1/6 Scale Horse

[Migwit]

I used to have a website saved in my "Favorites" list of a 1/6 scale site that sold horse figures, along with saddles. I am unable to find that link, and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have deleted it because I have always intended on getting a horse or two for some figures. I know I used to have it saved because I've given it to other folks before when the question has come up about 1/6 scale horses. I don't really want to by the Dragon Horst and Blitz set, but if that's the only way to get a horse, then I guess that's what I'll have to do. Before that happens, though, I thought I'd throw this question out to y'all first.

I appreciate any help! :dance

[creecher]

Hi Migsta, I know I have asked you previously for the link you require. I think I have lost it once again. I thought it was Opsgear, but they haven't anything listed. Try BattleRhino. http://www.thebattlerhino.com/ Go to the search function and type 'saddle'. I tried 'horse' but nix. Only three results, one being the Blitz.

[melvinpelayo]

http://www.toytokyo.com/shopping/index.php/page/product/product_id/1258

[Migwit]

Hey, Creech! :wave Yeah, I remember sending you the link, one that had been posted by someone else on the board. That was the link I was looking for, don't know what happened to it. Weird. Guess whatever site that was is now defunct, 'cuz I have tried every kind of web search I can think of and no hits. :confused:

Melvin, thanks for the link. I love that horse, but it's out of my price range. The link I used to have had a 1/6 horse that looked great, and was around $30-$35, which is about what I was hoping to spend. I guess I'll have to settle for the Dragon Horst and Blitz set, then try to sell the military figure as "loose" or something, since I'm not interested in keeping it. :monkey2

[dr2red]

I don't know if this link will be any help to you but I will keep
looking for you

http://www.hungates.com/Products/Collectibles/BreyerHorses/

Sorry seems Breyer are the wrong size

[Mookeylama]

http://www.firebirdarts.com/animals/7anim28.shtml

that place has a large selection of horses (some 1/6). some flocked or fur covered (my fave), but not many articulated ones. personnaly i don't think any articulated ones look very good, but the best (ironically) are still the MARX horses from the 60s-70s. they can be found usually for around 15-30 bucks on Ebay and i think that site has some too, but u'll probably find'em cheaper on ebay.

[Buffanatic]

Get in line, on Ebay! And let me tell you, darn few of them have been going cheap lately! I know, cause I've been trying to get a horse for my Ramirez! Good luck!:monkey5

P.S. Breyer horses are too small a scale.....I have a number of the large Breyers that I dug out of a box in the garage, and they're something like 1/9th scale.....anyway it makes a 12" figure look like he's riding a pony. Not cool.

[Mookeylama]

yeah, i wish Breyers were 1/6. most look really good. and you're doing a custom RAMIREZ!!!! do u have any pics of him so far???? PLEASE!!

[Migwit]

Hmmm, so it sounds like Marx horses are good but are hard to find on eBay? Drat, just my luck.

I did get a Dragon Dieter horse "Florian Geyer Cavalryman" version. I was starting to get antsy at not finding something and then paid more than I had budgeted for myself for horses ($63 shipped). I had hoped to stay at $40 or under, but silly me I was only searching for Dragon horses. I'll have to expand my search criteria and see what else is out there. :monkey1

Thanks, everyone, for the links and info!

[Rabbit]

Migwit, if you can be patient Dragon is coming out with a new horsed figure in July and Battle Rhino will usually break these down for you. It might be cheaper for you than a whole out of production set. Do a search there for "Taras Karabanyk".


Rabbit

[Migwit]

Thanks, Rabbit, I've emailed them at Battle Rhino for more info on that horse.

:chew :monkey1 :D

[Gruff Old Bear]

I've got a pair of Marx Thunderbots on the way courtesy of eBay. It'll be a project. I'll post pix as they develop.

But here's something that was posted at Twisted Plastic from the Weekend of Heroes show in Ontario CA. Don't know the manufacturer or release date, just what's in the picture. It's called the Revolutionary Philipine Cavalryman:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i24/Gruff_Old_Bear/BBoard%20Pix/woh2006055.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i24/Gruff_Old_Bear/BBoard%20Pix/woh2006056.jpg

Edit: My 2 Marx Johnny West Thunderbolts arrived today, and now that I have them in hand... the horse in the photos above is a restored and repainted Marx Thunderbolt. Maybe this is a custom figure?

[Gruff Old Bear]

I just found a site belonging to a gentleman who made saddles for decades. In retirement he makes 1:6 tack. His site is http://benscustomtack.com/index.htm

Here are a couple of shots of particular interest to Sideshow collectors. I think we all know what Lee's Traveler looked like, but I'd love to know the manufacturer -- the rear leg says it's not a Marx Thunderbolt. Did Breyer ever make a 1:6 horse?

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i24/Gruff_Old_Bear/BBoard%20Pix/DebFritz-bg.jpg

Grant's horse is a converted Thunderbolt, and though it's not painted to look like Grant's horse, the saddle is straight out of a photograph on Ben's site.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i24/Gruff_Old_Bear/BBoard%20Pix/25JW.jpg

[carbo-fation]

Sweet horses! I wish they could move as well.

[Michael Crawford]

Marx made several jointed horses as well.

[Rabbit]

http://www.tahoe2.com/rabbit/dolls/Horse/Horse-43-100.JPG

The articulate Marx horse next to Dragon's Blitz. It is articulate at the shoulders, knees and ankles like Blitz.


http://www.tahoe2.com/rabbit/dolls/Horse/Horse-42-100.JPG

A repainted Marx Thunderbolt next to a Marx horse with articulated head, neck and spine.

http://www.tahoe2.com/rabbit/dolls/Horse/Horse44-100.JPG

Kurt being taught to ride at the dude ranch by Nikki (for size comparisons).

All horses from the Rabbit Collection.


Rabbit

[carbo-fation]

That's awesome! How much are they anyways??

[Gruff Old Bear]

Wow! That Dragon horse is BIG.

Carbo, these are all out of production. It's eBay or the swap meet, I'm afraid. The Dragon horse was sold in a set with a figure, and if you should luck out and find it gathering dust on a store shelf it'll run about $65 - $70. I can't find a price for the new Taras Karabanyk set, but it looks like the same horse. You might try what Rabbit suggests to find the horse parted out from the figure when it comes out next month. The Marx horses last came out in 1975, I think.

Sideshow really ought to think about horses. The LOTR figures are going to cry out for them, and so did the Six Gun Legends. Personally, I don't need articulation. Just big horses in a variety of poses so you can have two or three that aren't exactly alike. I wish Breyer made them in this scale. Guess nobody recognizes the horse Lee is on in the snowy photo above?

[Rabbit]

Mr. Bear is correct, Carbo-fation. I paid about $40 for the Blitz as soon as someone parted it out. All of the Marx horses (I must have close to a dozen plus the Johnny West kid's pony and the buckboard) I bought over 35 years ago from K-Mart. I don't remember what they sold for back then. The difference being that I held on to my stuff when everyone else was throwing them out. Little did I dream that 1/6th would come back into style like never before.

The stock Destiny (a Thunderbolt with wheels for tilting) was rereleased a few years ago with the Noble Knights series. Some of them may still be found (I couldn't find any).


Rabbit

[stickman]

Hello All,

I was able to buy two Blitz' for $30 each including harness, sadle bags, sadle, and blanket from SmallBluePLanet.com last year. Like Gruff Old Bear stated, Dragon USA will be releasing two new variants to their original horse, one will even be black! I'm not sure weather these new horses are the same size as Blitz, (to me they look a tad smaller,) but we will soon find out as they are scheduled to be released shortly, if not already. You might want to try Opstoys, (I heard they're going under) or Monkeydepot.com, these are the only 1:6 scale sites that part figures out, that I know of. Anyone else have a favorite sight for custom 1:6? I'd love to know. Almost all categories of 1:6 could benefit from having horses. As a once avid Planet of the Apes collector, the lack of horses was a huge issue and SSC refused to hear our plea. Lets hope this time around they lend an ear and listen. :confused:

[carbo-fation]

That sucks!! I am going to check on ebay and see if they have any!

[Rabbit]

http://www.thebattlerhino.com/

My current favourite.


Rabbit

[sidecollector]

I feel migwits pain. I've been looking for a long time for a
nice 1/6 horse (for a reasponable price). I did find one, by complete accident.
On ebay. Take a look at the pics. It is a work of art. Shipped from Mexico. I got it for a steal 100 bucks (not including shipping). No kidding. I took a chance and out bid another ebayer by a buck. I decided I would go no more than 100 and won. The tack and saddle are from Bencustomtack. He makes the best. I made modifications from his design. The Grant piece is modeled from the Grant monument in Washington DC. Still have more to do but almost complete. You can still find Marx horses for a steal. Just got to keep checking. They're a bit small for the 1/6 scale and Dragon is a bit too big. This horse fits the bill. Bottom line Sideshow can make a 1/6 horse that would be a beauty.

[carbo-fation]

I feel migwits pain. I've been looking for a long time for a
nice 1/6 horse (for a reasponable price). I did find one, by complete accident.
On ebay. Take a look at the pics. It is a work of art. Shipped from Mexico. I got it for a steal 100 bucks (not including shipping). No kidding. I took a chance and out bid another ebayer by a buck. I decided I would go no more than 100 and won. The tack and saddle are from Bencustomtack. He makes the best. I made modifications from his design. The Grant piece is modeled from the Grant monument in Washington DC. Still have more to do but almost complete. You can still find Marx horses for a steal. Just got to keep checking. They're a bit small for the 1/6 scale and Dragon is a bit too big. This horse fits the bill. Bottom line Sideshow can make a 1/6 horse that would be a beauty.

The horse looks really nice and fits nicely with the figure. Come on Sideshow, make some horses!!

[stickman]

Thanks for the link Rabbit!

Grant looks great onthat horse. Nice picture sidecollector.

[snake2698]

Hi guys, I usally hang out at the 6th brigade, but was just visiting, The horse that General Lee is on is one from the Leonardo Collection from England, you can find them on E-bay sometimes, (be careful they come in different sizes, I now am the proud owner of a 8" horse they are usally listed in cm) There is a guy that I know that does great custom work, I highly recommend. the most realistic that I have seen.
I hope this helps
Thanks,
Mike

http://www.kirbyjonas.com/jwhorses.html

[Gruff Old Bear]

:welcome

..and thanks for the ID on the horse and the advice!

[carbo-fation]

Yes....welcome and thank you for the info!! :D :chew

[Rabbit]

Alert!!

Dragon Taras' horse on sale at http://www.thebattlerhino.com/ for $37.90 including tack. Just do a search for "Taras".


Rabbit

[carbo-fation]

Alert!!

Dragon Taras' horse on sale at http://www.thebattlerhino.com/ for $37.90 including tack. Just do a search for "Taras".


Rabbit

This will fit my 12" figures, correct? Because I am really close to buying this.

[Migwit]

This should be 1/6 scale. Sweet! I'd emailed Battle Rhino a few weeks ago about the horse, to verify it would be sold separately, and voila'! I'm going to get one!!! :chew

[Rabbit]

Carbo-fation, the Dragon horse is 1/6th, but I think he is a little over-large for the scale (see the pictures that I posted earlier here for a comparison). However, with the shortage and high prices of horses in this scale one can't be too picky. I have one of the Dragons and would not buy another, but then I do have about a dozen of the Marx horses left over from the 60's so I can afford to be a little snobbish. If you are interested I wouldn't wait too long to decide as the loose horse may sell out pretty quickly and you'll find yourself back to where you started.

He would make a great Knight's horse as they were bred to be very large to carry the armoured knight into battle. The famous Budwieser Clydesdales are of this type.


Rabbit

[Gruff Old Bear]

I ordered one too -- thanks for the heads-up, Rabbit.

My first Marx horse is undergoing surgery now...I dissolved the glue and split it apart and am filling it with Durham's to give it "heft." After sealing with expanding Gorilla Glue I will repaint, and perhaps replace the tail and mane with hair.

Any advice out there on where to find hair for the tail and mane?

[stickman]

After you get the horse would you mind posting some pics? Thanks

[Rabbit]

Any advice out there on where to find hair for the tail and mane?

I did that long ago with the white repainted Thunderbolt. Mine is very plasticky due to the cheap hair that I used. You can try the health sections of Target and the like for clip-on hair pieces (falls?) in a variety of colours. They are kind of pricey, but you wouldn't need much for one project. If you have the time you can troll the local thrift stores, especially around Halloween, for wigs. I have a loverly long human-hair wig that I bought for a song one time and once someone donated a bevy of dolls wigs in various sizes.

Love to see it when you are done!!


The Hare-piece Rabbit

[Buffanatic]

BEAR! I've got a box of Thunderbolts in pieces I'm going to restore...I need a white Andalusian for my custom Ramirez I'm working on!

How did you get your horse all the way apart without it self-destructing? How come Gorilla glue and not styrene glue? Durham water putty "Rocks" (pun definetely intended) and your idea is great.
Tell me more,.......PLEEEEZE?
:D
FYI, if anybody wants REAL horsehair, try Tandy Leather on the web. I bought a whole tail from them once for crafting......:D :google

[Gruff Old Bear]

My project is going to be interrupted when I go on vacation next week. Right now, the first of my four Thunderbolts is split & stuffed.

The horse was already coming apart, so I just had to help the rest along. I used Golden West Super Solvent from my hobby store, which is made to loosen CA cement. Whatever glue Marx used, it came apart after a few minutes.

I started with Durham's because it's a lot cheaper than what I'll be using for the rest -- Magic Sculpt -- and that horse holds plenty. The Durham's isn't real crazy about the styrene; if I tried I could probably pop it out and when I do horse #2 I'll rough up the interior first with sandpaper.

The Durham's filling is concave. It flares up at the edges so the CA glue I'll use to reattach the seams has something to grip; but in the center there's about 1/2" of space, because Gorilla Glue expands. I plan to place a series of spheres of Magic Sculpt in key contact points. MS is a two-part epoxy and it bonds at a molecular level. The gorilla glue will fill any gaps left over.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i24/Gruff_Old_Bear/Horse%20Project/Horse_2.jpg

This horse is never coming apart. :D But actually I want the supertight bond so that I can do some dremeling and resurfacing over the seams. At some point I'll probably want to dremel away the mane to make way for a hair one, but that may not be until a later horse.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i24/Gruff_Old_Bear/Horse%20Project/Horse_1.jpg

I have two static Thunderbolts, one with wheels that will soon be gone, and two more with the nodding-twisting head. I plan to use Magic Sculpt to fix those heads in different positions, and sculpt the necks to look solid. There are only three tails amongs the four horses, so I'll be sculpting one tail if I don't do real hair. I'll embed a wire in the Magic Sculpt and have it sticking out the gap where the tail broke off, and use it as an armature -- position the tail differently, maybe swatting flies.

That's my plan, anyway. I'll take more pictures at intervals so I can do a tutorial.

[Mookeylama]

the people i've seen redo their MARX horses usually use mohair for tails/mane. i got some for a few bucks on ebay.

[Gruff Old Bear]

I've moved my horse project to the Customs Gallery. It's coming along.

[Doomhammer]

According to a member on OSW who talked to the big chief of modellersloft (who is in collaboration with DiD on the napoleonic series) we have exciting stuff to come:

"they are planning to release a variety of horses in different poses. They will have a fur finish and real hair mane! Not only that but they will be producing a series of saddles to cover different eras: Napoleonic, Civil War, WW1,WW2 Medieval etc. I asked about the price of them expecting to be blown away but they will be very affordable..."

Let's hope they can pull it off.

[screamingmetal]

That sounds interesting. I guess different poses would be the best way to make a 1/6 horse. Joints always stand out like a sore thumb on horses and other animals. And the ability to chose a saddle is a great solution. DID sounds like they're aware of the collecting community's desire for horses on every level.
I hope they have some planned in very active battle poses!

[sidecollector]

Guys I can custom paint and custom hair Johnny West horses blind folded (I'm in the arts). The problem still remains, the size. It's just not big enough and yes the Dragon horses are, well, nearly Clydesdale size. Just too big. The one I purchased was a complete ebay surprise. It usually goes for $300.00. Just too much. Got it for about $100 even. Someone out there if you're listening make horses (reasonably) and they will come. Come on sculptors do something.