hmm Alright, I always pose my figures for my Photography purposes and do i need gloves when handling this figures?

mrclean pointed out that his MISB figs all had fading issues whereas his displayed ones didn't, so sunlight isn't necessarily the culprit. And yeh, the IM figs are fingerprint magnets, I'd wear gloves handling them.

[jayveeeusebio]

Even with pink undies I'd still love the hell outta my Mk IV. It's nice to know there's an easy fix with a repaint so I'm not worried even if it does fade to the point where it bothers me. No way will I be getting rid of him :)

:exactly:

Now that should be the attitude! :hi5:

[Butters]

more power to you and your friends who have flawless, no fade iron mans.

we are discussing fade issues here because this is a Hot Toys Iron Man Fade Issue thread.

my mark 2, 3 bd, 4 and 6 all have fade issues but i don't care. maybe my mark 1 and 5 will have it too someday. i'm not really worried though. 2 more years of painting practice, and restoring these things will be a piece of cake, if i even still care when that time comes.

I'm certainly not the only one on this forum without fading.

Anyway, it would seem that it's only affecting a limited number of people.

I'll get worried when the old school members with lots of experience start posting about the problem.

It's hard to tell who's telling the truth and who's just trolling because they don't like Hot Toys.

Talk is very cheap, so we need photos to support any arguments about QC...

I don't believe anything without verifiable proof, and that's something that there isn't much of in this thread.

[kajobaldisimo]

mrclean pointed out that his MISB figs all had fading issues whereas his displayed ones didn't, so sunlight isn't necessarily the culprit. And yeh, the IM figs are fingerprint magnets, I'd wear gloves handling them.

that's an interesting theory.

Alex Teo of toyhaven.blogspot said he regreted returning and keeping some of his figs in the box. the storage detriorated the rubber. could be affecting paint as well. or paint on the rubber.

maybe.

[a-dev]

It's hard to tell who's telling the truth and who's just trolling because they don't like Hot Toys.

I love Hot Toys but thats neither here nor there. My Iron Man Mark III had this problem. (sold him)

[pchin]

I've noticed a strange trend with mine. I have a few Mark suits on display on shelves and they have not faded.

The other few Mark suits I have that are MISB have ALL faded. I wonder if it's the damn moisture packet behind the figures that has some sort of chemical reaction with the rubber/paint.

I'm making this assumption that it could be the culprit since none of my fresh air exposed displayed figures have ever encountered fading.

I have asked a few fellow collectors & all of us are having the same situation as mrclean08. Those Mark figs that are on display (no direct sunlight), none of them suffer fade issue while those Mark figs that are MIB or MISB, all suffer fade issue. As per Alex Teo's blog he also suggested to let our figs out of the boxes so they can "breathe".

This time I'm not taking any chance, the moment Mark V arrive, out it goes to my display! :)

[a-dev]

My Mark III was always out on display and he faded. I avoided direct sunlight but he was never in a sealed case.

[pchin]

My Mark III was always out on display and he faded. I avoided direct sunlight but he was never in a sealed case.

As for Mark III, it's a futile case. Regardless if we display, MIB or MISB condition, there is no escape... :(

[EndIessRAlN]

I remember awhile back someone had used a black Gundam marker GM01 if I remember to darken the BD mark III abs and it worked pretty well. Not sure which thread I saw it in. Maybe the old Mark III BD pics thread? He even had pics up.

[The Drizzle]

All of my Iron Men are still fade-free: Mk 3 BD, Mk 4, Mk 6

[kajobaldisimo]

All of my Iron Men are still fade-free: Mk 3 BD, Mk 4, Mk 6

cool.

would love to see pics.

[Avenger]

My Mark IV is not faded. It has been on display. I have seen another that was kept in the packaging, and it had faded underwear. For what it's worth.

[The Drizzle]

that's an interesting theory.

Alex Teo of toyhaven.blogspot said he regreted returning and keeping some of his figs in the box. the storage detriorated the rubber. could be affecting paint as well. or paint on the rubber.

maybe.

It's always possible that the plastic trays the figures come in release gasses over time, like some other plastics. I think the best way to keep your figures is actually standing, outside the package, so nothing is touching up against any soft plastic or rubber parts. (and of course in a cooler, non-humid area with no direct sunlight or lamps close to them) I don't even use the stands because I fear possible contact damage.

[The Ween]

I'm not sure how many of these are fading. It just baffles me because people say it could be dust or sun or even temperature but I've had all mine since release and none of mine have faded. I have them displayed on an open shelf (they get dusted though), 10ft x 6ft windows only 6ft away (but not direct sunlight) and it gets humid/freezing in here depending on the outside temperature.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a135/Rift11/DSCF0024.jpg

Was taken back in March-ish, I just checked them and the only thing I noticed is the Mark III BD's crotch is starting to pink I think. Maybe I'm just lucky but I don't feel like dust or temperature has anything to do with it.

Red is the easiest color to fade. I had red glass that went clear in sunlight. Just be careful.

[ah_t00t]

Does anyone have problem with the Iron man Mark III BD exclusive crushed helm as well? When i recieved mine, there were already red stains on the plastic covers, my fingers were even stained with it. My guess is the paint didn't allow enough time to really let it dry in the factory.

The last time i checked my IM figures in their boxes were in July and they seemed alright, no fades. I dunno if this helps but i always take out the batteries & wrapped plastic food wrappers around them entirely then kept it back into the box.

[Lejuan]

Red is the easiest color to fade. I had red glass that went clear in sunlight. Just be careful.

:lecture Car duco is the same.

[EndIessRAlN]

Found the post from the guy that used the Gundam marker to fix his fading problem!


Here goes....... only pics after customization

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll73/tanyonghua/DSCF0947.jpg

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll73/tanyonghua/DSCF0953.jpg

It is very simple. Just get some ink from your gundam paneling marker on your fingers and start smearing away on the abs. Try to do it evenly to avoid black blotches. if smear is not evenly spread try using a little cooking oil to even out the smear. The ink is removable with alcohol so no worries if u make a mistake.

Do a few layers of smears to get the desired tone and you will have your mark III back in tip top condition. (note i did lose the scuff marks on the abs when doing this)

[Lee in MI]

I've checked both my Mark IV & my Mark VI and they are not faded at all and they are kept in their boxes. BUT, the Mark IV did have a little red paint on the white tray that the figure comes in. So apparently it is not inert and indeed is having a reaction with the paint. I wrapped the figure in tissue paper and returned him to his temporary tomb.

So make sure you guys either remove the white tray or keep the figure from touching it somehow.

[jayveeeusebio]

I've checked both my Mark IV & my Mark VI and they are not faded at all and they are kept in their boxes. BUT, the Mark IV did have a little red paint on the white tray that the figure comes in. So apparently it is not inert and indeed is having a reaction with the paint. I wrapped the figure in tissue paper and returned him to his temporary tomb.

So make sure you guys either remove the white tray or keep the figure from touching it somehow.

Nice! Is tissue safe to use as a barrier from the white tray?

[The Mike]

This phenomenon is really strange. None of my Iron Man figures have ever faded, then again they are all on display, posed once and never touched again so that may be the answer but the fact it's happening really throws me.

[Lee in MI]

I use the thin tissue paper that they wrap the figure boxes with.

I did check my BD MIII and the "panties" are fading out. He's been kept in the box with no direct sunlight. The abs are fine though and they are painted rubber :huh

[16k]

Okay, that's very interesting, but what reference color is he using?

Found the post from the guy that used the Gundam marker to fix his fading problem!

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

This is very intersting in terms of what is causing it, it seems some fade while displayed and others don't, same situation for being left in the box.

Maybe its a batch issue :dunno

[Lee in MI]

I wonder if it's just an issue with that type of plastic and the metallic paint as it looks like the plastic isn't holding the pigment component of the paint.

The crappy part about that would be that they might all eventually end up the same way over time. I checked my original Mark III today and it is showing signs of fading in both the shorts & the abs but it's not as pronounced as I've seen in others pics and it took a long time for it to become noticeable. I've seen others that started fading some time ago. :huh

[jayveeeusebio]

I use the thin tissue paper that they wrap the figure boxes with.

I did check my BD MIII and the "panties" are fading out. He's been kept in the box with no direct sunlight. The abs are fine though and they are painted rubber :huh

Oh I see. Might try using that as well. Thanks for the advice. :)

[EndIessRAlN]

Sorry for resurrecting this but anyone figure out whats the best color to repaint the Mark III BD abs? I noticed that the Mr. Color #47 is great for the Mark IV but the Mark III is slightly darker by maybe a shade. Would it matter?

[Eamon]

I think my BD Mark III is fading a tiny bit so all the info about paints is great! :)

[kkchan]

My Iron Man rubber part has become faded, tried to remove the IM neck rubber, accidentally removed it but donno how to put it back.

Anyone can teach the right way to remove and put back the neck rubber ?

Thank you

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/298362_10150428128075141_699200140_10371237_105064 2338_n.jpg

[mrclean08]

I posted a while back that I believed that the discoloring may be due to the silica pack included with the figures. My displayed figures are not discolored; however, my sealed MISB figures that include the silica pack all have pink rubber parts.

I just purchased a brand new sealed Mark III (clean) and noticed it did not come packaged with a silica pack. The rubber sections are just as dark as the hard armored parts. I still believe my assumption about the silica pack more than ever now.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/michaelcabrera/Macro/Mark3Clean3w.jpg

[SixthScaleEdward]

cum hoc, ergo propter hoc :lecture

[Avenger]

I posted a while back that I believed that the discoloring may be due to the silica pack included with the figures. My displayed figures are not discolored; however, my sealed MISB figures that include the silica pack all have pink rubber parts.

I just purchased a brand new sealed Mark III (clean) and noticed it did not come packaged with a silica pack. The rubber sections are just as dark as the hard armored parts. I still believe my assumption about the silica pack more than ever now.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/michaelcabrera/Macro/Mark3Clean3w.jpg

I don't know if that's your pic, but it's the best image I've seen of the Mark III. Very nice.

[mrclean08]

I don't know if that's your pic, but it's the best image I've seen of the Mark III. Very nice.

Thanks bro. It's my pic. I just opened him this evening. :)

[chRd]

what's the logic behind the silica pack doing the damage?

[DWExia]

Anyone here knows how to fix loose knee joints for iron man hot toys?

[-=LoneWolf=-]

what's the logic behind the silica pack doing the damage?

sucks away the gloss coating, leaving it bone dry and faded. i think :pfft:

[wrcfan]

Anyone here knows how to fix loose knee joints for iron man hot toys?

I use this to repair loose joints. The 3 step easy method:

1. Open the joint, believe its screws holding it together.

2. Apply some nail polish at joint, wait for it to dry.

3. fit back, should be tight already. If not repeat 1 to 3 again applying more coats.

Hope it helps

[DWExia]

Erm sorry to ask but what kinda nail polish? As in the ones that girls use to paint their nails?

[wrcfan]

Erm sorry to ask but what kinda nail polish? As in the ones that girls use to paint their nails?
Ehh yes, use those clear ones.

[DWExia]

Ah thanks will give it a try. Hope can fix my dangling knee issue.

[mrclean08]

I use this to repair loose joints. The 3 step easy method:

1. Open the joint, believe its screws holding it together.

2. Apply some nail polish at joint, wait for it to dry.

3. fit back, should be tight already. If not repeat 1 to 3 again applying more coats.

Hope it helps

I'm interested in doing this, but curious on how long does this last? Does the nail polish eventually erode away after so much movement after time?

[kajobaldisimo]

I posted a while back that I believed that the discoloring may be due to the silica pack included with the figures. My displayed figures are not discolored; however, my sealed MISB figures that include the silica pack all have pink rubber parts.

I just purchased a brand new sealed Mark III (clean) and noticed it did not come packaged with a silica pack. The rubber sections are just as dark as the hard armored parts. I still believe my assumption about the silica pack more than ever now.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/michaelcabrera/Macro/Mark3Clean3w.jpg

What a beautiful picture this is.

[mrclean08]

What a beautiful picture this is.

Salamat pare!! :)

[mywii]

I posted a while back that I believed that the discoloring may be due to the silica pack included with the figures. My displayed figures are not discolored; however, my sealed MISB figures that include the silica pack all have pink rubber parts.

I just purchased a brand new sealed Mark III (clean) and noticed it did not come packaged with a silica pack. The rubber sections are just as dark as the hard armored parts. I still believe my assumption about the silica pack more than ever now.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a70/michaelcabrera/Macro/Mark3Clean3w.jpg


This is mk 3 2nd batch. It will never fade becoz that is the color of the rubber and it's not painted. 1st batch is more metallic and it will fade. I hv the 1st and 2nd batch. My other marks will fade whether its display or in the box. Seems in the box is faster in fading. I tried the below. Just sharing my experience.

Before:

http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq178/mystarwars/Marvel/4ccb018a.jpg


All you need:

http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq178/mystarwars/Marvel/1eaec404.jpg


Result:

http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq178/mystarwars/Marvel/c2545dd7.jpg

My second attempt. 1st attempt was on mk 3 BD

[SixthScaleEdward]

What red paint did you use?

[mywii]

No painting needed as that is the original rubber color. It's in matt though so glaze it to gloss. I was told if u paint it u Sud not bend it coz paint might cracked. With what I did u can still bend it without worry.

[SixthScaleEdward]

Wow, didnt know Mk IV rubber has the same base color as the mark III's!

Can you give us more high res pics of the Mark IV after the mod? :D

[mywii]

Completed-mission accomplished

http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq178/mystarwars/Marvel/24166369.jpg

[spiderbo]

No painting needed as that is the original rubber color. It's in matt though so glaze it to gloss. I was told if u paint it u Sud not bend it coz paint might cracked. With what I did u can still bend it without worry.

Stupid because it's right there in the picture but what is that? Did you use both of those cans in that picture?

[chRd]

no paint needed? so putting thinner will restore the red?

[BB&WSF]

Pretty lame on HT's part if that's the case. I mean why would you paint something red which is already red :cuckoo:

[jayveeeusebio]

This is mk 3 2nd batch. It will never fade becoz that is the color of the rubber and it's not painted. 1st batch is more metallic and it will fade. I hv the 1st and 2nd batch. My other marks will fade whether its display or in the box. Seems in the box is faster in fading. I tried the below. Just sharing my experience.

:horror Whoah, I never thought Mark III had a 2nd batch back in those days. :cuckoo:

[mywii]

Stupid because it's right there in the picture but what is that? Did you use both of those cans in that picture?

The "S" word is pretty rude. Try not to use it. :lecture

Yes, you have to use both can. Thinner is to rub off the metallic paint. Under the metallic paint is the matt deep red rubber undies. I use the polyglaze to give it back the shine or one may call gloss finish.

[mywii]

Pretty lame on HT's part if that's the case. I mean why would you paint something red which is already red :cuckoo:

Agree. They could have just mould the rubber the same color instead of painting which will fade.

[mywii]

:horror Whoah, I never thought Mark III had a 2nd batch back in those days. :cuckoo:

now you know :cuckoo: :lol

[spiderbo]

The "S" word is pretty rude. Try not to use it. :lecture

Yes, you have to use both can. Thinner is to rub off the metallic paint. Under the metallic paint is the matt deep red rubber undies. I use the polyglaze to give it back the shine or one may call gloss finish.

I was talking about myself. Not you.

[Firebird]

@mywii - How did you get the rubber undies off. I tried and it is glued very well to my figure. I tried several attempts with no success. This issue is on my Mark VI EX figure. Is there any tips you can give me?

[SixthScaleEdward]

Agree. They could have just mould the rubber the same color instead of painting which will fade.

Weird thing is, they moulded it red AND painted it in red :cuckoo:

And what's more weird is that when the red paint fades, it doesnt show up the red rubber underneath. rather a silvery hue shows up :lol

[mywii]

I was talking about myself. Not you.

That's even worst. How can u call yourself that ... :slap

[mywii]

@mywii - How did you get the rubber undies off. I tried and it is glued very well to my figure. I tried several attempts with no success. This issue is on my Mark VI EX figure. Is there any tips you can give me?

Mine mark 6 come off only with a simple pull. Guess they stinged glue on mine. Guess you can use hairdryer or a blade to slowly get it off.

[mywii]

Weird thing is, they moulded it red AND painted it in red :cuckoo:

And what's more weird is that when the red paint fades, it doesnt show up the red rubber underneath. rather a silvery hue shows up :lol

When I was rubbing the paint off there is a layer of silver. Probably the red paint fade and you have a light red and silver that's make it looks like pink. I am just guessing here though..

[Firebird]

Mine mark 6 come off only with a simple pull. Guess they stinged glue on mine. Guess you can use hairdryer or a blade to slowly get it off.

Thanks for the reply. I try it again this weekend.

[clear red]

@mywii --> i really do appreciate you sharing this mod, can i ask how exactly you removed the original (faded) paint off?
- did you soak it with the leveling thinner?
- use a paint brush dipped with thinner and gently rub off the paint?
- use a cloth dipped with thinner?

and did you re-do any of the panel lines since its possible that some if not all of it will be rubbed off during the 1st stage of the mod.

thanks for the reply

[mywii]

I pour the thinner to a cotton ball and rub the paint off.

U shouldn't rub the lines as its indent but if u do just use a fine tip black liner pen. Some of the paint that u rub off might get caught in those lines. You can just use a toothpick and pick it out...

[Darth Mangler]

I need to do this with my MKIII BD Iron man. Did yours come out ok with this mod? I assume you took the legs off and then pulled the diaper off?

[mywii]

I need to do this with my MKIII BD Iron man. Did yours come out ok with this mod? I assume you took the legs off and then pulled the diaper off?

Better than pinkish undies for sure. Pull the leg off but I could not get the undies off so I just put cardboard in between the undies and the abd before rubbing the thinner...

[Kenmk1]

Better than pinkish undies for sure. Pull the leg off but I could not get the undies off so I just put cardboard in between the undies and the abd before rubbing the thinner...

Could you please take another photo with better resolution to the "finished product"?

Just to look the contrast with the legs/torso better!

Thank you! ;)

[EndIessRAlN]

This trick works for the Mark III BD also?

[EndIessRAlN]

Just used some goof off and removed the paint and to my surprise the darker red on the rubber underneath the paintis a much better match to the armor to my mark III than the original paint. Can't wait to finish this up.

[Darth Mangler]

Just used some goof off and removed the paint and to my surprise the darker red on the rubber underneath the paintis a much better match to the armor to my mark III than the original paint. Can't wait to finish this up.

So are you saying that you used a different technique on your Mk III BD than the mk IV? I'm a little confused. My Mk III BD is faded and so should I use the goof off on this or paint thinner?

[mywii]

share some pics man

[EndIessRAlN]

Goof off is similar to paint thinners. Removes gunk and other stuff off surfaces and strong enough to remove paint also. I would go with thinners because it's main purpose is to remove paint.

Still a work in progress. Anyone can recommend a good black detailing pen to fill in the lines? Mine got removes when I was cleaning the paint off. And my Gundam pen ran out.

[pins79]

This is ridiculous! My second hot toys figure was a Mark 3 BD exclusive, purchased on ebay BNIB in shipper and what do I find? Faded torso and undies. Pretty pissed...

This is a huge turn off to a new collector who paid like $330 for this friggin' thing...

Might sell it for $200 to anyone who might want to mod it out...hmm...

[Kenmk1]

This is ridiculous! My second hot toys figure was a Mark 3 BD exclusive, purchased on ebay BNIB in shipper and what do I find? Faded torso and undies. Pretty pissed...

This is a huge turn off to a new collector who paid like $330 for this friggin' thing...

Might sell it for $200 to anyone who might want to mod it out...hmm...

I'm sorry for heard that :(

My first Hot Toys figure was the Mark III, I bought it the last year, when I saw the torso... It wasn't all faded but was visible, so I sold it and bought a Mark IV that's WAY BETTER and doesn't look like a cheap toy...

Try to fix it! in the previous page someone had posted a solution to the problem.

[pins79]

I don't trust myself fixing it...rather sell it at a loss and have someone else with more skills deal with it. Thanks

[dfchang]

Still don't know what to think about this.

So many theories.

I'm getting a Mark IV and Mark VI both unopened. Pictures show no hint of fading. I'm going to display these guys so they're getting taken for sure.

If the problem is the silica gel as some have speculated then I'm good right?

How much of an effect does light really have on them? I'm not planning on displaying them in direct sunlight but They're not going to be in the shadows either.

If there hasn't been a fade noticed after a year plus unopened, is it safe to say that these particular batches sidestepped the problem?

Dennis

[mywii]

Whether in the box or displayed, be prepared it will fade. The method I posted does not need any special skill. It's just need some nerve to start it. And at the moment is the cheapest method. Thinner, Car dashboard glaze, cotton ball and fine black liner are all you need.

[EndIessRAlN]

Whether in the box or displayed, be prepared it will fade. The method I posted does not need any special skill. It's just need some nerve to start it. And at the moment is the cheapest method. Thinner, Car dashboard glaze, cotton ball and fine black liner are all you need.

I have to agree the method is looking pretty good so far. Any recommendations on what kind of fine black liner I could use?

[mywii]

I have to agree the method is looking pretty good so far. Any recommendations on what kind of fine black liner I could use?

I use tamiya. U can also use artliner fine.

[tylerdurden]

my mark VI is also showing signs of fading at the "undies" area. it's a lighter shade of red than the rest of the armour. :mad:

the figure has hardly been handled, it just stands there in a display cabinet, away from dust and strong sunlight. this is prob just the paint that ht used that's reacting to the plastic/rubber of the area. sucks.

[xenom0rph]

Hi Guys

I was directed here by a youtube friend and decided to give the solution of mywii a try. Looks like it worked pretty good so far - have it taped on video and will give you a little tutorial. Stay tuned...will upload it later when done with applying the gloss / nail polish.

Cheers

[Kenmk1]

Hi Guys

I was directed here by a youtube friend and decided to give the solution of mywii a try. Looks like it worked pretty good so far - have it taped on video and will give you a little tutorial. Stay tuned...will upload it later when done with applying the gloss / nail polish.

Cheers

:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap

Thank you very much!!! Waiting for news :)

[xenom0rph]

Written tutorial here:
http://www.xenom0rph.com/2012/02/hot-toys-iron-man-mark-iii-iv-vi-color.html

Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN7kxfaBlcw

[CTO15]

Great tutorial, love the songs in the background

[mywii]

Hi Guys

I was directed here by a youtube friend and decided to give the solution of mywii a try. Looks like it worked pretty good so far - have it taped on video and will give you a little tutorial. Stay tuned...will upload it later when done with applying the gloss / nail polish.

Cheers

Great....any chance of putting at the end of your video....Solution by : mywii .....:wink1:

[xenom0rph]

I can do. :-) Will put it in th einfo description and as annotation to the vid. Cheers and thanks

[mywii]

:) thanks man. Don't know anyone else try it and what's d feedback.

[mojo customz]

i repainted mine with tamiya clear red------works great------------

[mywii]

I was told u can't bend the undies for painting as d paint will cracked/peeled. How true is that?

[jayveeeusebio]

Written tutorial here:
http://www.xenom0rph.com/2012/02/hot-toys-iron-man-mark-iii-iv-vi-color.html

Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN7kxfaBlcw

TFS this tutorial xeno! :hi5: This would really help a lot since my IV & VI looks like sissys already! :thud:

[Balboa]

Hello,

Need help.
Does this color works to use on Mark 3 BD ?
Tamiya TS-18 Metallic Red is a very different color ?!
http://i53.tinypic.com/zxsb51.jpg

Or should I use the clear red ?
Mark 3 BD has a very shine red.. I'm lost.

[Iceberg66]

I thank you. :clap

Through the guidance of the video, I managed to resolve my Mark3 ver.1 fade problem.

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk299/Iceberg_00/IMG_1779.jpg

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk299/Iceberg_00/IMG_1778.jpg

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk299/Iceberg_00/IMG_1777.jpg

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk299/Iceberg_00/IMG_1776.jpg

[sallah]

Thinking about attempting this mod on my slightly faded BD MK III and my MK IV this weekend... Couple of quick questions though-

1.) What type of nail polish remover should I use... Regular or Non-Acetone?
2.) What type of spray coat should I use? Gloss or Semi-Gloss? Acrylic? Krylon?
3.) On the BD MK III, the ab piece is also made of rubber (like the undies). How does one get that off to do this technique?

Thanks in advance for any help!

Sallah

[Hadleysdad]

It's good to see guys on here helping one another out! I'm so glad none of my iron men have faded (knock on wood)

[thecorsair]

I recieved a sealed Mark VI yesterday and noticed some fading has ocurred which is annoying but at least there's a possible fix.

I'm just unsure whether to attempt it as my track record at taking stuff apart without breaking anything isn't great.

[DFanatic]

Yo, I am looking for someone that could possibly repaint the "pink panties" on my Mark IV. The color has faded and I would like to have it back to its old glory. I was thinking of having something like this done:

http://upic.me/i/yl/yyzyt.jpg

http://upic.me/i/qr/unsuf.jpg

http://upic.me/i/l8/dtfeo.jpg

Is that something that any body here could and would be willing to do? I was thinking maybe send the part by mail. If you can help, hit me up with a pm and quote (only people from North America, please)

Cheers!

[CTO15]

If you know what color paints are used, it should be pretty easy to do

[DFanatic]

If you know what color paints are used, it should be pretty easy to do

It has been mentioned what color it is a few pages back, problem is I lack the skills or equipment necessary. I'm looking for someone that has.

[rego]

would painting it even fix the issue? or just start the process all over again?

:dunno

[Avenger]

Add me to the faded parts list. The back of the neck on my Mark IV has plain faded. The panties are somewhat faded, mostly lost a good deal of the high gloss. The color is still pretty close, maybe fraction of a shade lighter with a tad more goldish metallic hue to it. I think it's the loss of the gloss that contributes the most to how noticable it is. I doubt anyone just looking in my detolf would notice, but I can tell there is a change going on.

The interesting thing is that it's now what, 2 years since they shipped these? I'm surprised it's taken this long. I've been watching for it, and thought I was in the clear. I guess if it's already gone through all the change it's going to, I am pretty lucky. It's not that noticeable if you don't know about the problem and look for it. Even then, you're like "wait, is that faded...no, well maybe, yeah a little". I can't get a good photo exhibiting the color difference, because it's that close and only visible upon close inspection. The back of the neck is completely different, being clearly faded. So, hopefully these would have faded at the same rate, and the panties are as bad as they'll ever be.

[Ninjaknight]

Anyone willing to do a repaint commission?

[Hydeous]

My new ones (mark IV gantry set and mark vi from avengers set) are fine so far.

[Butters]

Yeah, no problems with any of mine -- old or new.

[Ninjaknight]

Where do you guys display your figures?

Also anyone notice the neck fading aswell?

[skullboy]

Add me to the faded parts list. The back of the neck on my Mark IV has plain faded. The panties are somewhat faded, mostly lost a good deal of the high gloss. The color is still pretty close, maybe fraction of a shade lighter with a tad more goldish metallic hue to it. I think it's the loss of the gloss that contributes the most to how noticable it is. I doubt anyone just looking in my detolf would notice, but I can tell there is a change going on.

The interesting thing is that it's now what, 2 years since they shipped these? I'm surprised it's taken this long. I've been watching for it, and thought I was in the clear. I guess if it's already gone through all the change it's going to, I am pretty lucky. It's not that noticeable if you don't know about the problem and look for it. Even then, you're like "wait, is that faded...no, well maybe, yeah a little". I can't get a good photo exhibiting the color difference, because it's that close and only visible upon close inspection. The back of the neck is completely different, being clearly faded. So, hopefully these would have faded at the same rate, and the panties are as bad as they'll ever be.

Once they go they go quick, mine did :panic:

[TitanCi]

Didn't know this was an issue, is it from just from the UV and stuff??

[chRd]

nope. there are some brand new ones which already have the fading. just the same, you cant really say it's the weather or climate of a certain country as there's crazy statistics. IMO, it's gotta be a certain batch.

[Dollmanron]

It's all about sunlight, it fades everything. I never let my Ironmans set in direct sunlight, most of the time they're in the shadows. When I want them lighted it's with indoor lighting and not even that for very long. I''ve only noticed on my original MK III with some fade, but I'm not the first owner.

I treat my Batmans, and the rest of my Hot Toys for that matter the same way. They're all made of too much rubber and plastic to take any chances.

[chRd]

^ i don't think that explains why some brand new ones still in boxes are already fading

[Dollmanron]

There's heat too, but it could just be a issue of the paint and the plastic making a chemical change over time as anything else.

[phantom_gray]

Hi guys, just bought a mark 4 from ebay and it does have the pinks panties. What kind of paint should i use? I have a nail gloss polish, will that work or should I buy paint? Thanks

[medicomsucks]

There's a youtube video of a guy who shows you how to fix the pink panties. You only need to wipe that gloss finish off with acetone. The plastic is actually hot rod red. Once that gloss is off it'll be the original color again, though it won't be glossy of course. You can add that again if you want though.

[phantom_gray]

Thanks! Found the youtube video by xenomorph1. He indicated to use nail polish remover to remove the paint. Then use the gloss to make it shiny.

[Barrow Roll]

The one thing I've always wondered about that technique is if the plastic color underneath the paint has that metallic look to it. It could be the right shade of red, but without that metallic look it still wouldn't really match, IMO.

[Mr Walker]

I suspect what HT need to do is seal the plastic with a gloss before applying the cherry red.

[phantom_gray]

I'm still deciding if I should fixt the pink panties or not. Scared that it might get just worse if I try to fix it. I am thinking to just leave the figure alone :)

[phantom_gray]

went ahead and did the fix for the pink panties on my mark IV. I followed the video buy xenomorph1 - dude, thank you for posting this video:yess:. I think this is a big improvement on the figure.

here are some pics...

[hawkeye]

Watch out and DO NOT USE acetone with OIL.It ruined the panties furthermore and now I do not know what to do.Ill post pics of how it turned out but I think my only option is to paint it the panties(Or get a new figure mark 6).Also im expiriencing paint missing.Small chips of paint went missing in some parts of legs and arms.Anyone expirienced anything like it?Only noticable from close inspection

[phantom_gray]

I used the nail polish removal to remove the pink paint. Underneath this paint was a darker shade of red, closer to the color of the armor. I then used a nail clear gloss polish to make it shiny.

[hawkeye]

I used the nail polish removal to remove the pink paint. Underneath this paint was a darker shade of red, closer to the color of the armor. I then used a nail clear gloss polish to make it shiny.I know what had to be done.While I was doing it I was watching Xenos video but this is what happened
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r447/purple_avenger/IMG_0727_zps01263749.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r447/purple_avenger/IMG_0732_zps979d9279.jpg
I asked myself what went wrong.Then I noticed the nail polish I was using was red color and It had oil.I run to the store got some oil free white polish but nothing happened.I think the oil oiled the color and destroyed it.And now I do not know what to do.Ill go ask to a modelist shop tomorrow for some decent paint to paint it with

[SkyIScrape]

I know what had to be done.While I was doing it I was watching Xenos video but this is what happened
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r447/purple_avenger/IMG_0727_zps01263749.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r447/purple_avenger/IMG_0732_zps979d9279.jpg
I asked myself what went wrong.Then I noticed the nail polish I was using was red color and It had oil.I run to the store got some oil free white polish but nothing happened.I think the oil oiled the color and destroyed it.And now I do not know what to do.Ill go ask to a modelist shop tomorrow for some decent paint to paint it with

Good luck getting it fixed. Personally, I would just buy this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hot-Toys-Iron-Man-2-Suit-Up-Gantry-with-MARK-IV-1-6-HALF-LENGTH-BODY-w-o-arm-/320975273692?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item4abb9dfedc

[hawkeye]

Good luck getting it fixed. Personally, I would just buy this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hot-Toys-Iron-Man-2-Suit-Up-Gantry-with-MARK-IV-1-6-HALF-LENGTH-BODY-w-o-arm-/320975273692?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item4abb9dfedc

Im aware of the listing but spending 100USD for panties is too much.Then again if the fix isnt good this will be my only option

[Iceberg66]

I know what had to be done.While I was doing it I was watching Xenos video but this is what happened
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r447/purple_avenger/IMG_0727_zps01263749.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r447/purple_avenger/IMG_0732_zps979d9279.jpg
I asked myself what went wrong.Then I noticed the nail polish I was using was red color and It had oil.I run to the store got some oil free white polish but nothing happened.I think the oil oiled the color and destroyed it.And now I do not know what to do.Ill go ask to a modelist shop tomorrow for some decent paint to paint it with

Hawkeye, try using spray can paint. Gloss clear or Gloss clear red will do. Also you may clean up the nail paint on the panty with nail removal before you start painting. Cheers...

[hawkeye]

Thanks Ice.Thats what I think Ill do.But my other concern is the black in the recess.Who do I paint it?And then how can I prevent the red spray from spraying over it?I think of using a small point marker to paint it over

[phantom_gray]

sorry to see what happened to your figure.. hope you get if fixed. your last option may be to just buy the ebay body that skyiscrape posted. good luck.

[phantom_gray]

Thanks Ice.Thats what I think Ill do.But my other concern is the black in the recess.Who do I paint it?And then how can I prevent the red spray from spraying over it?I think of using a small point marker to paint it over

Fo me, I just used a black point marker for the black lines on the panties.

[sallah]

Has anyone ever thought about using vaseline to brink back the faded color? I have been reading up a bit on how folks sometime use vaseline to restore color in faded paint and plastic, and I am tempted to try it on a few spots on my BD MK III, but I wasn't sure if anyone here had already tried that method? Would the vaseline react badly with the rubber parts?

Sallah

[Iceberg66]

Thanks Ice.Thats what I think Ill do.But my other concern is the black in the recess.Who do I paint it?And then how can I prevent the red spray from spraying over it?I think of using a small point marker to paint it over

Yes, small point marker is good.
Since you will be going to modelist shop, you may ask for best maker to go well with the spray paint. I know there's 2 types, water-based & oil-based maker.

And I assured you will still see the black line with clear gloss paint spray over it. :wink1:

[chRd]

I know what had to be done.While I was doing it I was watching Xenos video but this is what happened
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r447/purple_avenger/IMG_0727_zps01263749.jpg
http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r447/purple_avenger/IMG_0732_zps979d9279.jpg
I asked myself what went wrong.Then I noticed the nail polish I was using was red color and It had oil.I run to the store got some oil free white polish but nothing happened.I think the oil oiled the color and destroyed it.And now I do not know what to do.Ill go ask to a modelist shop tomorrow for some decent paint to paint it with


??? that's supposed to look that way dude after the acetone. try and get some more of the silver out then finish off with the gloss

[sincnarf]

I tried this mod, never worked. Ended up selling both Mark IV and VI. Being OC, I just can't stand looking at the paint difference. Now, I don't own any IM figure, HT should really find a way to fix this in their future IM releases...hopefully with the rumored Mark 3 v2.0

Goodluck to those who would try this.

[Ailanthus]

Hi guys, my Mk VI has the fading issue too and am looking for a non airbrush fix. I've read up on mywii's technique and Xenomorph's tutorial and would like to see more feedback and pictures. The other fix I see around is using Mr Color spray no.47 clear red on the Mk IV & VI; how has that worked for anyone who's tried it? How many coats do you need?

[Frickeladmin]

Im not able to find the video from xenomorph on youtube. Can someone please provide me a link?

[Ailanthus]

Here ya go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN7kxfaBlcw

[Dollmanron]

Thanks for the video, I don't think any of mine have gotten that bad, really I only notice a color difference when I put them under bright light which I keep them out of at all times. If I ever do have to repaint them I'll know now.

[toyrewind]

How do you remove the pink underwear? Isn't it glued to the plastic part with the ball joint?

[octo]

I only have a slight fade on my "panties" but I think I'm going to try a repaint.

I came across this blog: http://www.beckycustomizer.com/category/16-scales/hot-toys/

To my eyes it looks like a perfect color match

She doesn't recommend using a clear coat because it will crack when the rubber is flexed.

I've also noticed I have a few scratches on the gold paint of the upper arms. I'm considering touching these areas up. People making full size Iron Man armor seem to agree that Dupli-Color Gold Sunburst Metallic is a close match to the "actual" Mk IV and VI. I don't know how close it will match to the Hot Toys gold color but it looks close enough to me and I'm going to try it.

I'll report back later when I'm done.

[Lejuan]

She doesn't recommend using a clear coat because it will crack when the rubber is flexed.



They're undies. How exactly do you expect them to be flexing?

Actually, I'm not sure I wanna know.

[octo]

They're undies. How exactly do you expect them to be flexing?

Actually, I'm not sure I wanna know.

If you just keep your figure in a standard standing pose yeah they won't be flexing, however if you move the legs at all it is going to flex the panties/undies.

In fact I've read members here stating they've gotten creases or warpage in the panties from leaving the figure in an action pose for extended periods.

If you look at the link I provided she got a perfect color match with a glossy finish without using a gloss coat.

However the key to that finish is the wet coat's she did, and I'm a little suspect that finish could crack from repeated stress as well. I won't be using the same brand of paint she used, and instead I'll be using Tamiya.

To add to the discussion of why this is happening, it's pretty obvious that Hot Toys did a candy cote. A base of metallic silver with a top coat of clear red. For whatever reason the clear red is fading, and more of the silver base is showing through which gives the color a more pink tint.

[toyrewind]

What paint thinner should be used? Enamel or Acrylic?

[octo]

I haven't removed any paint from a figure yet, but I would try acrylic thinner first. After all we're talking about Hot Toys here I would imagine they use acrylic paint on these figures, or at most a lacquer based paint.

The beckycustomizer blog seems to be suggesting lacquer thinners, but that might be because that's the type of paint she prefers to use.

I read on a different thread someone used an enamel based thinner and it did some damage to the rubber. However the damage just seemed to be a matte finish of the rubber, and may not have even been damage at all.

Either way I'd start with the most mild thinner first, (Acrylic) and if that doesn't work try a lacquer thinner. Are you going to be repainting, or clear coating the rubber with no paint?

[toyrewind]

I want to try the method from the link you posted. :)

Do you know an acrylic paint that matches what she used?
Also, do you know any cheap but reliable airbrush for a beginner?

Got zero experience on painting but would like to try this. :)

[octo]

Well personally I'm gonna try spray paint first, the mist and wet coat method can be achieved with spray paint the same as an airbrush. In fact people who do this method on auto models prefer spray paint over an airbrush for this technique.

For that I would suggest Tamiya spray paint, it goes on very smooth, and dries very quickly.

For the silver base Tamiya - Mica Silver TS-76 looks like it would be a match.

For the red use Tamiya - TS-74 Clear Red.

You can even take it one step further and get Tamiya polishing compounds to really get the paint to look wet and glossy.

After that you can use a Tamiya fine tipped flat black paint marker to fill in the panel lines.

However if you're still interested in going the airbrush route I can suggest some entry level stuff.